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average male to female from seed bank
    #609548 - 02/16/12 09:34 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

when ordering seeds from a seed bank that are not labeled feminize what is the average male to female ratio. sorry the wording is a little block e this was written using voice to text

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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: ToastChee]
    #609549 - 02/16/12 10:26 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

50/50. Or so close to it that it doesn't matter.


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: RasJeph]
    #609574 - 02/16/12 12:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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50/50. Or so close to it that it doesn't matter.



This. Of course some strains (like DJ Short's F13) are notorious for producing VERY few males (much to the chagrin of people that would like to use an F13 male for breeding:crankey:), but in general, you'll get close to 50/50 with a large enough sample.


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: 81renaissance]
    #610063 - 02/21/12 12:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Is it just a myth or is it true less than optimum growing conditions/plant stress can result in the plant being male?  I hear that a lot but I don't know if there is any truth about it, to me it seems your born (in the seed) either a male or female but then again thats just what i ASSUME, any one know anything on that subject?

Also what about "feminized" seeds is there still a chance they could be males?  or hermis?  I read somewhere on here seeds from hermi plants are considered "feminized" but have a greater chance of turning hermi themselves.  I have 12 plants now can only flower 6 and 6 plants were grown from hermi seeds the other 6 were not, should I focus on the non-hermi spawned plants or what?

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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: bm90191]
    #610085 - 02/21/12 01:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yes stress plays a huge factor when it comes to sex of a plant born from seed.
Also yes to a feminized having the possibility of being male or hermi.
And seeds made with hermi's will most likely produce hermis, tho this isn't always the case.
True feminized seeds aren't made with hermis.
Hermis have both male and female pollen, where CS or STS treated plants only produce female pollen.


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Stoneth]
    #610177 - 02/22/12 05:28 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

you've gotta also remember that the plants only real function in its life is to reproduce. if there were some way growing conditions could change the ratio of males and females it would fuck up the plants reproductive cycle. I feel like that's a genetic dead end. so I dunno. I think sex is already pre coded in the seed.


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: RasJeph]
    #610190 - 02/22/12 10:57 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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if there were some way growing conditions could change the ratio of males and females



But there is, I have posted about it in the past, so has Inverted.
The info is out there and has worked for me.
A total of 5 males in two years, with over 100 seeds popped.
Either the methods work, or I'm one lucky motherfucker.:rofl:


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Stoneth]
    #610193 - 02/22/12 11:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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if there were some way growing conditions could change the ratio of males and females



But there is, I have posted about it in the past, so has Inverted.
The info is out there and has worked for me.
A total of 5 males in two years, with over 100 seeds popped.
Either the methods work, or I'm one lucky motherfucker.:rofl:





link us to these threads

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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: bm90191]
    #610194 - 02/22/12 11:43 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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bm90191 said:
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Stoneth said:
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RasJeph said:
if there were some way growing conditions could change the ratio of males and females



But there is, I have posted about it in the past, so has Inverted.
The info is out there and has worked for me.
A total of 5 males in two years, with over 100 seeds popped.
Either the methods work, or I'm one lucky motherfucker.:rofl:





link us to these threads




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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Miscusi]
    #610197 - 02/22/12 12:39 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hell even Magash has made reference to this.
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The environmental factors that influence gender are: (These are claims by the Dutch Passion Seed Company)

    * a higher nitrogen concentration will give more females.
    * a higher potassium concentration will give more males.
    * a higher humidity will give more females.
    * a lower temperature will give more females.
    * more blue light will give more females.
    * Fewer hours of light will give more females.




http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/353001#353001


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Stoneth]
    #610200 - 02/22/12 01:51 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

DP says this huh?  I will have to Ask Tony @ DP about that, see what he has to say. If they said it or if it hold any truth, He will tell me.

I'll let y'all know what i find out from him.


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Miscusi]
    #610214 - 02/22/12 05:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

And it makes since that they would produce more females than males in most adverse conditions.  1 male can pollinate hundreds to thousands of females in the wild.


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Miscusi]
    #610216 - 02/22/12 05:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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From literature and our own findings it appears that the growth of a male or female plant from seed, except for the predisposition in the gender chromosomes, also depends on various environmental factors. The environmental factors that influence gender are:

• a higher nitrogen concentration will give more females.
• a higher potassium concentration will give more males.
• a higher humidity will give more females.
• a lower temperature will give more females.
• more blue light will give more females.
• Fewer hours of light will give more females.

It is important to start these changes at the three-pairs-of-leaves stage and continue for two or three weeks, before reverting to standard conditions.






http://www.dutch-passion.nl/en/grow-info/feminised-seeds/

Near the bottom of the page.


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Magash]
    #610218 - 02/22/12 05:12 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Magash said:
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From literature and our own findings it appears that the growth of a male or female plant from seed, except for the predisposition in the gender chromosomes, also depends on various environmental factors. The environmental factors that influence gender are:

• a higher nitrogen concentration will give more females.
• a higher potassium concentration will give more males.
• a higher humidity will give more females.
• a lower temperature will give more females.
• more blue light will give more females.
• Fewer hours of light will give more females.

It is important to start these changes at the three-pairs-of-leaves stage and continue for two or three weeks, before reverting to standard conditions.






http://www.dutch-passion.nl/en/grow-info/feminised-seeds/

Near the bottom of the page.




Oh cool.  btw Magash, So you know, I wasn't calling you out on that, I was just curious, I talked to Tony at Dutch Passion, he sent me the same link lol :wink:


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Re: average male to female from seed bank [Re: Miscusi]
    #610344 - 02/23/12 02:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Should have added this before, But adding incase anyone was interested. Here it from the "horses mouth" .


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Re: quick question brother!

    Hi Ricky, http://www.dutch-passion.nl/en/grow-...minised-seeds/

    yes this is true according to our findings, but I would also say that these findings have been as a result of using input from growers at the top of their game with years and years of experience growing and breeding. If you take a less experienced grower and give them these conditions to 'follow' it may be difficult for them to categorically prove a connection as there may be other influencing factors that they are not aware of. For example, if a new grower is systematically over watering and overfeeding the plants...a common misake from rookies....then these findings may not hold to be as accurate.

    give the guys all my best, if any of them want to chat about stuff they can reigster here and start topics in my forum. If I had more time I could register on multiple websites to chat but I just lack the time, Tony




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