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SOPA in everyones sigs
    #605617 - 01/18/12 01:16 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

You have all been raped by the government


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: T-Rex]
    #605623 - 01/18/12 01:27 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

FucK sopa


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: P-O]
    #605633 - 01/18/12 02:08 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

What the fuck is SOPA?


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Manitou]
    #605652 - 01/18/12 08:52 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)



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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: still beLIEve]
    #605653 - 01/18/12 08:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

whoa

how'd it get in to my signature

this is weird bro


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niteowl said:
See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: still beLIEve]
    #605655 - 01/18/12 09:05 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Admittedly, I didn't do a single thing until today when I woke up to see all this.

Well played Growery. Well played.


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: RasJeph]
    #605659 - 01/18/12 09:44 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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RasJeph said:
Admittedly, I didn't do a single thing until today when I woke up to see all this.

Well played Growery. Well played.




I agree. You know how I feel about the internet. It's the only place we're still free brah.


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"Je pense, donc je suis (I am thinking, therefore I am)." -Rene Descartes

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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #605661 - 01/18/12 10:13 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I still don't get it  :standingby:


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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Manitou]
    #605668 - 01/18/12 10:39 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Gaskelort said:
I still don't get it  :standingby:




tl;dr they're looking to censor the fuck out of us and its gone so far that it is almost a reality.


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Manitou]
    #605671 - 01/18/12 10:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Isn't there a link in the picture that will describe it to you? As someone who doesn't really mess with technology outside of opening ports and things easy as hell I don't have it memorized. But it's a bill that would allow the united states to block websites at the DNS level, how china blocks websites from their populace, if the website contained pirated materials. This is bad for a variety of reasons, such as possibly breaking the internet (both metaphorically and literally) and creating a tool the can carry out censorship.

Disagreement about it stems from a variety of technical and philosophical viewpoints.

There is my viewpoint for example: I'm a pirate. I take what I want, kind of like a honey badger.

There is the anti censorship viewpoint: Censorship is morally wrong because it allows to potential for denial of freedom of speech. Also some people find code to BE speech. So not allowing someone on a website can be further "lawyer-ed" to be a denial of free speech even more than just the original potential denial of free speech.

There are technical disagreements about how it is supposed to be implemented, the method they use to block it at the DNS level would prevent fixes that could possibly be used to prevent something... I "think" it has to do with fake websites imitating websites (I'm not certain though). Regardless I'm not a IT guy so understanding that IT guys say it could fuck up how the internet works, and how they can fix a part of the internet that is currently being abused is enough for me.

And then there is the arguement that piracy isn't really hurting the entertainment industry; entertainment profits are up, not down, proof of losses isn't apparent. Many of the studies that show piracy is killing the world assume eveery single instance of internet piracy results in loss of profits. Ignoring users that try before they buy, have already bought a copy, are just downloading a game to use in an emulator instead of their game system, and others that just plain would not of purchased the product if it wasn't available free.

Example: I'm never ever going to purchase a twilight movie, so even if I downloaded it I'd probably never purchase it in the first place. In fact the only chance there is that I might buy it is if I pirated it and liked it (which I won't do, but it's an example).

/rant explanation.

tl;dr
It's what happens when people that aren't IT guys try to make laws about IT, and then ignore the IT guys saying "hey that's a horrible idea."


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"Je pense, donc je suis (I am thinking, therefore I am)." -Rene Descartes

I am tired of Earth
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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #605674 - 01/18/12 10:59 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I see, thanks you very much for the explainations, you totally made so much more sense than the video...

But I am wondering,if I am not in USA, can I get in trouble for downloading an album for exemple?

Also, I just don't get the title of this thread, SOPA in everyone's signature?

And, why is your gov so fucked in the head with goddamn retarded thangs like this?


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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
--------------------------------------------
For pictures of my weed, go to the Québec Ganja! Thread (Newly updated 20/05/2015)


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Manitou]
    #605675 - 01/18/12 11:03 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Gaskelort said:
I see, thanks you very much for the explainations, you totally made so much more sense than the video...

But I am wondering,if I am not in USA, can I get in trouble for downloading an album for exemple?

Also, I just don't get the title of this thread, SOPA in everyone's signature?

And, why is your gov so fucked in the head with goddamn retarded thangs like this?




http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/13/us-filesharing-extradition-idUSTRE80C15C20120113

This is what governments do.


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: DungenessDank] * 2
    #605677 - 01/18/12 11:08 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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But surely it is clear, given the origin, justification, and function of property rights, that they are applicable only to scarce resources. Were we in a Garden of Eden where land and other goods were in­finitely abundant, there would be no scarcity and, therefore, no need for property rules; property concepts would be meaningless. The idea of conflict, and the idea of rights, would not even arise. For example, your taking my lawnmower would not really deprive me of it if I could conjure up another in the blink of an eye. Lawnmower-taking in these circumstances would not be “theft.” Property rights are not applicable to things of infinite abundance, because there cannot be conflict over such things.

Thus, property rights must have objective, discernible borders, and must be allocated in accordance with the first-occupier home­steading rule. Moreover, property rights can apply only to scarce resources. The problem with IP rights is that the ideal objects pro­tected by IP rights are not scarce; ...




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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Manitou]
    #605686 - 01/18/12 11:26 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Gaskelort said:
I see, thanks you very much for the explainations, you totally made so much more sense than the video...

But I am wondering,if I am not in USA, can I get in trouble for downloading an album for exemple?

Also, I just don't get the title of this thread, SOPA in everyone's signature?

And, why is your gov so fucked in the head with goddamn retarded thangs like this?




We're not the first one to think of this, and this isn't the first time we have tried to break the internet.

In fact I can remember multiple times I saw bills just like this from my days as a /b/tard back in the day. This is just the furthest it's really gotten though.

Austrailia and China both censor their websites (also in Australian pornographic material containing female orgasms is illegal because the government has taken the stance that female ejaculate must be urine).

Wikipedia got it pretty mainstream though, got it in the news yesterday or the day before.

And you "could" get in trouble. Technically Pirating is illegal, and by technically I mean it is.

But most people do it, it's like what it would be like if 90% of the population smoked weed on the street every day. Wtf would the cops do arrest everyone and put them in jail (economic collapse plz?). People get sued, but they target the sources more these days than the college kids downloading songs (unlike a few years back).


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"Je pense, donc je suis (I am thinking, therefore I am)." -Rene Descartes

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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #605689 - 01/18/12 11:36 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

copyright pictures i understand but why we cant we have pictures that we took.


Edited by grod31 (01/18/12 11:37 AM)


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: grod31]
    #605699 - 01/18/12 12:31 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Its temporary on this site mang.


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: RasJeph]
    #605702 - 01/18/12 12:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

oh for fuck sake I deleted all the pictures that were replaced by the blue thang...


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Pour un instant, j'ai respiré très fort
Ça m'a permis de visiter mon corps
Des inconnus vivent en roi chez moi
Moi qui avait accepté leurs lois
J'ai perdu mon temps à gagner du temps
J'ai besoin de me trouver une histoire à me conter
Pour instant j'ai oublié mon nom
Harmonium - Pour un instant
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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: Manitou]
    #605703 - 01/18/12 12:58 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Ouch.


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: DungenessDank]
    #605704 - 01/18/12 01:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

google has a petition going... we only need 4 more sigs to kill SOPA...


sign your life to us


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Re: SOPA in everyones sigs [Re: P-O]
    #605707 - 01/18/12 01:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I don't beg for my basic human rights.


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