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just starting to build room!
    #607349 - 01/29/12 09:07 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

it is in my closet its 5ft long by6ft high and 3ft wide? What kind of lights should i use for the space i have without killing my wallet?

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607355 - 01/29/12 09:20 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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it is in my closet its 5ft long by6ft high and 3ft wide? What kind of lights should i use for the space i have without killing my wallet?





400watt HPS would do fine, need to figure out ventilation if you use anything other than CFL's tho. Closet will get hot quick espcially with a MH or HPS not cooled and un vented.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607361 - 01/29/12 09:28 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

3x5x6
Would be wonderful with two 600 HPSs or a single 1000.
Exhaust is always needed, plants like human need fresh air plain and simple.

If ythe OP went with a 3x3x6 then a 400 would do fine.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Stoneth]
    #607364 - 01/29/12 09:33 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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3x5x6
Would be wonderful with two 600 HPSs or a single 1000.
Exhaust is always needed, plants like human need fresh air plain and simple.

If ythe OP went with a 3x3x6 then a 400 would do fine.




I recommended only 400 because he said he didn't want to hurt his wallet, So i figured the guy wouldn't go and buy vent equip LOL.

He would have a hard enough time keeping 400watt hps cool than 2x600 or a single 1k unit.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607369 - 01/29/12 09:47 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Without an exhaust, there is no need to grow in my opinion.
Unless one planned on using co2, but tha cost is greater than a fan and filter.
And as I said if he wanted a 400, he could make his room smaller to fit better and get better results out of the gate.

A 400 over 15 square foot is a waste.
Just being honest.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Stoneth]
    #607370 - 01/29/12 09:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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Without an exhaust, there is no need to grow in my opinion.
Unless one planned on using co2, but tha cost is greater than a fan and filter.
And as I said if he wanted a 400, he could make his room smaller to fit better and get better results out of the gate.

A 400 over 15 square foot is a waste.
Just being honest.





I agree.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Stoneth]
    #607375 - 01/29/12 09:56 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ok  so i need to build a vent system. IT right by the window plus i have little fan moving air around.I try to keep the door open all the time so they always have fresh air .

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607378 - 01/29/12 09:59 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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ok  so i need to build a vent system. IT right by the window plus i have little fan moving air around.I try to keep the door open all the time so they always have fresh air .





That will work during the light period.. But what about dark period.. cant have any light leaks, especially a open door. 

Just something to think about.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607381 - 01/29/12 10:08 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

yea your right! do you know if i can build one or were to buy the set up?Im not a dumbass  can i build it??

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607382 - 01/29/12 10:12 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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yea your right! do you know if i can build one or were to buy the set up?Im not a dumbass  can i build it??





Id get yourself a grow tent that will fit in that closet and reduce your space a bit. Then depending on the tent , get the correct lighting and run exhaust from it.

Now im not sure what your talking about building?  Get online and order yourself a inline blower of 200CFM + and some flex hose to go with it.

Oh and if you go with HPS light id get a Cool tube and run a intake line threw that and out. That light is going to be your heat factor. you also want ventilation for fresh air intake.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607384 - 01/29/12 10:15 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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ok  so i need to build a vent system. IT right by the window plus i have little fan moving air around.I try to keep the door open all the time so they always have fresh air .



You're gonna want an inline fan and filter.
Going off the size you stated I'd say at least a 6 inch model.
If you want to start off right add an air cooled hood to the mix, you won't be sorry.
Key things to keep in mind when setting up a room.
Exhaust at least 2 to 3 times larger than the cubic foot of the room.  More is better imo.
Light at least 50 watts per square foot again more is generally better.
Smell this is why a filter in needed. Don't want to go stinking up the neighborhood.
Ossulating fan for inside at plant level for air circulation and this will also help the plants build stronger and healthier stems.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607385 - 01/29/12 10:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

ok i need a inlineblower 6in.,flex hoses,to push fresh air in and filter the exaust. right? how much are they Buy the way im growing just for me and the enjoyment of watching them grow .Plus when i smoke i will know all the hard work i put in .

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607387 - 01/29/12 10:36 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Well if you are only growing for yourself, I'd recommend getting or making a tent smaller than the closet in question.
This would mean smaller fan, filter, and light, which would save you a few hundred in over all exspence.
A 2x3x6 room with 400 watts will turn more than enough for a single persons supply.
But it's all in what you want in the end.

An exhaust would go filter in room duct to hood/tube duct to fan.
You would just make or use a hole near the floor for intake, the exhaust fan will pull air in thru this hole as it exhaust heat out of the room.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Stoneth]
    #607389 - 01/29/12 10:50 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

I started out with ten plants seven are still alive they should produce enough for me? should i still make it smaller?

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607394 - 01/29/12 11:27 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

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I started out with ten plants seven are still alive they should produce enough for me? should i still make it smaller?





7 photo plants? hell even 7 autos still a decent harvest.  So Id say yeah.

you could go with 4 or 5 and still be doing good, but if you got 7 healthy females, don't kill any off, that's just wrong.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607415 - 01/30/12 06:19 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

im not killing anything!  there my babies

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607438 - 01/30/12 10:30 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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im not killing anything!  there my babies





Good, when you said is 7 enough or should i make it smaller, it sounded like you were going to get rid of some of them :P


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607472 - 01/30/12 02:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well i started making changes to my grow room this my first time growing indoors so be gental![/url  this is the only fan i have for now.[url=http://files.growery.org/files/g12-005/795963927-Snapshot_20120130_15.jpg][image]http://www.growery.org/forums/thumbs/g12-005/795963927-thumb_Snapshot_20120130_15.jpg[/image] I just transplanted!! this is a thermometer its reading like 80?

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607476 - 01/30/12 03:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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well i started making changes to my grow room this my first time growing indoors so be gental![/url  this is the only fan i have for now.[url=http://files.growery.org/files/g12-005/795963927-Snapshot_20120130_15.jpg][image]http://www.growery.org/forums/thumbs/g12-005/795963927-thumb_Snapshot_20120130_<a href="https://files.growery.org/files/g12-005/795964066-Snapshot_20120130_14.jpg" target="_blank">15.jpg[/image]</a> I just transplanted!! this is a thermometer its reading like 80?




I don't like my soil temp to exceed 75 and room temp 79.

I keep my grow room at 66-75 and my soil temps stay about 70-75


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607480 - 01/30/12 03:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well the soil and room are around 80 I need to get a better thermostat. I think I should bring it down a little huh?

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607483 - 01/30/12 03:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I started out with ten plants seven are still alive they should produce enough for me? should i still make it smaller?



Seven plants, would fit nicely in a 3x3x6 tent.
Panda film is cheap.
An a 400 would most likely grow more than enough for you.
Then you could get away with a 4 inch fan/filter.
A set up like that is much easier to keep cool.

Later with more experience under your belt, you could upgrade to something along these lines, or bigger if you feel the need.
A 600 watt with 6 inch fan/filter would turn some insane yields, but controlling temps can be a bitch at times.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Stoneth]
    #607486 - 01/30/12 03:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



You need to choose your favorite of those three and kill the other two or at least attempt to transplant. I know it's going to be hard to choose, but those three will NOT all survive to harvest that close together and if even just two of them survive they'll both be competing with each other and definitely harm your overall yield.

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Oh and if you go with HPS light id get a Cool tube and run a intake line threw that and out. That light is going to be your heat factor. you also want ventilation for fresh air intake.





Cool tubes are the worst.  Just buy a standard sealed reflector and you'll get twice as much light efficiency for your plants and only a very slight decrease in your cooling power.

Also, if he's running a 6" or even a 4" vortex in a 3' x 3' tent then he can definitely save his money and just use passive intake. All tents will have flaps at the bottom you can open and they will more than do the trick for fresh air.

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An exhaust would go filter in room duct to hood/tube duct to fan.





The most efficient way (in terms of minimizing chances of odor leaks) is Filter --> Fan --> Ducting --> Reflector --> Ducting outside.  This way if there are any leaks it ends up blowing filtered air back INTO the room due to the positive pressure in the ducting. With your setup it'll be pulling unfiltered air from the room into the ducting before being exhausted outside because you're pulling negative pressure in the duct.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #607490 - 01/30/12 04:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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An exhaust would go filter in room duct to hood/tube duct to fan.





The most efficient way (in terms of minimizing chances of odor leaks) is Filter --> Fan --> Ducting --> Reflector --> Ducting outside.  This way if there are any leaks it ends up blowing filtered air back INTO the room due to the positive pressure in the ducting. With your setup it'll be pulling unfiltered air from the room into the ducting before being exhausted outside because you're pulling negative pressure in the duct.



Interesting, I've read that before, but always done it that way.
I believe I modeled my room off of Coda's.
I'd love to test it out, but I can't.
My fan and filter together is 37inches without duct, my room is only 36 inches by 22 inches.
I'm running 600 watts and 6 inch fan/filter with no issues, heat smell, etc...
Thanks for the info tho.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #607500 - 01/30/12 05:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

how can i get them apart without killing them?

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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #607509 - 01/30/12 07:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm not sure you can :shrug:

In your post you said you just transplanted. Does that mean they were separate and you just put them together like that? If so then it should be easy. If they grew like that from seed then I'm not so optimistic....


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #607511 - 01/30/12 07:32 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not sure you can :shrug:

In your post you said you just transplanted. Does that mean they were separate and you just put them together like that? If so then it should be easy. If they grew like that from seed then I'm not so optimistic....





Yea its very difficult to separate them once they've grown that close from seed, roots entangled quick.

I had 5 bag seeds i had started by throwing a handful of seed in the yard and by the time i noticed the sprouts and tried to remove them it was fail,  2 out of the 5 survived because i majorly damaged the roots on the other 3 just trying to get two intact and separate.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607512 - 01/30/12 07:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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are your walls covered in those window shades for cars 0.o  ?

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    #607517 - 01/30/12 07:53 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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are your walls covered in those window shades for cars 0.o  ?




I believe so.. lol


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607519 - 01/30/12 07:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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are your walls covered in those window shades for cars 0.o  ?




I believe so.. lol




huh, all that is shinny doesn't reflect light reflect light efficiently. I wonder how well these work. I guess in a thought experiment your just reperising them while keeping them doing what they where desinged for (if that makes seince) but wouldn't a gallon of paint be easier/cheaper. unless of course you need something you could take down in a hurry leaving no evidence.

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    #607520 - 01/30/12 08:08 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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are your walls covered in those window shades for cars 0.o  ?




I believe so.. lol




huh, all that is shinny doesn't reflect light reflect light efficiently. I wonder how well these work. I guess in a thought experiment your just reperising them while keeping them doing what they where desinged for (if that makes seince) but wouldn't a gallon of paint be easier/cheaper. unless of course you need something you could take down in a hurry leaving no evidence.




Yea flat white paint has a 60-70% reflectivity. as where that shit... doesn't reflect much of anything and what light it does reflect is all over the place.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607522 - 01/30/12 08:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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are your walls covered in those window shades for cars 0.o  ?




I believe so.. lol




huh, all that is shinny doesn't reflect light reflect light efficiently. I wonder how well these work. I guess in a thought experiment your just reperising them while keeping them doing what they where desinged for (if that makes seince) but wouldn't a gallon of paint be easier/cheaper. unless of course you need something you could take down in a hurry leaving no evidence.




Yea flat white paint has a 60-70% reflectivity. as where that shit... doesn't reflect much of anything and what light it does reflect is all over the place.




Just noticed that the plantes where planted in:
a lunch pack of pringles
a 1-3 gallon pot
and probly a hanging pot from somebodes porch?

wow.

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    #607530 - 01/30/12 09:01 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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huh, all that is shinny doesn't reflect light reflect light efficiently. I wonder how well these work. I guess in a thought experiment your just reperising them while keeping them doing what they where desinged for (if that makes seince) but wouldn't a gallon of paint be easier/cheaper. unless of course you need something you could take down in a hurry leaving no evidence.




Yea flat white paint has a 60-70% reflectivity. as where that shit... doesn't reflect much of anything and what light it does reflect is all over the place.





Actually shiny DOES mean it's reflecting light. That's literally the text book definition of something being shiny.  Things that aren't shiny can still reflect (ie, flat white paint actually has a reflectivity efficiency of >90%) but basically all that is silver will reflect a vast majority of the light. 

Additionally, the scattered reflection is ideal and preferred. Granted you'll get a much better (read; even) diffusion from matte white than from a specular silver like that, but it's better than nothing.


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Re: just starting to build room! [Re: mrsippycups]
    #607532 - 01/30/12 09:06 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

thats crazy you new they were in the pringles  they worked good. have kids. I  had some old pots laying around.

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    #607535 - 01/30/12 09:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

thats what they told me at the store today that would work for this project.

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    #607542 - 01/30/12 09:28 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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huh, all that is shinny doesn't reflect light reflect light efficiently. I wonder how well these work. I guess in a thought experiment your just reperising them while keeping them doing what they where desinged for (if that makes seince) but wouldn't a gallon of paint be easier/cheaper. unless of course you need something you could take down in a hurry leaving no evidence.




Yea flat white paint has a 60-70% reflectivity. as where that shit... doesn't reflect much of anything and what light it does reflect is all over the place.





Actually shiny DOES mean it's reflecting light. That's literally the text book definition of something being shiny.  Things that aren't shiny can still reflect (ie, flat white paint actually has a reflectivity efficiency of >90%) but basically all that is silver will reflect a vast majority of the light. 

Additionally, the scattered reflection is ideal and preferred. Granted you'll get a much better (read; even) diffusion from matte white than from a specular silver like that, but it's better than nothing.




every thing reflects light. that how we see the fucker. Infact the only  thing that doesn't reflect light is a black hole and guess what, we can't SEE it. Now efficiency is the key here all I stated in the quote you high son of a bitch.

why do people feel the need to try and find errors in other peoples statements like its achivment points or some shit. (yes irony and hipochismy all around)


and i finished reading your post and feel like an ass. but oh well.

and yes something is better then nothing

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    #607551 - 01/30/12 10:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Calm down homie.  It's not an achievement to correct people, but as a MODERATOR (you may have noticed that) it's my JOB to make sure that we're presenting information with the highest level of accuracy possible.


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    #607565 - 01/30/12 11:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)



YES it is better than nothing, but would you not agree white paint would be better?  You can read all my post, I don't post on any matter I don't know and I don't give false info. I hope thats not how I came across. 

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    #607568 - 01/30/12 11:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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    #607595 - 01/31/12 06:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The maim reason for me coming to this site is to learn. Everyone has to start some were.Im grateful for the help that I already received. And i hope you guys continue too help if needed ( and you know I will!)

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    #607622 - 01/31/12 09:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I'm not sure you can :shrug:

In your post you said you just transplanted. Does that mean they were separate and you just put them together like that? If so then it should be easy. If grew like that from seed then I'm not so optimistic....


No thats how they grew  I know  it sucks I might kill them if I try and brake them up? Any suggestions?

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    #607693 - 01/31/12 05:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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yea your right! do you know if i can build one or were to buy the set up?Im not a dumbass  can i build it??





Id get yourself a grow tent that will fit in that closet and reduce your space a bit. Then depending on the tent , get the correct lighting and run exhaust from it.

Now im not sure what your talking about building?  Get online and order yourself a inline blower of 200CFM + and some flex hose to go with it.

Oh and if you go with HPS light id get a Cool tube and run a intake line threw that and out. That light is going to be your heat factor. you also want ventilation for fresh air intake.


Yea that is what im going to do . I was looking at the one you bought.it looks good i never really knew that they made them.

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    #607694 - 01/31/12 05:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Just let em be man.  I grow 2 per container, granted not from seed, but it can work out all right.


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    #607698 - 01/31/12 05:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Just let em be man.  I grow 2 per container, granted not from seed, but it can work out all right.


ok I didnt want to kill them anyway.im not messing with them. I am haveing a problem with the heat

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    #609390 - 02/14/12 01:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I know I don't have a lot of credit on here but go talk to any body who works in a grow store and there is no such thing as too much light, you could run a 1000 wat easily in that space, I am going to run a 1000 in a smaller space than that.  But like you said its a matter of what damage you want to do to your wallet, you can easily manage the temps in a 1000 watt light with a cool tube and blower and an intake off an ac unit.  Thats my plan, It's also a matter of the pay off do you want 1-2 oz's per plant with a 400 or do you want  4-8 oz per plant with a 1000 (other factors play a role too but lighting is a big one).  If your a legal medicinal grower it will pay for itself and then you have the option to do another run in a bigger space.  IMO the two major things that contribute to yield (aside from technique and nutes and assuming your soil growing) is the Light and the size of the pots 3 gallons will not yield nearly as much as 10 gallon pots.  Just my 2cents.

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    #609493 - 02/15/12 06:18 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

yea thanks i always like to here other peoples opinion  i think im going to put them in 5 gallon buckets

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    #609496 - 02/15/12 06:38 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

yeah thats a good idea, i'm probably using 5 gallons too...might use 3 so I can put an extra plant or two in there gotta take into account whose gonna turn out to be a dude

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    #609644 - 02/17/12 07:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i have 7 now i hope  i can get some girls out of them how soon can you tell?

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    #609647 - 02/17/12 07:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Four to eight weeks depending on strain.


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    #609648 - 02/17/12 07:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ok thanks i have been looking at them everyday but dont have a microscope  do i need one to tell

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    #609654 - 02/17/12 08:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

nope


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    #609746 - 02/18/12 05:45 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ok how can i tell?

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    #609750 - 02/18/12 06:11 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, I'm not trying to be a dick here.  But at the beginning of helping you out I told you to buy a certain book.  That's covered in there extensively.  I take it you didn't take my advice of buying.  That's too bad.



www.google.com
 

Your answer will be there.



I'm more than happy to help answer questions to new growers.  But at the same time expect you to do research on your own.  Were not here to get you through step by step.


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    #609755 - 02/18/12 07:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i did take your advice  i do have it plus i watched all of jorge cervantas movies so i have been doing my research  i think i just like to have alot of different peoples veiws or opinion that all

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    #609758 - 02/18/12 07:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Well then in that book it shows you exactly where to look at on the plant and what to look for.  There aren't any other opinions when it comes to this exact part of growing.  Once you think you see some sex organs.  Take some pictures and well see if we agree with  your findings.


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    #609775 - 02/18/12 11:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

ok i will make sure i get some pic  when i think i see there sex you know i keep my grow a secret  so you guys are the only ones i really  get to talk to and show whats going on

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    #610138 - 02/21/12 07:50 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well i just spent 500 on grow tent and the works  Budget & Beginner Grow Tent Package
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    #610467 - 02/24/12 12:33 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Nope! Pistils=girls ballsacks=boys
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    #611465 - 03/04/12 07:21 AM (12 years, 28 days ago)

i think my set up is working ok till my tent and everything gets here


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    #611495 - 03/04/12 03:08 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

Looks good so far! :thumbup:

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    #611518 - 03/04/12 04:20 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

Im learning thanks to all you guys help. Thanks to everyone that has been helping a noob

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    #611575 - 03/04/12 09:53 PM (12 years, 27 days ago)

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Thanks thought it was cool  too

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