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Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know **Update**
    #566568 - 06/22/11 04:34 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Hi Guys, I suppose I am in need of advice...

SWIM has asked some interesting questions and though I think I got the answer, I would like someone who is more of an expert to affirm.

Below are pics of SWIM's plants, and swim is a little concerned, germ was in February and here it is in June and well you can see the progress...

The seed variety is UNKNOWN, taken from various sources just basically to hobby grow it like I do tobacco and food.



The look good to me, I told him it is a matter of time not method, from my research I figure a play with the light cycle might help...

UPDATE


I had posted about these before when I was soil growing them, they failed, but not until I got a few (3) decent clones off and put them in the hydro nursery.  I am at week 5 of 12/12 and I just wanted to share a bit.

The Clones were taken in July 20, 2011 and put into rockwool with rooting compound.  Here is a pic of one of the clones:


Let them root and establish until August 30th.
They were in 24/0 with Dyna-Gro Liquid Grow (7-9-5), the system is a 12 head drip system I hand made.

After 6 weeks they were quite bushy and getting tall, by this time I retired the mother plants as a hopeless cause, it was all my fault, but I documented everything to ensure I do not forget history.  Salt and pH were a constant battle in the soil grow, and since the box was inside there was only so much I could do to repair the issue, in the end the girls were failing and I ended their misery.  Though I harvested the hemp fiber, at least I got some twine out of the lanky ladies.

Anyhow, Back to August 30th, I transferred the clones to the grow area, this is an ebb & flow system (hand made) with an 8 bulb fluorescent fixture, Dyna-Pro Liquid Bloom/Bud Blood.  I did not do any photography (regrettably) for the first two weeks, I really should have, it would add the post significantly.

To ease the transition I was leaf feeding 7-7-7 OTC nutes, VERY DILUTED.

I kept the water pH at 5.7 in both systems (still no tester for eC/ppm).

Prior to Day 21:
I have had to top the plants, they took off in the flower room, they started in there at about 10 to 12 inches, day 7 they were at 18, Day 14 they were at 30.  They took off so fast the tops began to burn a little by the time I would get home from work.  I developed a system for water changes (though I am sure it is not new).  I check water level and pH daily, make additions and adjustments as necessary, once every two weeks I do a full flush and water change.  When I flush I clean the air stones and pump, and in the case of the drip system I clean entire pan system and the drippers.

Day 21 (12/12)


This is the only pic I have, again regrettably, but it is exemplary of what is going on all over the 3x3 area.

Day 35 (12/12)
This is present (Tuesday)and I took care to make a bunch of photos and selected a few for this post:
Same bud from last

Top Cola

View of "The Forest"


So I figure I have about 3 weeks left.


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: IhrHase]
    #566616 - 06/22/11 08:00 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

i hate when ppl use SWIM just say your screen name or something


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: Herbalist]
    #566640 - 06/22/11 08:21 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Ummm, Do you have anything constructive to add?


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: IhrHase]
    #566715 - 06/23/11 12:20 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Give me more info of your setup.

But don't play with the light cycle...For vegetative growth you need more nitrogenPK and 18-24 hours of sun light, when they flower 12/12 meaning 12 hours of light and 12 hours of absolutely no light but you can use a green light to go in if you HAVE to at night and you'll give them more of the phosphorous and potassium....

Be a little more specific of your problem...They look good but the yellowing is a sign of nitrogen deficiency. Also, your pH of your growing medium(soil) and water that you use is very important. Marijuana is very resilient but at the same time very sensitive.


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: mhbound]
    #566796 - 06/23/11 01:23 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

The set up is a self watering system known as Earthbox, it uses capillary action to suck water in from the bottom.

You may be right about the N Deficiency.

What is being used is sea kelp at this point for fert. and the N is very low in that, I can add N slowly to the mix but it actually is not yellowing, I have a shitty camera and worse indoor lighting...

The first pics are of flowering, this is why I am suggesting changing the light cycle, the soil is actually basic.  It was tested.

The actual problem is the impatience of the wife, she wants an expert opinion.  I suggested time, they are at 186 cm, which is very tall for indoor growing.  The flowers are throwing hairs, I am really looking for confirmation of my assessment, or a suggestion if my assessment proves inaccurate.

Thanks in advance MHbound


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: IhrHase]
    #566816 - 06/23/11 02:06 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

You are right they aren't yellowing but they are a light green, the new growth that is...So, I guess they aren't deficient yet.

What kind of lights are you using and how long have they been on the 12/12 cycle?

Everything looks fine to me, it takes 2 weeks roughly for the plant to switch to flowering after the light has been switched to 12/12 and after that another couple of weeks until you start seeing bud formation. Any light leaks during the dark period will keep it from flowering.

Just asking questions trying to see where you are.

Your preflowers will turn to bud sites within the first :

Then those bud sites will swell and end up like this:


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: mhbound]
    #567009 - 06/24/11 09:44 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks mhBound,

It has only been a couple days, I am thinking it will be mature by the end of the summer.

Those are pretty pictures you got there :smile:


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: IhrHase]
    #567058 - 06/24/11 04:07 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I don't get how your doing an indoor grow but it says "The Sun". It's obvious their not in a greenhouse so what gives?

I would say this is the reason they are too tall and lanky, but I don't think they are so much flowering, as ready to flower.
That is to say those are just some pre-flowers and those plants are more than ready to put into the 12on 12off light cycle that most strains need to flower.

Just put them under some stronger lighting with a defined 12 hour dark period and you should start seeing some fat buds!!

  Also I recommend using more than sea kelp as that's not generally sold as a plant food but more as a supplement to plant growth. It's really used more on plants that are in your garden, or for foliar feeding. I'm sure you already knew this to some degree but just thought I would point out that even though it is rich in a lot of different nutrients it's really not a balanced fertilizer like many of the more popular types of fertilizers that are more or less designed for this purpose.

Hope any of this helps out.


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: Doc]
    #567192 - 06/25/11 01:58 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't get how your doing an indoor grow but it says "The Sun". It's obvious their not in a greenhouse so what gives?




I live in a state notorious for its Sun... and the window is in full sun exposure almost all day long.

Quote:

I would say this is the reason they are too tall and lanky, but I don't think they are so much flowering, as ready to flower.




I believe that would be my misinformed terminology, they are indeed ready, not actually flowering.

Quote:

Just put them under some stronger lighting with a defined 12 hour dark period and you should start seeing some fat buds!!




That is what I am thinking too

I am agreeing with what you guys are saying as far as ferts are concerned.

Thank you Doc, you are invaluable.


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: IhrHase]
    #567631 - 06/26/11 07:49 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I just think since you've put in this much time and patience to get them to be that big, you might as well try to get the most out of them!  Good luck bro! :biggrin:


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know [Re: Doc]
    #567664 - 06/26/11 10:47 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Doc,

I have the patience of the grave, this was a test run, much like the experiment done which I posted on the sister site Shroomery...

If I knew they would get this big, I probably would have started earlier :smile:...

Thanks man, I will certainly keep posting pics as time goes on...


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know UPDATE [Re: IhrHase]
    #568547 - 06/29/11 11:15 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Ok week one of flipping:

The first set of photos are from two plants, Definitely girls









Ones with hands in pics are unsure (I think Male)





Thoughts?


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know UPDATE [Re: IhrHase]
    #568573 - 06/30/11 12:18 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I think the ones in question are male but I could be wrong...


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know UPDATE [Re: mhbound]
    #568599 - 06/30/11 01:40 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

mhbound said:
I think the ones in question are male but I could be wrong...




I am agreeing, but there is still time, I can wait it out...


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know UPDATE [Re: IhrHase]
    #570190 - 07/06/11 10:17 PM (5 years, 5 months ago)

One of the Maybes showed male...



So I Chopped his ass down!!!!


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know UPDATE II [Re: IhrHase]
    #570864 - 07/09/11 03:59 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Here are some new Photos of the Girls...

There is still one who is suspected of being a boy, I have him away from the girls until I know for sure.



This one is the suspect.


So how am I looking as a newb?


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know UPDATE II [Re: IhrHase]
    #570867 - 07/09/11 04:07 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

Whats your feeding schedule? Those new leaves are either showing a salt buildup or they are hungry, I can't really decide from those pictures.


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know UPDATE II [Re: mhbound]
    #570879 - 07/09/11 05:47 AM (5 years, 5 months ago)

I am spraying 2x a week with a weak flowering fertilizer and watering once every two weeks with a stronger one, think I should cut back?


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know **Update** [Re: IhrHase]
    #590711 - 10/06/11 01:19 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Updated for thos who participated in the discussion


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Re: Indoor/The Sun/Soil/Fuck if I know **Update** [Re: IhrHase]
    #591674 - 10/11/11 07:57 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Another Update

So it is day 42 and things are running along...

I think the one with the tall colas is a longer flowering time that the other two, the hair has not even begun to turn.





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