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The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution
    #539002 - 03/22/11 06:37 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

I'm starting a new research project.  First, I would like as many sources of information as possible regarding any aspect of this topic.  The REAL gold nuggets here are things like someone admitting that they were either under the influence of or that prior psychedelic experiences aided in the discovery of something new or worthwhile.  As an example Doc Ellis claiming he was under the influence of LSD when he threw a no hitter, crick crediting DNA to his lsd experiences, kesey's One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest being written under the influence of LSD, Albert Hofmann's letter to Steve Jobs about his use of LSD, etc.  There are so many examples of this.  Too many people have had incredible realizations under the influence of psychedelics it's a damn shame they can't step up and credit these remarkable drugs.  Who knows, maybe Phelps was under the influence of LSD the day he won all those medals.  I wish people would come out of the psychedelic closet in this regard.  Imagine, how the world perception of these drugs could change.  I'm sure that the work im thinking about doing has already been done.  I just need to find out where it's at.  I'm looking at this as simply an educational pursuit at this point.  I would LOVE anyone's help.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539005 - 03/22/11 06:44 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

I remember seeing a documentary on maybe discovery. Anyway they had set up a controlled environment where they dosed engineers and scientist and they went into their trips with the worlds problems in mind. I think they had at least 100 patents, more I think, in a short time. I don't know much more info than that, but if it was on discovery it must be pretty easy to find information on.

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539006 - 03/22/11 07:02 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

PSYCHEDELICS, The Uses and Implications of Hallucinogenic Drugs
        edited by Bernard Aaronson and Humphry Osmond, Doubleday & Company 1970.
        Copyright Aaronson and Osmond.

Psychedelic Drugs Reconsidered

The Storming of the Mind, McClelland and Stewart Ltd., ©Robert Hunter 1971.

The Mushrooms of Language
    Henry Munn
        from: Hallucinogens and Shamanism, Michael J. Harner, ed.,
        ©1973, Oxford University Press

Drugs, Rituals and Altered States of Consciousness, Brian M. DuToit, editor. ©1977

Culture and the Individual
    Aldous Huxley
        ©1963 Aldous Huxley, originally appeared in Playboy magazine.
http://www.psychedelic-library.org/huxcultr.htm

The Epilog of The Devils of Loudun
        ©1952 by Aldous Huxley, published 1953 by Harper and Brothers, New York
This looks to be really interesting. 
http://www.psychedelic-library.org/loudun.htm

Utopiates: The Use and Users of LSD-25, American Anthropologist, 67 (1965), 596.

http://www.psychedelic-library.org/

I got all those resources from that psychedelic libraries website above.  Pretty neat place.

What the Dormouse Said:  How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry by John Markoff

Counterculture Kaleidoscope: Musical and Cultural Perspectives on Late Sixties San Francisco by Nadya Zimmerman

The Natural Mind:  A New Way of Looking at Drugs and Higher Consciousness
by Andrew Weil

The Varieties of Religious Experience by William James
hmmmm, mind altering drugs.  alcohol and nitrous oxide.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: DungenessDank]
    #539007 - 03/22/11 07:06 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

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I remember seeing a documentary on maybe discovery. Anyway they had set up a controlled environment where they dosed engineers and scientist and they went into their trips with the worlds problems in mind. I think they had at least 100 patents, more I think, in a short time. I don't know much more info than that, but if it was on discovery it must be pretty easy to find information on.




Ha!  FUnny you should mention that.  I met the guy who was in charge of those studies at the psychedelic conference I attended last year.  It was Jim Fadiman.  In fact, he gave a presentation about that.  He had all of us (probably at least a hundred people) complete surveys about their drug use and their beliefs on psychedelics.  It was a neat thing to participate in since it was really a HUGE gathering of people with similar mindsets to mine on psychedelics.  Anyway, he talked about doing micro-dose sessions of lsd.  I think he was talking about the 25-50 ug range doses.  The subjects were engineering teams that had been struggling with problems and were instructed (as I recall) to work on them in the AM then dose at noon and chill out for a bit, then regroup in their teams to work on teh problems again.  I think he reported some great results.  I need to go dig through all the hand outs they gave us during that one.  OOOOHHHHH!!  shit, maybe i can even find that presentation for you.  it was one of the best ones i went to.  that guy is fucking awesome!


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539008 - 03/22/11 07:06 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)



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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539012 - 03/22/11 07:25 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Awesome man :awehigh:

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539020 - 03/22/11 08:58 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Posting so I remember to contribute later.
Great thread.
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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FRACTALife] * 1
    #539064 - 03/22/11 11:08 PM (13 years, 10 days ago)

Wat about that dude who created the Polymerase chain reaction while under the influence of lsd?

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539103 - 03/23/11 01:39 AM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I've had plenty of great experiences on LSD and Mushrooms that have helped me come to an better understanding of reality. Ironically, cocaine and crystal meth psychosis are where I have my best experiences and learn the most. Even though the come down takes mastery to not be negative.


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You are most likely being mind controlled if you live in the USA. The technology was discovered back in the late 1980's. You can easily see weird towers on government buildings...
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/sparkoflife.htm#mindcontrol

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: BigBudz]
    #539127 - 03/23/11 02:54 AM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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I've had plenty of great experiences on LSD and Mushrooms that have helped me come to an better understanding of reality.




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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: BigBudz]
    #539142 - 03/23/11 06:10 AM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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cocaine and crystal meth psychosis are where I have my best experiences and learn the most.




That explains a lot.


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See, that term pedo gets thrown around a lot.
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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: BigBudz]
    #539160 - 03/23/11 08:30 AM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I'm sick of this fucking faggot mucking up every thread with his retardation.
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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: harri]
    #539176 - 03/23/11 09:12 AM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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Wat about that dude who created the Polymerase chain reaction while under the influence of lsd?



Kary Mullis
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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FRACTALife]
    #539239 - 03/23/11 01:40 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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Wat about that dude who created the Polymerase chain reaction while under the influence of lsd?



Kary Mullis
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THANKS!!!!  I was listening to that video i posted above and they mentioned Crick and Mullis.  I did a search on the name they said but couldn't find him/her.  That's the name i was looking for though.  I didnt know about that person and will research it later today.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #539297 - 03/23/11 04:26 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

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I've had plenty of great experiences on LSD and Mushrooms that have helped me come to an better understanding of reality.




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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: BeekEr]
    #539316 - 03/23/11 05:20 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Awesome!


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: BeekEr]
    #539344 - 03/23/11 06:36 PM (13 years, 9 days ago)

I got the Harvard Psychedelic Club today.  Has anyone read this?  One of my real questions is if I can get to any sort of opinion based on fact on whether or not leary had a positive influence on the world.  It's difficult for me to say now.  On one hand he fucked up the legitimacy of all research into psychedelics for 40-50 years after he left harvard, but on the other hand he turned on SOOOOOOOO many people to psychedelics.  I dont know if i will ever be able to come to a conclusion on that but it'll be fun trying.  This is a book ive been wanting to read for a while now.  can't wait.  Should be done with it by saturday.

Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 
Also, in this thread, don't post unless you have something legitimate to add to this project.  thx! 


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539458 - 03/24/11 12:10 AM (13 years, 9 days ago)

Don't believe me, here is factual evidence as you request.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis
http://www.mayanmajix.com/art1699.html
http://digg.com/news/offbeat/Nobel_Prize_winner_advocates_LSD


Or http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=lsd+nobel+prize&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

If I were you, I'd develop the analytical thought process instead of the impulsive decision process, those whom insulted me. Ignorance is bliiss, hence why so many people hate me + if you are in the USA most likely you are being mind controlled as well. I can't prove it, yet. Unfortunately you will have to discover the sad reality yourselves.


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You are most likely being mind controlled if you live in the USA. The technology was discovered back in the late 1980's. You can easily see weird towers on government buildings...
http://www.cheniere.org/misc/sparkoflife.htm#mindcontrol

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: BigBudz]
    #539529 - 03/24/11 06:31 AM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I'm pretty sure fractal was the one he was talking to about Kary Mullis.

Fuck off god, srsly.

^That is actually my globalist secular asshole brainwashing speaking.

Edited by DungenessDank (03/24/11 06:33 AM)

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: BigBudz]
    #539589 - 03/24/11 01:28 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

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Don't believe me, here is factual evidence as you request.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kary_Mullis
http://www.mayanmajix.com/art1699.html
http://digg.com/news/offbeat/Nobel_Prize_winner_advocates_LSD


Or http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=lsd+nobel+prize&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8

If I were you, I'd develop the analytical thought process instead of the impulsive decision process, those whom insulted me. Ignorance is bliiss, hence why so many people hate me + if you are in the USA most likely you are being mind controlled as well. I can't prove it, yet. Unfortunately you will have to discover the sad reality yourselves.




Why is it that every post you make, regardless of the forum, is about you?  (rhetorical question, don't reply to it!)  No one cares about how you think you are better than everyone else.  You have a lot to learn, as we all do.  I've pretty much gathered all that information above.  Please post some books or some articles and get over yourself.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #539623 - 03/24/11 03:48 PM (13 years, 8 days ago)

I almost bought the Harvard Psychedelic Club book, but instead bought The Acid Diaries by Christopher Gray.
I believe psychedelics have and can open a door in our mind that leads to deeper understanding physics, philosophy, art, music, and life. 


Kesey was on mescaline when he wrote the first three pages of Cuckoo's Nest and through all the re-edits and revisions all the people made those three pages went never changed. But he did say LSD had the greatest influence on that book.

Crick was on LSD when he realized that DNA had a double helix structure.

Kary Mullis:
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Mullis details his experiences synthesizing and testing various psychedelic amphetamines and a difficult trip on DET in his autobiography. In a Q&A interview published in the September, 1994, issue of California Monthly, Mullis said, "Back in the 1960s and early '70s I took plenty of LSD. A lot of people were doing that in Berkeley back then. And I found it to be a mind-opening experience. It was certainly much more important than any courses I ever took."[26] During a symposium held for centenarian Albert Hofmann, "Hofmann revealed that he was told by Nobel-prize-winning chemist Kary Mullis that LSD had helped him develop the polymerase chain reaction that helps amplify specific DNA sequences."[27] Replying to his own postulate during an interview for BBC's Psychedelic Science documentary, "What if I had not taken LSD ever; would I have still invented PCR?" He replied, "I don't know. I doubt it. I seriously doubt it."[28]




He also said:
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"I could sit on a DNA molecule and watch the polymers go by. I learnt that partly on psychedelic drugs."





Another great example is the LSD taking Burning Man Attendee: Antony Garrett Lisi
He is the man who is responsible for the Exceptionally Simple Theory of Everything.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An_Exceptionally_Simple_Theory_of_Everything



I am going to break here and add some more in another post soon.
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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FRACTALife]
    #541406 - 03/29/11 07:11 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FRACTALife]
    #541414 - 03/29/11 07:36 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

fuck man i got like 5 serious projects im doing now.  the latest thing is writing a childrens book with a friend/illustrator of mine.  but im really just reading at this point.  This is going to be a long long project.  Like i said at first its just going to start out with me collecting a bunch of information.  The Harvard Psychedelic club has been real good thus far.  im not much of a leary fan.  he kinda fucked it all up and really didnt give a fuck.  plus he was full of shit with everything he said.  and even he has admitted that.  :lol:


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #541416 - 03/29/11 07:38 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

I also bought another book last week.  It's called Acid Dreams.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #541417 - 03/29/11 07:46 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

I think uh the only technology that drugs made were Jimi Hendrix fingers... other then that people who smoke and do drugs our usually a little bit lazier then are president. No shame in our game though we do what we love.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: juslikejesus]
    #541424 - 03/29/11 08:07 PM (13 years, 3 days ago)

and what the fuck does that have to do with the topic?


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: juslikejesus]
    #541540 - 03/30/11 12:51 AM (13 years, 2 days ago)

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I think uh the only technology that drugs made were Jimi Hendrix fingers... other then that people who smoke and do drugs our usually a little bit lazier then are president. No shame in our game though we do what we love.




Other way around.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:

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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: THEBats]
    #542422 - 04/02/11 10:46 AM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I'm only about 30 pages into this book, Acid Dreams.  It's really cool thus far.  Lots of information about the very first wave of research done in the western hemisphere with LSD.  most of which, not surprisingly, was funded by the cia.  I will hold off on recommending it until i am done with it though.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #542468 - 04/02/11 12:36 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

I only have a few pages left in Acid Diaries, you have to read it. It's amazing.


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FRACTALife]
    #542498 - 04/02/11 02:04 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

how would you describe that one?


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Re: The depths of Influence Psychedelic drugs have had on Human and Technological Evolution [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #542504 - 04/02/11 02:27 PM (12 years, 11 months ago)

A political, philosophical, spiritual book on the history, benefit, and use of LSD and Christopher Gray's weekly experiments with the drug in his 60's.
The book answers your OP quite well.


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