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CFL vs. HPS for veg?
    #659265 - 02/17/13 01:28 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looking for some input on what would be best for vegging.
Right now I have a 1-month old plant that was just recently tied down to start this training:


Growth has been pretty slow, and I'm broke so I can't afford to get another MH bulb right now, vegging under 52 watts of 6500K CFL.
Should I just step up the wattage for the CFLs (Which I have plenty of, it's just a pain in the ass the rig up.) or would it be better to just veg under the 400w HPS I have?


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659272 - 02/17/13 04:18 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Just veg under the HPS.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #659281 - 02/17/13 05:11 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear. :thumbup:
Since it's so young, should I dim to 50% or will the full 400 be fine for it?


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659282 - 02/17/13 05:14 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Full strength.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659291 - 02/17/13 11:07 AM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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resincoatedlungs said:
Looking for some input on what would be best for vegging.
Right now I have a 1-month old plant that was just recently tied down to start this training:


Growth has been pretty slow, and I'm broke so I can't afford to get another MH bulb right now, vegging under 52 watts of 6500K CFL.
Should I just step up the wattage for the CFLs (Which I have plenty of, it's just a pain in the ass the rig up.) or would it be better to just veg under the 400w HPS I have?









That is what Im tring to do under cfls looks good but slow one good thing no stretching. There are soo bushy


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs] * 1
    #659310 - 02/17/13 03:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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resincoatedlungs said:
Looking for some input on what would be best for vegging.
Right now I have a 1-month old plant that was just recently tied down to start this training:


Growth has been pretty slow, and I'm broke so I can't afford to get another MH bulb right now, vegging under 52 watts of 6500K CFL.
Should I just step up the wattage for the CFLs (Which I have plenty of, it's just a pain in the ass the rig up.) or would it be better to just veg under the 400w HPS I have?




There is never a time when cfl's are better then HID.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: Magash]
    #659339 - 02/17/13 08:29 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Good to know, I didn't know if the stretch from using HPS to veg would be enough to justify the 6500K CFL.

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That is what Im tring to do under cfls looks good but slow one good thing no stretching. There are soo bushy



How old are those?


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659342 - 02/17/13 08:52 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I think 42 day old just took some clones going to start flowering soon.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #659343 - 02/17/13 09:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Why flower so young?


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659344 - 02/17/13 09:05 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

y not How old do you think they should be?


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #659345 - 02/17/13 09:09 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:shrug:
I planned on taking clones at around 2 months, vegging for at least 2 months, probably closer to 3. But I also only have 1 plant so I'm trying to get enough to last me until the clones are ready to flower.

The 5-gallon pot I'm using is has a 37-inch circumference, so I'm shooting for a three-footer after it's all said and done.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659357 - 02/17/13 11:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I took some clones two days ago I hope they root. So I cam flower the moms and veg  the new clones.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659477 - 02/18/13 04:03 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

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I planned on taking clones at around 2 months, vegging for at least 2 months, probably closer to 3. But I also only have 1 plant so I'm trying to get enough to last me until the clones are ready to flower.

The 5-gallon pot I'm using is has a 37-inch circumference, so I'm shooting for a three-footer after it's all said and done.




3 feet? Tall? 3 months is a long ass veg time unless you're trying to grow a tree.  I mean, you'll get a giant plant, but it'll be a bitch to keep trained, AND you're looking at a 180+ day grow (and that's optimistic) after you get through flowering.  30 day veg is quite adequate, 60 days, your plant is gonna be 6-7 feet tall (untrained), 90 days, well, you better be using an HID light just to penetrate the canopy!


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #659479 - 02/18/13 04:04 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Not to mention that a 5-gallon pot isn't big enough for a 90 day veg; it'll get root bound.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #659484 - 02/18/13 04:32 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

So you think 30 days of veg is good ?


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #659485 - 02/18/13 04:40 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

Looking back on notes from my last (first) grow, I doubt I would've went for 3 months, but I get what you mean.
My first grow had a 3-foot tall plant, vegged for JUST under 60 days using CFL, and the buckets were less than 2 gallons each.

I had plenty of problems, but ended up with a little over 2 oz. of great bud.
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/645972/page/1

After making a LOT of improvements, (FFOF, FF Trio soil nutes, LST unstead of just letting it grow, bigger soil container, breeder seeds instead of mexi-brick.) I feel like getting another 3-foot (Or taller.) plant should be no problem, especially while tying down. And yeah I wouldn't even attempt to flower it if I wasn't using HPS.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659488 - 02/18/13 05:00 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

I veg 30 days in 3 gallon smart pots and my plants are definitely bigger than 3 feet. 
Now that you'll be causing your plant less stress, and fulfilling its needs better, yours will be bigger with a shorter veg.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: 81renaissance]
    #659490 - 02/18/13 05:10 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

:thumbup:
Gotcha.
How much can I expect it to put on during the stretch when the switch to flower comes?
And at the risk of going off-topic, when I moved it into the HPS area, I saw two roots sticking out about 3 inches from the bottom of the bucket. Will these be a problem? I thought if the roots got light it could be a fairly serious issue for the whole plant.


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Re: CFL vs. HPS for veg? [Re: resincoatedlungs]
    #659499 - 02/18/13 06:59 PM (3 years, 9 months ago)

It'll double in size after the switch.

With regard to your second question, the exposed roots will die, but the rest of the plant will be fine.


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