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 growmari
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 Cold Stress ? PH problem ? *DELETED* 
#611393 - 03/03/12 01:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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MushrooMan420
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Re: Cold Stress ? [Re: growmari]
#611397 - 03/03/12 01:36 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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21c isn't too cold its only when its below 15c will you see growth almost stop.
The leaves you are describing sound like a nutrient issue. Likely Nitrogen inefficiency and/or potassium inefficiency. Pictures would help..
For more help you should fill this out:
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1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
2. How old are your plants?
3. How tall are your plants?
4. What size containers are they planted in?
5. What is your soil mix?
6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
7. What is the pH of your water?
8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
11. How close are your lights to the plants?
12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
14. What is the pH of the soil?
15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
16. How much experience do you have growing?
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What he said. And what the hell is a hitter.
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growmari
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Re: Cold Stress ? [Re: growmari] 1
#611403 - 03/03/12 02:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Time to transplant! The need more soil and more nutrients. They don't look over watered to me.
Get them into bigger pots and I bet they'll start to take off again.
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Re: Cold Stress ? *DELETED* [Re: growmari]
#611405 - 03/03/12 03:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Cold Stress ? [Re: growmari]
#611406 - 03/03/12 03:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You can definitely give them a small dose of fertilizer. Take your pH down to 6.8 as well.
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MushrooMan420
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As a pointer
If your stuck using that small of a pot indefinitely, you will get better results if you water them 2-3 times a day...just smaller amounts...making sure not to over water.
You treat it like is hydro
Add nutes as required
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Hawksresurrection
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MushrooMan420 said:
As a pointer
If your stuck using that small of a pot indefinitely, you will get better results if you water them 2-3 times a day...just smaller amounts...making sure not to over water.
You treat it like is hydro
Add nutes as required
NOT AT THIS STAGE.
Sorry, don't mean to be a dick. Just want to make sure that he doesn't do that too soon.
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MushrooMan420
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Word. I can see how that was misleading. I meant as advice if he never transplants.
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Hawksresurrection
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Oh I knew, what you were trying to get across. But you can't be to specific on here some time. 
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Re: Cold Stress ? *DELETED* [Re: growmari]
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Mr.Hybrid
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Re: Cold Stress ? [Re: growmari]
#611591 - 03/05/12 04:23 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I lol'd at your typo
"in week 3 of vegetarian"
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Re: Cold Stress ? *DELETED* [Re: Mr.Hybrid]
#611593 - 03/05/12 04:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Cold Stress ? *DELETED* [Re: growmari]
#611697 - 03/06/12 04:46 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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grbrlt
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Re: Cold Stress ? [Re: growmari]
#611702 - 03/06/12 05:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would get your ph in check, your water it is to high and you don't know the soil ph. Also stop fertilizing there should be enough in the soil to get you started. I will try to explain the ph thing, when your ph is off it appears as if you have a deficency but actually your plant can't digest the nutrients correctly giving you the apperance of a deficency, flush your plants with ph balance water like 6.5 or any other flushing product like flora clean, get yourself some Cal-MAG everyone needs Cal-Mag. Flush then wait five six days and give it cal-mag and ph balance water it will take a week or two for the plants to return to normal, also usually if its to cold your plants will purple on leaves and stems.
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Re: Cold Stress ? *DELETED* [Re: grbrlt]
#611735 - 03/06/12 12:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Cold Stress ? [Re: growmari]
#611744 - 03/06/12 01:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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You need to order a pH kit to test what the pH is. Adjust it with lemon juice or baking soda. Baking soda will raise the pH and lemon juice will lower it.
Here's a site you can order any and all the nutrients you need. As well as pH testing kits. But I would recommend getting an electronic meter. You can also get real pH up and down through here as well.
http://www.rvfgardensupply.com/cgi/search.cgi?terms=Nutrients_Fertilizers_and_Supplements::Botanicare&category=Nutrients_Fertilizers_and_Supplements+:+Botanicare
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Harry_Ba11sach
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MushrooMan420 said:
21c isn't too cold its only when its below 15c will you see growth almost stop.
 no dude. 15C is plenty warm still, if growth just stopped at 15C then nobody would EVER yield jack from their outdoor plots.
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MushrooMan420
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You need to order a pH kit to test what the pH is. Adjust it with lemon juice or baking soda. Baking soda will raise the pH and lemon juice will lower it.
Here's a site you can order any and all the nutrients you need. As well as pH testing kits. But I would recommend getting an electronic meter. You can also get real pH up and down through here as well.
I thought your not suppose to use baking soda sine it can cause a harmful concentration of Sodium in your growth solution.
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MushrooMan420
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
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MushrooMan420 said:
21c isn't too cold its only when its below 15c will you see growth almost stop.
no dude. 15C is plenty warm still, if growth just stopped at 15C then nobody would EVER yield jack from their outdoor plots.
True, its probably more like 10C where growth stops...
And Sure outdoor temps can reach 15C during the night...but later in the grow season...
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Hawksresurrection
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I've used baking soda a ton. No problems whatsoever. Since your supposed to flush a couple of times anyways it doesn't hurt. And that's to raise your pH.
I'd prefer lemon juice.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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It's probably more like 0C where growth stops. People grow massive cannabis bushes in Canada, if growth stopped at 10C nobody would ever have weed up there.
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grbrlt
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cal mag is a product from a company called botanicare its basically calcium and magnesium, don't put food products in you water get ph down or ph up they are made for plants they come from General Hydroponics and they have an organic cal mag also but i prefer the botanicare product unless I'm going all organic. Also I think the 21c is about 70f that is a perfect temp.
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MushrooMan420
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
It's probably more like 0C where growth stops. People grow massive cannabis bushes in Canada, if growth stopped at 10C nobody would ever have weed up there.
I would assume that its only grown in southern Canada which probably gets warmer than 15C from spring-summer...but I don't live there so ill take your word that they grow in colder temperatures.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Cold Stress ? [Re: grbrlt]
#611815 - 03/06/12 06:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
grbrlt said:
cal mag is a product from a company called botanicare its basically calcium and magnesium, don't put food products in you water get ph down or ph up they are made for plants they come from General Hydroponics and they have an organic cal mag also but i prefer the botanicare product unless I'm going all organic. Also I think the 21c is about 70f that is a perfect temp.
Putting vinegar or baking soda to adjust pH does not hurt anything. If it's all you have to work with it will be just fine.
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I've grown a few plants in my time outdoors and under the lights since 1985. I bought a bottle of Cal-Mag about 10 years ago cause everybody seemed to love the stuff. Used it one crop didn't make a bit of difference and have never found the need to open the bottle again. Should the soil or hydro nutrient have no shortage of calcium or magnesium adding extra does nothing. Just about every nutrient on the planet sold has more then enough esp the newer formulas that are out nowadays.
In other words Cal Mag is a great product to fix problems but if your adding it to your existing grow program and it's making things grow better or faster then there is a problem with the program to begin with.
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Re: Cold Stress ? PH problem ? *DELETED* [Re: growmari]
#612213 - 03/09/12 04:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Cold Stress ? PH problem ? [Re: growmari]
#612215 - 03/09/12 04:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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growmari said:
There are some fucking time-release ferts on my compost and I just find out right know...
The small white fucking balls !
What should I do ?
Should I repot them or they can make it whit little damage ?!
you didnt know it was in there when you bought it? I would change it before they get any bigger. I had to change my soil once and they did fine but I used water and cleaned all the roots off
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Re: Cold Stress ? PH problem ? *DELETED* [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
#612216 - 03/09/12 05:00 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Cold Stress ? PH problem ? [Re: growmari]
#612217 - 03/09/12 05:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago) |
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Repotting does not double the damage. I transplant all the time. Now If your rinsing all the roots off then yes it can stunt growth for a short period of time, but it's not a big deal.
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budgrowerwannabe
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Repotting does not double the damage. I transplant all the time. Now If your rinsing all the roots off then yes it can stunt growth for a short period of time, but it's not a big deal.
When i rinsed my roots the stunt time was so small i didnt even notice
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