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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61189 - 06/19/08 01:17 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

yeah for a lot of video/audio/photo editing type stuff i know mac is the way to go. but i don't do any of that stuff. i just use it for the net, music, and games. and i need the games. so i just can't use a mac. if they sucessfully ported all of my favorite games to mac, i would consider it. until then, windows platform games still hold the market.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #61190 - 06/19/08 01:17 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I used to be AMD only when I built my own PCs, but lately their chips have been lagging behind Intel pretty bad. They used to be the most bang for the buck, but not anymore.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61192 - 06/19/08 01:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I've always gone with Intel, even if they are much more expensive.
I never had a problem with their CPU's, other than becoming obsolete so fast.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #61193 - 06/19/08 01:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

True, once Mac has a significant market share, which is growing by the day. Every game will have a Mac port. Right now, most game developers just don't make Mac ports, because of it's relatively low market share.

Check out the Mac Pro. Comes with dual quad core out of the box, a total of 8 active processors. :cool: Not cheap by any means, but worth it if you are a serious power user and actually use it for work.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61194 - 06/19/08 01:20 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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why not? are you gunna h4x0r me.




Because you're wrong.

OS X is built on a Mach kernel, from the old NeXT stuff. The Unix features are in a layer, not the actual kernel. :lecture:


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: slackophage]
    #61196 - 06/19/08 01:30 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

:lecture:

nice


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: slackophage]
    #61199 - 06/19/08 01:35 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Mac OSX is a unix based OS, the fact it uses Mach as a microkernel does not change this fact.


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Edited by beatyou (06/19/08 01:47 PM)


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61229 - 06/19/08 01:49 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Semantics are important in technical discussions.

Didn't mean to come across like a dick, just a pet peeve of mine when people throw out the "It's built on Unix so that makes it more stable!".

Hell, to be really pedantic (Free/Net/Open)BSD isn't even Unix. :nerd:


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: slackophage]
    #61233 - 06/19/08 01:52 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

From a purist point of view, you are right. Most of those are hybrids of Unix? Including Mac OSX


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: slackophage]
    #61236 - 06/19/08 01:53 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

My PC was built on a hard-wood table, so that makes it more stable!


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61238 - 06/19/08 01:54 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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True, once Mac has a significant market share, which is growing by the day. Every game will have a Mac port. Right now, most game developers just don't make Mac ports, because of it's relatively low market share.

Check out the Mac Pro. Comes with dual quad core out of the box, a total of 8 active processors. :cool: Not cheap by any means, but worth it if you are a serious power user and actually use it for work.

http://www.apple.com/macpro/




What I use.  Best computer I have ever owned.  As stupid as the commercials are they have a point, Macs are plain and simple more user friendly.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: dfernandez90]
    #61241 - 06/19/08 01:57 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Yea i hate the mac vs pc commercials. they seem to be working though haha


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61245 - 06/19/08 02:08 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Closest they can claim is "Unix-Like", this snippet from NetBSD's site sums it up well:

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About the UNIX trademark
If something looks like a duck, walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, what is it?

The answer, of course, depends on whether or not the name `duck' is a trademark! If it is, then the closest that something can get, without permission of the owner of the trademark, is `duck-like.'

`UNIX' is a trademark of The Open Group, and NetBSD has not been branded with that trademark. Therefore, NetBSD is not UNIX. We refer to it as `UNIX-like' or `UN*X-like.'





OS X is a fucking awesome mix of the Mach and BSD stuff. But the BSD layer doesn't really make it as stable as a lot of people tout, since most of that code is in the Mach side of things.

The BSD layer more allows OS X to leverage existing *nix functionality. Some stability comes from here (pthreads, file system drivers, etc), but mostly it opened the door for the metric shit-ton of *nix apps to be compatible, the Unix-like security it inherited wasn't bad either.

I'm done being a nerd now, shouldn't be using my brain this much away from work!


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: slackophage]
    #61292 - 06/19/08 02:42 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I hate when people use stability as a reason a Mac is better than a windows box.

My windows machine has been running without a problem since I built it.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61294 - 06/19/08 02:45 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

"My XP virtual machine actuallys runs FASTER than I have ever seen XP run on its own hardware." XP doesn't have its own hardware. Lol.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: oxalic32]
    #61319 - 06/19/08 03:14 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Meant a box that just runs XP. :bucktoothfattygangsta:

VMware Fusion ftw

I like running VMware on Linux servers as well. A real cost cutter. Get a quad core server, and dedicated each proc. to it's own VM. Great stuffs.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61384 - 06/19/08 04:26 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

Thats my point. If XP had its own hardware things would be entirely different. Or if Mac had real compatibility like PCs do.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: oxalic32]
    #61396 - 06/19/08 04:39 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

I bought a Mac book at the same time my friend get his new PC. Since January 2007, I never had a slow in my Mac and my friend already formated his PC twice and it's still slow. I'm doing 2d graphic and the best thing I bought ever it was my Mac !

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Re: PC or Mac [Re: oxalic32]
    #61402 - 06/19/08 05:07 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

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Thats my point. If XP had its own hardware things would be entirely different. Or if Mac had real compatibility like PCs do.




I've never had a compatibility issue. I've plugged all sorts of weird devices into my mac and they have worked. Even some funky bluetooth headphones a buddy had me try, my bluetooth phone works perfect too, hardly use it though. just to transfer pics.

And as far as software goes, that's where Mac really excels. There is a Mac equivalent for any piece of Windows software, usually much better and probably open source.


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Re: PC or Mac [Re: beatyou]
    #61762 - 06/19/08 10:51 PM (11 years, 4 months ago)

iMac 20" now. 2ghz duo/2gb/500gb/x1800. gonna buy a 24" really soon.


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