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...Existence?....
    #67037 - 06/26/08 11:43 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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"For there is a growing apprehension that existence is a rat-race in a trap: living organisms, including people, are merely tubes which put things into one end and let them out in another; which both keeps them doing it and in the long run wears them out. So, to keep the farce going, the tubes find ways of making new tubes, which also put things in at one end and let them out at the other. At the input end they even develop ganglia of nerves called brains, with eyes and ears, so that they can more easily scrounge around for things to swallow..

As, and when, they get enough to eat, they use up their surplus energy by wiggling in complicated patterns, making all sorts of noises by blowing air in and out of the input hole, and gathering together in groups to fight with other groups of tubes.

In time, the tubes grow such an abundance of attached appliances that they are hardly recognizable as mere tubes, and they manage to do this in a staggering variety of forms.

There is a vague rule not to eat tubes of your own form, but in general there is serious contemplation as to who is going to be the top type of tube.

All this seems marvelously futile, and yet, when you begin to think about it, it begins to be more marvelous than futile. It seems extremely odd."

~Alan Watts, from 'The Book - On the Taboo Against Knowing Who You Are' 1966.

I LOVE this shit, can you tell he was discovering hallucinogens right after years of Buddhist training?

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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67044 - 06/26/08 11:48 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67047 - 06/26/08 11:51 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I didnt even read it. I have my own views on existence. Half of which are highly illogical but not impratical.


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67048 - 06/26/08 11:52 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

who,



where,




why?




I dunno...







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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67050 - 06/26/08 11:53 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Basically the best way to explain existence is that you cant. Need to learn to accept that. I would do anything to know the answers to all my questions.


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67052 - 06/26/08 11:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

what you on, send me some :crankey:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: b0b gnarley]
    #67055 - 06/26/08 11:55 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

On what, this was written in the mid 60's,

So I'd guess high quality LSD,

I'd be happy to send some, ya got a fax machine?




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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67057 - 06/26/08 11:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:yesnod:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67061 - 06/26/08 11:57 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)



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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67063 - 06/26/08 11:58 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Monk you seem like a smart guy. Have you ever had a natual lsd trip? Its like no visuals though. I had one a few weeks back. Thought myself into a deep confusion about life and existance and everything. And straight up had no limits to where my brain could wander. I started thinking i was talking to god on yahoo messanger to this friend i have. I was thinking that maybe he was god trying to reach me and guide me. Then i thought that maybe my life is completely controled. And he was fake. Idk crazy shit. I cant explain it. Woke up next day completely refreeshed. I was completely sober.


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67072 - 06/27/08 12:00 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

welcome back to the sober life buddy :wink:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: usg543]
    #67076 - 06/27/08 12:03 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Its almost happening agian. Im getting really emotional and loving. And thinking alot. Wtf is going on.


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67078 - 06/27/08 12:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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highasfuck said:
Monk you seem like a smart guy. Have you ever had a natual lsd trip? Its like no visuals though. I had one a few weeks back. Thought myself into a deep confusion about life and existance and everything. And straight up had no limits to where my brain could wander. I started thinking i was talking to god on yahoo messanger to this friend i have. I was thinking that maybe he was god trying to reach me and guide me. Then i thought that maybe my life is completely controled. And he was fake. Idk crazy shit. I cant explain it. Woke up next day completely refreeshed. I was completely sober.




Well, can you fax me some of what YOU have?

Yeah, that sort of thing happens a lot to many people, even those with no prior hallucinogen experience from some that I've spoken to personally.

Sounds almost like a dream. Maybe you could try keeping a dream journal? A pad of paper next to your bed, and when your remember a dream IMMEDIATELY after awaking, you write what you can. Dreams have a tendency to deisappear only minutes after the transition back to consciousness.

Sounds like you feel into sleep with a strange transitory experience and had quite a lucid dream.

You have to enjoy those when they come! They never seem to come enough...




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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67079 - 06/27/08 12:04 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

u need beer


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67082 - 06/27/08 12:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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numonk said:
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highasfuck said:
Monk you seem like a smart guy. Have you ever had a natual lsd trip? Its like no visuals though. I had one a few weeks back. Thought myself into a deep confusion about life and existance and everything. And straight up had no limits to where my brain could wander. I started thinking i was talking to god on yahoo messanger to this friend i have. I was thinking that maybe he was god trying to reach me and guide me. Then i thought that maybe my life is completely controled. And he was fake. Idk crazy shit. I cant explain it. Woke up next day completely refreeshed. I was completely sober.




Well, can you fax me some of what YOU have?

Yeah, that sort of thing happens a lot to many people, even those with no prior hallucinogen experience from some that I've spoken to personally.

Sounds almost like a dream. Maybe you could try keeping a dream journal? A pad of paper next to your bed, and when your remember a dream IMMEDIATELY after awaking, you write what you can. Dreams have a tendency to deisappear only minutes after the transition back to consciousness.

Sounds like you feel into sleep with a strange transitory experience and had quite a lucid dream.

You have to enjoy those when they come! They never seem to come enough...




~Monk


No wasnt a dream. Unless everything is a dream... I talked to the friend the next day. My dreams are to intense to log. Ill think about it. Ive had quite a few lucid dreams. but when i relize im dreaming i just go around fucking everyone...:shrug:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: b0b gnarley]
    #67084 - 06/27/08 12:09 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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    #67088 - 06/27/08 12:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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u need beer





Like hell i do. i think its happening agian. Thinking myself into utter confusion. Ugh. I almost like it though. Makes me feel unique, like i have a mind unlike the majority of this stupid cuntry. (pun intended)


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67092 - 06/27/08 12:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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mel_lonta_tauda said:
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b0b gnarley said:
u need beer





Like hell i do. i think its happening agian. Thinking myself into utter confusion. Ugh. I almost like it though. Makes me feel unique, like i have a mind unlike the majority of this stupid cuntry. (pun intended)



Hahaha i knowe that exact feeling, drown it in alcohol. why you staying sober?


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67094 - 06/27/08 12:12 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:tinfoil:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67096 - 06/27/08 12:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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but when i relize im dreaming i just go around fucking everyone...:shrug:




like literally?    cause i do it too.    :lol:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: b0b gnarley]
    #67097 - 06/27/08 12:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I wanted to take a day break. To gather my thoughts. Idk. I didnt really have anything anyways.


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    #67101 - 06/27/08 12:14 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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but when i relize im dreaming i just go around fucking everyone...:shrug:




like literally?    cause i do it too.    :lol:


haha word. I mean why try to enlighten yourself when you could fulfill ever sex fantasy you could imagine?


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67103 - 06/27/08 12:15 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i remember this one time a few years ago where i banged carmen electra on the front seat of a school bus.  :rofl:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67106 - 06/27/08 12:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Don't be ashamed of that feeling, it's a feeling you should embrace, just don't make any rash decisions as a result. If it means something important to you then don't treat in a negative or positive manner.

Meditate. Think in absence of temporal things, and if nothing with your feeling changes, embrace it! It sounds an awful lot like 'Nirvana', or 'Zen', the ego-loss with lapse of temporal reference.

Maybe read the book this post was based on. It really is a beautiful bridge between eastern and western thought on reality.




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    #67108 - 06/27/08 12:16 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

hahaha ive fucked manya teachers back in the day. Some random dream girls. Maybe i caught a glimpse of them during a they day and my brain liked them so it saved there image :shrug:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67109 - 06/27/08 12:17 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i meditate daily.  it helps keep my head on straight.    usually right after i smoke bud cause it helps keep my mind concentrated.  i've studied conscious dreaming now for about 3-4 years


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: numonk]
    #67113 - 06/27/08 12:18 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Im just sitting here staring at the screen letting my fingers move whilst my thoughts are spread out on a plate gathering in information and ideas from everywere. I have no idea whats going on. I dont want to move. But i want to go everywere. Someone must have slipped some RCs into my coke.


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67117 - 06/27/08 12:21 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

masterbate, itd probably be fun in that state of mind


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    #67123 - 06/27/08 12:24 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Not horny what so ever.:boobs:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67125 - 06/27/08 12:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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    #67133 - 06/27/08 12:27 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:ass2mouth:


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67134 - 06/27/08 12:29 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:pimpslap:
where the weed at, jebus


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    #67135 - 06/27/08 12:31 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

do you ever sit in the same position for the longest time, and just stare at one little spec on the wall until you become all tranced out?  but a million thoughts could be racing through your head at once. and once you come out of it, you feel so rejuvinated and refreshed?


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Re: ...Existence?.... [Re: highasfuck]
    #67136 - 06/27/08 12:32 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Ego-loss is a beautiful thing, it represents the entirety of what we are, and have been, since before you/I/us were born and what will be after we die.

Religion and policy stay the same, until they don't. But the entirety of experience, and the flow of this universe, does not.

Beautiful.




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    #67141 - 06/27/08 12:35 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yea its a little like that right now.

Monk,
Yea you could say its ego loss, i look at it more as my head has been split open and thoughts are aloud to just pour in. And at the same time while the thoughs fill up my mind my ego and bad thoughts exit.


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    #67142 - 06/27/08 12:36 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

:thumbup:




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