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...Existence?....
    #67037 - 06/26/08 09:43 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

...

"For there is a growing apprehension that existence is a rat-race in a trap: living organisms, including people, are merely tubes which put things into one end and let them out in another; which both keeps them doing it and in the long run wears them out. So, to keep the farce going, the tubes find ways of making new tubes, which also put things in at one end and let them out at the other. At the input end they even develop ganglia of nerves called brains, with eyes and ears, so that they can more easily scrounge around for things to swallow..

As, and when, they get enough to eat, they use up their surplus energy by wiggling in complicated patterns, making all sorts of noises by blowing air in and out of the input hole, and gathering together in groups to fight with other groups of tubes.

In time, the tubes grow such an abundance of attached appliances that they are hardly recognizable as mere tubes, and they manage to do this in a staggering variety of forms.

There is a vague rule not to eat tubes of your own form, but in general there is serious contemplation as to who is going to be the top type of tube.

All this seems marvelously futile, and yet, when you begin to think about it, it begins to be more marvelous than futile. It seems extremely odd."

~Alan Watts, from 'The Book - On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are' 1966.

I LOVE this shit, can you tell he was discovering hallucinogens right after years of Buddhist training?

:biggrin:




~Monk

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67044 - 06/26/08 09:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

what

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67047 - 06/26/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I didnt even read it. I have my own views on existence. Half of which are highly illogical but not impratical.

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67048 - 06/26/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

who,



where,




why?




I dunno...







~Monk

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67050 - 06/26/08 09:53 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Basically the best way to explain existence is that you cant. Need to learn to accept that. I would do anything to know the answers to all my questions.

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67052 - 06/26/08 09:54 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

what you on, send me some :crankey:

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: b0b gnarley]
    #67055 - 06/26/08 09:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

On what, this was written in the mid 60's,

So I'd guess high quality LSD,

I'd be happy to send some, ya got a fax machine?




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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67057 - 06/26/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

:yesnod:

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67061 - 06/26/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67063 - 06/26/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Monk you seem like a smart guy. Have you ever had a natual lsd trip? Its like no visuals though. I had one a few weeks back. Thought myself into a deep confusion about life and existance and everything. And straight up had no limits to where my brain could wander. I started thinking i was talking to god on yahoo messanger to this friend i have. I was thinking that maybe he was god trying to reach me and guide me. Then i thought that maybe my life is completely controled. And he was fake. Idk crazy shit. I cant explain it. Woke up next day completely refreeshed. I was completely sober.

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67072 - 06/26/08 10:00 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

welcome back to the sober life buddy :wink:

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: usg543]
    #67076 - 06/26/08 10:03 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Its almost happening agian. Im getting really emotional and loving. And thinking alot. Wtf is going on.

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67078 - 06/26/08 10:04 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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highasfuck said:
Monk you seem like a smart guy. Have you ever had a natual lsd trip? Its like no visuals though. I had one a few weeks back. Thought myself into a deep confusion about life and existance and everything. And straight up had no limits to where my brain could wander. I started thinking i was talking to god on yahoo messanger to this friend i have. I was thinking that maybe he was god trying to reach me and guide me. Then i thought that maybe my life is completely controled. And he was fake. Idk crazy shit. I cant explain it. Woke up next day completely refreeshed. I was completely sober.




Well, can you fax me some of what YOU have?

Yeah, that sort of thing happens a lot to many people, even those with no prior hallucinogen experience from some that I've spoken to personally.

Sounds almost like a dream. Maybe you could try keeping a dream journal? A pad of paper next to your bed, and when your remember a dream IMMEDIATELY after awaking, you write what you can. Dreams have a tendency to deisappear only minutes after the transition back to consciousness.

Sounds like you feel into sleep with a strange transitory experience and had quite a lucid dream.

You have to enjoy those when they come! They never seem to come enough...




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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67079 - 06/26/08 10:04 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

u need beer

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67082 - 06/26/08 10:07 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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numonk said:
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highasfuck said:
Monk you seem like a smart guy. Have you ever had a natual lsd trip? Its like no visuals though. I had one a few weeks back. Thought myself into a deep confusion about life and existance and everything. And straight up had no limits to where my brain could wander. I started thinking i was talking to god on yahoo messanger to this friend i have. I was thinking that maybe he was god trying to reach me and guide me. Then i thought that maybe my life is completely controled. And he was fake. Idk crazy shit. I cant explain it. Woke up next day completely refreeshed. I was completely sober.




Well, can you fax me some of what YOU have?

Yeah, that sort of thing happens a lot to many people, even those with no prior hallucinogen experience from some that I've spoken to personally.

Sounds almost like a dream. Maybe you could try keeping a dream journal? A pad of paper next to your bed, and when your remember a dream IMMEDIATELY after awaking, you write what you can. Dreams have a tendency to deisappear only minutes after the transition back to consciousness.

Sounds like you feel into sleep with a strange transitory experience and had quite a lucid dream.

You have to enjoy those when they come! They never seem to come enough...




~Monk


No wasnt a dream. Unless everything is a dream... I talked to the friend the next day. My dreams are to intense to log. Ill think about it. Ive had quite a few lucid dreams. but when i relize im dreaming i just go around fucking everyone...:shrug:

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: b0b gnarley]
    #67084 - 06/26/08 10:09 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: mel_lonta_tauda]
    #67088 - 06/26/08 10:10 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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u need beer





Like hell i do. i think its happening agian. Thinking myself into utter confusion. Ugh. I almost like it though. Makes me feel unique, like i have a mind unlike the majority of this stupid cuntry. (pun intended)

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67092 - 06/26/08 10:12 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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highasfuck said:
Quote:

mel_lonta_tauda said:
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b0b gnarley said:
u need beer





Like hell i do. i think its happening agian. Thinking myself into utter confusion. Ugh. I almost like it though. Makes me feel unique, like i have a mind unlike the majority of this stupid cuntry. (pun intended)



Hahaha i knowe that exact feeling, drown it in alcohol. why you staying sober?

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67094 - 06/26/08 10:12 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

:tinfoil:

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67096 - 06/26/08 10:13 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

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but when i relize im dreaming i just go around fucking everyone...:shrug:




like literally?    cause i do it too.    :lol:

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