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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: THEBats]
    #557259 - 05/21/11 04:49 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yea that ladies post was funny haha

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Tangerines]
    #557262 - 05/21/11 05:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

"Psychologically it is a reverse psychology, mind twister. Highly effective. I was under the full belief that Aliens were real, that Aliens created HIV/AIDS. Then once the New World order thing came in; which was strategically implanted to shift the blame from Aliens to the US Government. I thought H1N1 was made by the CIA even; but it's really the KGB. Why? Because of Mission Impossible 2; literally."


I fucking LOL'd

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Harlz]
    #557853 - 05/24/11 09:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He admitted that he was off by a couple of months, and it's actually going to be in October.


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: iStoner]
    #557886 - 05/24/11 02:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well there is now a shit load of homeless, poor people!

Fuckin Religious Lunatics


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: iStoner]
    #558140 - 05/25/11 09:26 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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iStoner said:
He admitted that he was off by a couple of months, and it's actually going to be in October.





no there was always 2 dates

may 21 - judgement
oct 21- apocalypse

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Harlz]
    #558155 - 05/25/11 10:19 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Harlz]
    #558159 - 05/25/11 10:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Harlz said:
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iStoner said:
He admitted that he was off by a couple of months, and it's actually going to be in October.





no there was always 2 dates

may 21 - judgement
oct 21- apocalypse



I am aware, but he still stands by that second date.


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: iStoner]
    #558161 - 05/25/11 10:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Harold Camping = :crazy2:


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: iStoner]
    #558505 - 05/26/11 11:22 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The craziest part of this whole thing is that almost no one will come to question their religion when nothing happens.. They'll just brush it off with some bullshit like it's God's Will that made them look like idiots and move on..




>implying real christian beleived this who actually have read the bible. Taking a read through revelations will show you that it was just a bunch of crack pots who are crazycrazy!



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Harlz said:
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iStoner said:
He admitted that he was off by a couple of months, and it's actually going to be in October.





no there was always 2 dates

may 21 - judgement
oct 21- apocalypse



I am aware, but he still stands by that second date.




Well apparently he is even more unaware of true christian docterene even more than I was already aware of.:shrug:




Maybe I should also mention that religion is anout faith; it isn't about proof. So for any of the people in this thread trying to just do the generic "hey im an athiest, why are you christians so stupid arguement" I'm going to just define faith here.

Merriam Webster definition: b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust.


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #558506 - 05/26/11 11:25 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Blind trust in anything is ignorant.

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: smurf_master]
    #558508 - 05/26/11 11:37 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Blind trust in anything is ignorant.




And acting like you know everything is ignorant.


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #558510 - 05/26/11 11:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

That's the best part. I realize that I don't know anything in the grand scheme of things. That is what separates us.


But faith is a very circular argument. Faith in God is justified by faith in God. In order to accept the argument you must already have accepted it.

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: smurf_master]
    #558511 - 05/26/11 11:54 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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That's the best part. I realize that I don't know anything in the grand scheme of things.




Then you probably shouldn't critique people about something you know nothing about. Do you have any proof there is no god? Do you have any proof at all? no.

In fact all the proof that exists at all (not that i give a shit about it) is pretty much on the side of religion.

So maybe you should realize since you don't know anything, you shouldn't criticize people that choose to believe in something else. It's not interrupting your day at all, so continue disrespecting something i have faith in. I'll be over here being polite and respecting what you have faith in you asshole.


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #558517 - 05/26/11 12:05 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The Bible is equal in all peoples interpretations, so just because one mans interpretation of the bible seems crazy to you, it makes it no less ridiculous than any interpretation anyone else may draw from it.

This perfectly highlights the absurdity in staking any kind of faith in the words of an archaic roman story book.

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #558518 - 05/26/11 12:07 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Well there's a difference between withholding judgement about God and saying one is a christian.  I respect everyone's faith it's just hard to understand commitment to one faith over the other when you study all the world religions.

I can't speak for the OP but I think it's this that most atheists critique.  And there's nothing wrong with critiquing this.  There's also nothing wrong with critiquing and debating the way in which God operates.

Critiquing if God, an entity who created the universe, exists is a moot point however and is purely argued on faith without observation.  But everything else following that creation is fair game imo.

Edited by THEBats (05/26/11 12:08 PM)

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: DungenessDank]
    #558520 - 05/26/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

well considering the bible specifically says that nobody will know.

I'm going to go with the fact anyone claiming to know the time of the christian end of times is going to be full of this.


This is not interpretation, this is reading comprehension.

Quote:

New International Version (©1984)
"Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"So you, too, must keep watch! For you do not know the day or hour of my return.

English Standard Version (©2001)
Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Be on the alert then, for you do not know the day nor the hour.

International Standard Version (©2008)
So keep on watching, because you don't know the day or the hour."

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"So stay awake, because you don't know the day or the hour.

King James Bible
Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man cometh.

American King James Version
Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour wherein the Son of man comes.

American Standard Version
Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour.

Bible in Basic English
Keep watch, then, because you are not certain of the day or of the hour.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Watch ye therefore, because you know not the day nor the hour.

Darby Bible Translation
Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour.

English Revised Version
Watch therefore, for ye know not the day nor the hour.

Webster's Bible Translation
Watch therefore, for ye know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of man cometh.

Weymouth New Testament
"Keep awake therefore; for you know neither the day nor the hour.

World English Bible
Watch therefore, for you don't know the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.

Young's Literal Translation
'Watch therefore, for ye have not known the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man doth come.




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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #558521 - 05/26/11 12:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thebooedocksaint said:
In fact all the proof that exists at all (not that i give a shit about it) is pretty much on the side of religion.





I lol'd

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Thebooedocksaint said:

Maybe I should also mention that religion is anout faith; it isn't about proof. So for any of the people in this thread trying to just do the generic "hey im an athiest, why are you christians so stupid arguement" I'm going to just define faith here.

Merriam Webster definition: b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust.




I just thought it was worth pointing out that just because you define faith and connect it to religion, it clear that having faith in something, however strong, does not force it to be true, or even lend credibility to the concept.

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #558525 - 05/26/11 12:24 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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smurf_master said:
That's the best part. I realize that I don't know anything in the grand scheme of things.




Then you probably shouldn't critique people about something you know nothing about. Do you have any proof there is no god? Do you have any proof at all? no.

In fact all the proof that exists at all (not that i give a shit about it) is pretty much on the side of religion.






:lol: there is more proof that we are "created" by evolution than by a god, and if there WAS a god, he would also have to arise from natural selection and millions of years of slow gradual mutations, but even then, that "god" would have to be from a race of "gods" and then he wouldnt be a "god" would he..

if god made us, who made god?

also, nothing is timeless in the universe everything must obey the laws of physics and science in some way, and the idea of a "god" blatantly disregards science by saying he "emerged from nowhere, but was always there"


and IN FACT, THE BIBLE IS NOT A SOURCE OF EVIDENCE and this has been proven many times, the amount of times the book contradicts itself is baffling

you seem to be arguing for the sake of arguing without an actual sound argument :bonghit:

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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: smurf_master]
    #558527 - 05/26/11 12:26 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Thebooedocksaint said:
In fact all the proof that exists at all (not that i give a shit about it) is pretty much on the side of religion.





I lol'd

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Thebooedocksaint said:

Maybe I should also mention that religion is anout faith; it isn't about proof. So for any of the people in this thread trying to just do the generic "hey im an athiest, why are you christians so stupid arguement" I'm going to just define faith here.

Merriam Webster definition: b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust.




I just thought it was worth pointing out that just because you define faith and connect it to religion, it clear that having faith in something, however strong, does not force it to be true, or even lend credibility to the concept.




I never said it did. If you keep acting as such you're just going to get nig-nored though so I don't have to put up with you in threads.

You still keep being the only person judging my faith. Just because you have faith contrary to mine doesn't mean you have to try to put mine down. I don't put yours down.

Can you not just respect the faith of another person?


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Re: May 21, 2011 [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #558528 - 05/26/11 12:27 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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smurf_master said:
Blind trust in anything is ignorant.




And acting like you know everything is ignorant.





no thats arrogant, ignorant is ignoring evidence, observations and sound theory , kind of like religion


religion is the cause of most wars to date, one prime is example is the dome of the rock

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