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Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax...
    #598961 - 11/29/11 11:50 AM (5 years, 10 days ago)

http://www.doctortipster.com/6952-dutch-researcher-created-a-super-influenza-virus-with-the-potential-to-kill-millions.html

A Dutch researcher has created a virus with the potential to kill half of the planet’s population. Now, researchers and experts in bioterrorism debate whether it is a good idea to publish the virus creation ”recipe”. However, several voices argue that such research should have not happened in the first place.

The virus is a strain of avian influenza H5N1 genetically modified to be extremely contagious. It was created by researcher Ron Fouchier of the Erasmus Medical Center Rotterdam, Netherlands. The work was first presented at a conference dedicated to influenza, that took place in September in Malta.

Avian influenza emerged in Asia about 10 years ago. Since then there were fewer than 600 infection cases reported in humans. On the other hand, Fouchier’s genetically modified strain is extremely contagious and dangerous, killing about 50% of infected patients. The former strain did not represent a global threat, as transmission from human to human is rare. Or, at least, it was before Fouchier genetically modified it.

Fouchier and his team used a pair of ferrets for testing because they react in similar ways as humans, when exposed to the flu virus. Researchers transmitted the deadly virus from one ferret to another, in order to make the virus more adaptable to a new host. After 10 generations, the virus has mutated allowing it to spread through air. The result was that ferrets could get sick just being near another infected animal.

A genetic study showed that new virus strain presented five mutations, and all could be also observed in nature - but only separately, not all five combined. Fouchier’s strain is as contagious as seasonal human influenza, which kills tens of thousands of people, just that, much more lethal.

“I can not think of a pathogenic organism to be more dangerous than this one”, commented Paul Keim, a specialist in microbial genetics who worked for many years with the anthrax bacillus. “I think the anthrax is not at all scary, when compared with this virus” , he added.

Keim is the coordinator of the U.S. National Committee dedicated to biosecurity issues and now he has to make a decision. If Fouchier wants to publish his study detailing how the virus was created, Keim’s and his committee must approve.

Many scientists are concerned about possible negative consequences that could precede the publication of this research. There are many fears regarding bioterrorists that might find useful tips or a whole ’recipe’ to plan biological attacks. Demands are beeing made for the establishment of an international institution to oversee such dangerous research projects.

“It’s just a bad idea for scientists to turn a lethal virus into a lethal and highly contagious virus. And it’s a second bad idea for them to publish how they did it so others can copy it,” believes Dr. Thomas Inglesby, a bioterrorism expert

On the other hand, if the study becomes available for the scientific community, it could allow researchers to ”be prepared” for a potential H5N1 pandemic. Since Fouchier’s study suggests that the risk for this to occur is greater than previously thought. Some researchers believe that banning the paper will leave mankind helpless if the virus naturally mutates and becomes contagious.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Picklez]
    #598972 - 11/29/11 12:35 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

there is some parts of science, humans should not explore....


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: P-O]
    #599003 - 11/29/11 05:12 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

"On the other hand, if the study becomes available for the scientific community, it could allow researchers to ”be prepared” for a potential H5N1 pandemic. Since Fouchier’s study suggests that the risk for this to occur is greater than previously thought. Some researchers believe that banning the paper will leave mankind helpless if the virus naturally mutates and becomes contagious. "

That is the only thing that kind of makes me support it

But yes, it does sound like a very very bad idea.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: P-O] * 1
    #599004 - 11/29/11 05:16 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

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PositiveOutlook said:
there is some parts of science, humans should not explore....




Dumb fucking scientists ...


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Manitou] * 1
    #599005 - 11/29/11 05:20 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

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Gaskelort said:
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PositiveOutlook said:
there is some parts of science, humans should not explore....




Dumb fucking scientists ...




Those scientists are way smarter than you, bub.


Also KP, Anthrax is not a virus. Also, is not the most dangerous contagion known to date. I'm confused about why you put that in the title.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #599008 - 11/29/11 05:29 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

I have no clue what you're talking about, did you read the article? it has nothing to do with anthrax homie

Plus anthrax is a virus that infects bacteria


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #599009 - 11/29/11 05:41 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Quote:

Gaskelort said:
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PositiveOutlook said:
there is some parts of science, humans should not explore....




Dumb fucking scientists ...




Those scientists are way smarter than you, bub.


Also KP, Anthrax is not a virus. Also, is not the most dangerous contagion known to date. I'm confused about why you put that in the title.




Well man imo, anyone trying to create such a thang is DUMB as fuck, knowledge doesnt make you smart, it's what you do with it...


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Manitou]
    #599013 - 11/29/11 05:47 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

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Gaskelort said:
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
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Gaskelort said:
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PositiveOutlook said:
there is some parts of science, humans should not explore....




Dumb fucking scientists ...




Those scientists are way smarter than you, bub.


Also KP, Anthrax is not a virus. Also, is not the most dangerous contagion known to date. I'm confused about why you put that in the title.




Well man imo, anyone trying to create such a thang is DUMB as fuck, knowledge doesnt make you smart, it's what you do with it...



I agree completely.
We already have enough death and disease in the world.:yesnod:


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Stoneth]
    #599015 - 11/29/11 06:21 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

To me this just falls in line with the New World Order. :paranoid:


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Picklez]
    #599016 - 11/29/11 06:59 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

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I have no clue what you're talking about, did you read the article? it has nothing to do with anthrax homie

Plus anthrax is a virus that infects bacteria




The title of this thread mentions anthrax, that's what I'm talking about.  You're right, it has nothing to do with anthrax, so why did you put it in the title? I'm just confuzzled is all.

Anthrax is not a virus either. It's the name of the disease caused by a bacteria. You people.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #599018 - 11/29/11 07:18 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

because if you read the article it compares this to anthrax.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #599045 - 11/29/11 11:51 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
I have no clue what you're talking about, did you read the article? it has nothing to do with anthrax homie

Plus anthrax is a virus that infects bacteria




The title of this thread mentions anthrax, that's what I'm talking about.  You're right, it has nothing to do with anthrax, so why did you put it in the title? I'm just confuzzled is all.

Anthrax is not a virus either. It's the name of the disease caused by a bacteria. You people.





harry where do you work?

any jobs available around there for people with no formal education, but stunning good looks and personality for days?


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
Is a 16 year old guy having sex w/a 16 year old girl a pedophile?
If not, then how is a 30 year old considered a pedophile for doing the same thing?
I think y'all need to look up the definition for pedophile.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: still beLIEve]
    #599070 - 11/30/11 05:30 AM (5 years, 10 days ago)

I have a job for such skills
:awegroove:


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Picklez]
    #599077 - 11/30/11 09:14 AM (5 years, 9 days ago)

Eh, like any tree that is to bear a good amount of fruit, pruning must be done.  A good old fashioned pruning of the humans could do the species, as well as the planet, well in the long run. But that should not be for any human to decide.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: still beLIEve]
    #599145 - 11/30/11 04:36 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

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KillerPicklez said:
I have no clue what you're talking about, did you read the article? it has nothing to do with anthrax homie

Plus anthrax is a virus that infects bacteria




The title of this thread mentions anthrax, that's what I'm talking about.  You're right, it has nothing to do with anthrax, so why did you put it in the title? I'm just confuzzled is all.

Anthrax is not a virus either. It's the name of the disease caused by a bacteria. You people.





harry where do you work?

any jobs available around there for people with no formal education, but stunning good looks and personality for days?





I work at a geoscience firm in Denver.  And unfortunately no, every person in our office has at least a Bachelors degree. I would totally help you get a job if that weren't the case though. If you're thinking about moving out here however, shoot me a :pm: and I can try to gather up a list of good jobs in the area that will base pay more than minimum wage and don't require a degree.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #599153 - 11/30/11 05:43 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

Do you survey? I like surveying.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Tangerines]
    #599156 - 11/30/11 05:50 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

Is that basically land-mapping?


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Picklez]
    #599158 - 11/30/11 06:08 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

Yea, so you know the topography of the terrain.


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Tangerines]
    #599159 - 11/30/11 06:15 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

right on, I have seen people doing it before quite a bit. Never understood how it could be fun. But that's probably from a lack of knowledge on it


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Re: Killer Virus, stronger than Antrax... [Re: Picklez]
    #599160 - 11/30/11 06:19 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

For me, the real fun comes when you see it all on a computer and get to design according to the shape of the land. Different strokes though.

A combination of outside and inside work would be ideal, for me. Change shit up.  Getting paid to stand outside surveying land is not that bad considering there is not much physical aspect besides standing and walking.


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