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Legal weed in the States * 1
    #644421 - 11/06/12 09:53 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Washington and Colorado: YES! :awesome:

Oregon: No! :crankey:


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644426 - 11/06/12 09:56 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Two steps forward, one step back.
That's life I guess.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Stoneth] * 1
    #644427 - 11/06/12 09:59 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I could have told you that Oregon wasn't gonna pass it.  They wouldn't even pass dispensaries.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Stoneth] * 3
    #644428 - 11/06/12 09:59 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Life plans now include moving to Colorado.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Lucid] * 2
    #644429 - 11/06/12 10:00 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I'm still hopeful that California will pull through in 2014 if they get their shit together.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644430 - 11/06/12 10:06 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

really really awesome, may the domino effect begin!


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Manitou]
    #644431 - 11/06/12 10:07 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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really really awesome, may the domino effect begin!





bring that shit to canada


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: P-O]
    #644432 - 11/06/12 10:11 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

We'll get it legalized in British Columbia.

Sorry, offer not valid in Ontario.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644434 - 11/06/12 10:18 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Yer a Canuck andy?


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644438 - 11/06/12 10:26 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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We'll get it legalized in British Columbia.

Sorry, offer not valid in Ontario.




Manitoba better follow :crankey:


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #644439 - 11/06/12 10:28 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Yer a Canuck andy?



My parents are, I was born here.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644444 - 11/06/12 10:35 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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I'm still hopeful that California will pull through in 2014 if they get their shit together.



California is a tough one..Simply because of the cartels and that whole ordeal.

I expect more states to follow suit. Maybe not with full legalization but some decriminalization and/or medical.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644446 - 11/06/12 10:40 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

So what are the full implications of this? How will it be regulated?


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644447 - 11/06/12 10:40 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

This is awesome, should be a huge boost for both states economies!!


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: drawde]
    #644448 - 11/06/12 10:41 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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So what are the full implications of this? How will it be regulated?



I think that is left to be worked out.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: drawde]
    #644450 - 11/06/12 10:43 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

imagine it was like "growing marijuana is 100% legal now"


The world would be flooded with weed


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: P-O] * 2
    #644451 - 11/06/12 10:44 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

The world is flooded with weed thats why we need to legalize it. I can go yell out my window and someone will respond with weed, granted the police don't hear.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644459 - 11/06/12 11:09 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

In honor of this glorious victory, I packed a mountain of kief mmmmmm :feelshighman:


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: drawde]
    #644463 - 11/06/12 11:18 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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So what are the full implications of this? How will it be regulated?



the fed saves billions, and makes millions...so what's the problem?


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: DRAGON]
    #644464 - 11/06/12 11:19 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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In honor of this glorious victory, I packed a mountain of kief mmmmmm :feelshighman:



GOD BLESS YA....


THAT IS, UNLESS THAT OFFEND YE'


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644465 - 11/06/12 11:20 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I wonder if california will get a better proposal in 2014, it was so close passing in 2010 maybe they'll write up something a little better?


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: volcomstoner]
    #644468 - 11/06/12 11:35 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

These fucktards here missed the main election of 2012, when more people went to the polls.
Now they get a shitty mid-term election to try again in 2014. :nonono:


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644531 - 11/07/12 10:49 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

congrats colorado and washington!
going to USA next year! :smile: so it should be clear which states I'll visit :smile:
are there any cool places wich are not so famous in the states?
how are the punishments when the cop's find weed in your car?!


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: funnyfart]
    #644535 - 11/07/12 11:10 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Depends on where your at, and how much you have on you.  Each state has its own laws on it.  Crater Lake in Oregon should be checked out.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #644560 - 11/07/12 12:35 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Man, I'm not looking forward to what the federal response to this is going to be. Unless the result of the ADA vs. DEA lawsuit happens in our favor and SOON, I can see the feds pulling some very nasty moves in the next couple of months... :frown:

As for the actual bill itself, I was quite disgusted with it. It isn't really a legalization bill. You can't grow  your own, the taxes imposed are ASTRONOMICAL (3-4 times the taxation rate of ANY substance), and the DUI provision has no real science behind it (making it dangerous for any heavy user or medical patient to legally drive a car).


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Tank333]
    #644561 - 11/07/12 12:44 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Have to start somewhere.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644562 - 11/07/12 12:50 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

It should be 100% restriction free, like tomatoes


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644564 - 11/07/12 01:03 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Have to start somewhere.




Yea, but a law that unfairly prosecutes people who simply smoke more than the average person isn't a good place to start at... Nor is taxation at this rate. It will make an ounce of high grade cost $600-700 to the consumer, and that's ONLY if the growers still get a marginally fair price of $2400 a pound for it...


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Tank333]
    #644566 - 11/07/12 01:13 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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The measure in Washington State, Initiative 502, will legalize and regulate the production, possession and distribution of marijuana for residents age 21 and older.
The new law will impose a 25 percent tax rate on marijuana when the grower sells it to the processor, when the processor sells it to the retailer and when the retailer sells it to the customer. The measure could bring in $500 million, a figure analysts dispute.





so it will be taxed 25%, three times?


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Tank333]
    #644569 - 11/07/12 01:26 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

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Have to start somewhere.




Yea, but a law that unfairly prosecutes people who simply smoke more than the average person isn't a good place to start at... Nor is taxation at this rate. It will make an ounce of high grade cost $600-700 to the consumer, and that's ONLY if the growers still get a marginally fair price of $2400 a pound for it...



Believe me I agree. But I think these laws are pointed in the direction of industrialization of marijuana so they had to address some of those things.

And to have those people on the border of okaying its use or not they had to address some of those safety issues(or what they consider to be safety concerns)

Those details will be sorted out in the coming months as more states enact laws for the other states to use as a template.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644571 - 11/07/12 01:45 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Definitely a great first step.

I cant believe anyone who can complain right now

"Oh it's legal, but they are taxing the shit out of it." :bitch:


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: P-O]
    #644573 - 11/07/12 02:20 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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It should be 100% restriction free, like tomatoes



It's OK to allow minors access to tomatoes.
It is not OK for minors to have access to weed. :nono:


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644577 - 11/07/12 02:28 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Everyone knows tomatoes are a gateway fruit, leading to harder fruits like pineapples.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: citricacidx] * 1
    #644578 - 11/07/12 02:33 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Everyone knows tomatoes are a gateway fruit, leading to harder fruits like pineapples.



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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: andyistic]
    #644579 - 11/07/12 02:34 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Wow! Washington really got screwed!
The DUI thing has gotten shot down here a few times, thankfully. I feel safe because we can grow. I think the entire industry is gonna take some major heat from the Feds so caregivers will be back in business. Just this year they were implementing new regulations aimed at closing down dispensaries and took the banks away from the MMC's.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644582 - 11/07/12 03:14 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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The world is flooded with weed thats why we need to legalize it. I can go yell out my window and someone will respond with weed, granted the police don't hear.




Very very true.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: King Koopa]
    #644583 - 11/07/12 03:14 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Truer than true


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Stoneth]
    #644729 - 11/08/12 02:26 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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We'll get it legalized in British Columbia.

Sorry, offer not valid in Ontario.



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Two steps forward, one step back.
That's life I guess.



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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Picklez]
    #644757 - 11/08/12 12:24 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Definitely a great first step.

I cant believe anyone who can complain right now

"Oh it's legal, but they are taxing the shit out of it." :bitch:





Really?  Something gets legalized, but in doing so makes it so many, many people are going to be persecuted on different charges, isn't too much of a win. 


To me a step in the right direction is wording the propositions appropriately, and not just voting for it because it says it's decriminalizing or legalizing it.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Hawksresurrection] * 1
    #644762 - 11/08/12 12:53 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Goddamnit, people wanted to be able to go to the store for weed or to simply not be locked up for simple possession and now people are bitching because they can't grow or can't do this or that. I understand where you are coming from but you know the saying give a jackass an inch and he'll take a mile? You sonsabitches are redefining the term.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644765 - 11/08/12 12:55 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

We want it legalized properly.  And Washingtons was not.  I have not to read up on what Colorado's is like.

And to just sit back and not question things is really stupid man.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #644770 - 11/08/12 01:00 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

You know I got to stir the pot...its what I do.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644775 - 11/08/12 01:12 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Knock it off :megacrankey:


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: mhbound]
    #644868 - 11/08/12 08:10 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Goddamnit, people wanted to be able to go to the store for weed or to simply not be locked up for simple possession and now people are bitching because they can't grow or can't do this or that. I understand where you are coming from but you know the saying give a jackass an inch and he'll take a mile? You sonsabitches are redefining the term.




Having outrageous taxation rates that are unreasonable and unwanted is why the Boston Tea Party happened! Fuck your 75% tax on shitty weed!

Secondly, a DUI provision that is based on poor science being put into law is NOT beneficial to ANYONE.



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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Tank333]
    #644882 - 11/08/12 09:15 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Woah buddy, this isn't the dome.  No flaming.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #644885 - 11/08/12 09:24 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: P-O]
    #644903 - 11/08/12 09:50 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Would it have passed if those things were not accounted for? Probably not.

Like I said, those things will be sorted out...I know it sounds redundant but its true, you have to start somewhere. You have to be willing to bend a little, they are...

But I agree...unfortunately it doesn't work like that I don't think.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Lucid]
    #644917 - 11/08/12 10:40 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Life plans now include moving to Colorado.





Yeah I'm moving my family too. How many people do you think will move to col/wash now I'm really curious or will most people just hold out in hopes that there state will legalize?


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: drawde]
    #644918 - 11/08/12 10:45 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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So what are the full implications of this? How will it be regulated?




From what I've been reading small amounts that the fed wouldn't go after anyway are going to be tolerated. I'm also thinking that it will be regulated in a similar way that beer and wine are I hope it's not like liquor just a guess though


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Tank333]
    #644919 - 11/08/12 10:56 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Goddamnit, people wanted to be able to go to the store for weed or to simply not be locked up for simple possession and now people are bitching because they can't grow or can't do this or that. I understand where you are coming from but you know the saying give a jackass an inch and he'll take a mile? You sonsabitches are redefining the term.




Having outrageous taxation rates that are unreasonable and unwanted is why the Boston Tea Party happened! Fuck your 75% tax on shitty weed!

Secondly, a DUI provision that is based on poor science being put into law is NOT beneficial to ANYONE.





True but at least now it can be researched more without as much difficulty.
We are on our way the law is not great but now all the kinks can be ironed out.






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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: ShamaNick]
    #644936 - 11/09/12 01:47 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

At least somebody understands me. Hahaha

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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #644962 - 11/09/12 07:45 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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We want it legalized properly.  And Washingtons was not.  I have not to read up on what Colorado's is like.

And to just sit back and not question things is really stupid man.




This is beautifully said. I'm moving to Washington in less than a week (has nothing to do with the legalization), and being a medical patient, I'm definitely stressed about the DUI laws. I definitely smoke more than the average smoker, and I will most definitely have more than "5 nanograms" in my system....at all times. I'll just have to see how it plays out. Yes, it is amazing that they legalized it, but it ALSO sucks that the fine print that so many people ignored is going to ultimately fuck us


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: TOOLOGY719]
    #644964 - 11/09/12 07:57 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

I dont see how it "ultimately fucks us."

The only thing I see these reforms as, are steps in the right direction.

Things like this take time to iron out and to come up with all the details of how the system will work

Baby steps.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: ShamaNick]
    #644971 - 11/09/12 09:04 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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Goddamnit, people wanted to be able to go to the store for weed or to simply not be locked up for simple possession and now people are bitching because they can't grow or can't do this or that. I understand where you are coming from but you know the saying give a jackass an inch and he'll take a mile? You sonsabitches are redefining the term.




Having outrageous taxation rates that are unreasonable and unwanted is why the Boston Tea Party happened! Fuck your 75% tax on shitty weed!

Secondly, a DUI provision that is based on poor science being put into law is NOT beneficial to ANYONE.








True but at least now it can be researched more without as much difficulty.
We are on our way the law is not great but now all the kinks can be ironed out.





Actually, this law does 100% of NOTHING to advance the reasearch on marijuana. That is up to the DEA, and that lawsuit has yet to have an outcome.  The DEA's cyclical arguement that there isn't enough research on marijuana to reschedule it yet it's a schedule 1 drug so it can't be researched has impeded the research on it for decades.

It is NOT fair to anyone to have innocent people thrown in jail and given automatic felonies, just to "iron the kinks out" of some legislature!!! Get it right BEFORE you pass the damn thing!


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Tank333]
    #645082 - 11/09/12 09:16 PM (6 years, 9 months ago)

Well, I gotta be the first to admit there are at least SOME good short-term side effects from this law's passage. 220 Misdemeanor Marijuana cases dismissed in King and Pierce county.

Good for Satterburg and Lindquist. Boo for uptight ass Jack Driscoll!


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Tank333]
    #645104 - 11/10/12 02:08 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

DUI isnt a felony buddy.


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Re: Legal weed in the States [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #645137 - 11/10/12 11:21 AM (6 years, 9 months ago)

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DUI isnt a felony buddy.




After looking that up, you're right. My bad. It's a gross misdemeanor. Not a felony charge till you've got multiple priors...

Fuck, I feel a bit foolish now... lol


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