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Offlinejoker55
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how these look?
    #516141 - 01/20/11 12:15 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Can you tell me if there indica or sativa please.
And how you think there lookin.

They are about 3 months old(the 2 big ones).
The small ones are About a month old.

I am using happy frog soil With Bio thrive nutes.

When do you think I should start Flowering? I heard there going to get alot bigger once I flower and I only have about a Foot and a half till they hit the light.

Should I train them? That way give more time for the little ones to get bigger?

Lighting is a 400 Watt MH light.

There all bagseed Btw.




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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #516146 - 01/20/11 12:54 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Come on people

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #516155 - 01/20/11 01:05 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

How old are they?


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Re: how these look? [Re: mhbound]
    #516285 - 01/20/11 04:21 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

hybrid... maybe on the indica dom side...

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Re: how these look? [Re: Blackstatis]
    #516421 - 01/20/11 08:56 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Hybrid and suffering from what appears to be a N overdose / Salt buildup problem.


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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #516429 - 01/20/11 09:10 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

It looks like you used a lot of nitrogen to keep them so green. which is good if your going by seed because it increases the chance of having females. they look good to flower. are you using wormcasting in the soil? but im guessing you N is higher then your P or K. tips are curling down because you are over watering them just a little. lower your nitrogen right now and flower.

Edited by E99Energy (01/20/11 09:18 PM)

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Re: how these look? [Re: E99Energy]
    #516440 - 01/20/11 09:17 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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which is good if your going by seed because it increases the chance of having females.




This is bullshit.  Increased levels of N do not induce more females.


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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #516442 - 01/20/11 09:20 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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which is good if your going by seed because it increases the chance of having females.




This is bullshit.  Increased levels of N do not induce more females.



i disagree. If you have increased N and the warm temperatures you will have more females. Why do you think its bullshit? i have read many marijuana bibles that say otherwise.

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Re: how these look? [Re: E99Energy]
    #516468 - 01/20/11 10:02 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Either way those plants need some work


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Re: how these look? [Re: mhbound]
    #516526 - 01/21/11 12:34 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Either way those plants need some work



they look pretty good. the only work they need now is a 12 hour light cycle and some larger pots though after transplanting you want to wait at least a week before kicking in. I would'nt be surprised if they are root bound by looking at the size of the plant compared to the pot. If they are root bound you may as well start again. good luck with those! your not trying to grow the plant your trying to grow the roots remember that. That being said it looks like you need more vermiculite/perlite in your mix. they look 60% sativa 40% indica. could be some ruderalis in there too. do you see pistols inbetween your nodes?

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Re: how these look? [Re: E99Energy]
    #516622 - 01/21/11 08:40 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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they look pretty good.




No, they look overdosed and suffering.  Curled leaves + Way too dark green + Clawing = problems.  A small flush and backing off on the nutes wold fix this pretty quickly.

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I would'nt be surprised if they are root bound by looking at the size of the plant compared to the pot.




Not rootbound, it takes a long ass time for a plant to become truly rootbound.  They look to be about 2.5-3 ft plants in an 3 gallon pot.  Which is just the right size for a plant that tall.

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If they are root bound you may as well start again.




If they are rootbound, which they are not, all you would need to do to solve the problem is move them to a bigger container or trim the root system down.  You do not need to chuck out your grow if they somehow become rootbound (which again none of these plants are).

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your not trying to grow the plant your trying to grow the roots remember that.




Wtf are you on?  Yes you want to create a healthy root system, but you don't grow roots you grow cannabis.  So either you worded this wrong or I'm misinterpreting what you said here.


Who are you?  I've seen you post more bullshit in two posts then I've seen other members post in two months.  I'm concerned someones feeding you bullshit, or that other members are going to buy into the BS you post.


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Re: how these look? *DELETED* [Re: coda]
    #516656 - 01/21/11 11:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: how these look? [Re: mhbound]
    #516678 - 01/21/11 01:07 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Yellowing leaves aren't much of a problem if they're localized like they are on his plants.  Older leaves that receive less light will yellow and die off quicker then younger leaves. 

All 4 pictures in the top row are exhibiting symptoms of N overdose and/or salt build up issues.  The pictures in the second row are also exhibiting the same issues although less advanced then the first row plants. 

I'm not too familiar with happy frog soil, but if it's like ocean forest in any way that shit is super hot.  My best guess is that the OP planted in either straight soil or did not cut it with enough peat/verm.  The problem was then compounded when he began using his nutrient regiment.  The plants were probably already overloaded with food, so if he fed them he was just adding to the problem of too much food being present already.  It's a pretty common problem and honestly pretty easy to deal with.  Like I said before a simple flush and some plain water until they tell you they want food should help clear up these issues.


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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #517377 - 01/23/11 01:13 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

yeah most feed me bullshit & MOst are growing these illegaly

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Re: how these look? [Re: mhbound]
    #517391 - 01/23/11 02:20 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Ranging from 2wks to 2months

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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #517393 - 01/23/11 02:23 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Remedy? i'm just using distilled h20

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Re: how these look? [Re: E99Energy]
    #517394 - 01/23/11 02:25 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

remedy? ive only gave them distilled h20 not chem yet! what should the n&p be for flowerin

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #517403 - 01/23/11 02:47 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

I was givin the plants from someone how was just gonna lettem die:/ but i was givin general organics bio thrive; both flower and veg. ive yet to use them though. also im encountering problems with water retention in the soil. ima bartender and am outta the apt half the day! ive gottem on timer 6 on 6 off. and am i suppose to use distilled h2o thats what i was told to use?

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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #517408 - 01/23/11 03:05 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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Who are you?  I've seen you post more bullshit in two posts then I've seen other members post in two months.  I'm concerned someones feeding you bullshit, or that other members are going to buy into the BS you post.




your words are bullshit "Your plants' roots are like buried treasure when you discover how easy it is to maximize their function and to achieve optimum harvests.
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most healthy plants I ever seen used voodoo unlike your roots! THE LARGER YOUR POT THE LARGER YOUR YEILD. but no one around here seems to be growing ounce and a half buds. ESP. your trying to grow your roots voodoo juice even says so. you don't know how big your buds can be unless your using the voodoo juice. Learn about your roots learn about voodoo juice. I used to grow for someone that wanted me to use this and i tell you all these pictures of buds people putting up are punny. the minute your roots bend and need to search your loosing yeild. I have voodoo knowledge thats who i am who are you? http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/voodoo_juice/voodoo_juice_product_information.php im not coming back because the moderators here are stupid. you can find me on www.marijuana.com

Edited by E99Energy (01/23/11 08:27 AM)

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Re: how these look? [Re: E99Energy]
    #517440 - 01/23/11 08:44 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Okay see ya. And there are plenty of people here who could grow these mystical ounce and a half buds but most people here are not growing for profit.

There are pictures here with people who I assure you are better growers than you pal...Check out some of Integras scrog grows. He pulled almost 2 pounds from 2 plants INSIDE........But he doesn't grow big buds does he? LOL, dumbass.


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Re: how these look? [Re: mhbound]
    #517480 - 01/23/11 10:00 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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but no one around here seems to be growing ounce and a half buds.






26 grams



32 grams



22 grams


So we're not doing what now?  Just because we don't use stupidly expensive, overhyped, nutes does not mean we don't know how to grow.  Also, just for the record, I tested out AN's claims of their product through TWO grows now and they have not given me any significant advantage over their competitors products except for higher salt levels and a lighter wallet at the end.  AN's stuff is ok, it's just really expensive and not as special as they claim it to be.

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THE LARGER YOUR POT THE LARGER YOUR YEILD.




Point me to where I said other wise and I'll correct it.

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im not coming back because the moderators here are stupid.




Bye now, sorry you want to cling to myths and bullshit.  Come back when you're ready to learn and listen, sorry if I sound like a dick here but people don't say shit just to hear themselves speak.  I'm happy to see our other members speak up and stamp out the crap you're trying to spread. It's nice to see our community step up to help keep our noobs away from crap and steer them in the right direction

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And that explains everything!  Seriously man, get over yourself and spend some time reading through our threads here.  Maybe you'll actually learn something and realize how wrong the path you are on is.

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #517481 - 01/23/11 10:11 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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I was givin the plants from someone how was just gonna lettem die:/ but i was givin general organics bio thrive; both flower and veg. ive yet to use them though. also im encountering problems with water retention in the soil. ima bartender and am outta the apt half the day! ive gottem on timer 6 on 6 off. and am i suppose to use distilled h2o thats what i was told to use?




Ok, slow down now! 

1.) You haven't given them food yet?  Good, they don't need any more at the moment!

2.) What do you mean by water retention problems?  Your soil is drying out too fast??

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ive gottem on timer 6 on 6 off.




6 on 6 off what?  Light schedule?!?!  Vegetative light schedules should be at the least 18 hrs light on / 6 hours light off.  I myself prefer the 24/0 schedule where my veg lights are constantly on.

For flowering you switch the lights to 12/12 to being the flowering process.

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and am i suppose to use distilled h2o thats what i was told to use?





Yes, distilled water is awesome.  However, you still need to check the pH of the water just in case it's too alkaline (higher then 7.0).  It's important to try and keep your soil and nutrient/water solution in the 6.5-7.0 range (with 6.8 being the preferred spot).

Also you might want to watch spraying your plants down if they're underneath an HPS light.  Large beads of water on the surface of your plants leaves act like tiny magnifying lenses.  They'll concentrate the light and burn your fans sometimes.


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Re: how these look? [Re: E99Energy]
    #517492 - 01/23/11 11:07 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Haha someone needs to give the bitch a perma and make sure he stays at mj.com

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Re: how these look? [Re: jkell]
    #517493 - 01/23/11 11:10 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

well, we just need to concentrate on helping joker here.  That's what's important.


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Re: how these look? [Re: E99Energy]
    #517607 - 01/23/11 05:06 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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E99Energy said:
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Who are you?  I've seen you post more bullshit in two posts then I've seen other members post in two months.  I'm concerned someones feeding you bullshit, or that other members are going to buy into the BS you post.




your words are bullshit "Your plants' roots are like buried treasure when you discover how easy it is to maximize their function and to achieve optimum harvests.
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most healthy plants I ever seen used voodoo unlike your roots! THE LARGER YOUR POT THE LARGER YOUR YEILD. but no one around here seems to be growing ounce and a half buds. ESP. your trying to grow your roots voodoo juice even says so. you don't know how big your buds can be unless your using the voodoo juice. Learn about your roots learn about voodoo juice. I used to grow for someone that wanted me to use this and i tell you all these pictures of buds people putting up are punny. the minute your roots bend and need to search your loosing yeild. I have voodoo knowledge thats who i am who are you? http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/products/voodoo_juice/voodoo_juice_product_information.php im not coming back because the moderators here are stupid. you can find me on www.marijuana.com




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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #518066 - 01/24/11 01:04 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

coda! thanks for the info from what I've been reading you appear to be the intelligent factual type. the soil dries out fairly quick! thats why i have it on 6 and 6 any longer and the plants become droopy. so dont spray the leaves? only the soil? and yes Ive tested the ph and its within 6 and 6.5 on the general hydroponics ph tester.

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #518072 - 01/24/11 01:12 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

its just a small closet grow the yield will go toward buying a truck, and for personal use really! im not into quantity more so than quality. ima humble person ready to learn anything and everything i can! and when friends come by to say hi or just be relieved from the slavery of life, i offer a lite, a laugh, and drink! thanks again!

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #518249 - 01/24/11 06:19 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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thats why i have it on 6 and 6 any longer and the plants become droopy.




So you have your lights on a 6 hour on 6 hour off schedule?  That's no good man, if you're flowering your plants you need them at 12/12.  If you're vegging minimum of 18/6 (on/off) is needed.  You really need to correct this now because you're severely confusing and stressing your plants out with the erratic light schedule.

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the soil dries out fairly quick!





Exactly how much water are you putting through your pots?  Rule of thumb here is to water so that 10% of what you put into the pot drains back out again.  Your containers should feel very heavy when you go to lift them again.  A 3 gallon pot can take anywhere from 1/2 to 3/4's of a gallon (if not more).

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so dont spray the leaves? only the soil?




If you're new to growing I say put off the foliar feeding for a while until you get the basics down.  I wouldn't "spray" the soil, i'd pour a lot of water through it!  You don't want to dampen your soil, you really want to give them enough so that they can live for 2-3 days at least without another watering.  If all your doing is spraying down your soil you need to be giving them much, much, more water.


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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #518672 - 01/25/11 09:41 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

coda, is there a site i can go to read up on these things? i really hate to be an inconvenience, also is it easier to grow hydroponically? if so, what would be the best way to go about it for a closet? thanks again

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #518682 - 01/25/11 10:38 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

If you want crazy roots, roots exculator does that. Really no point though. The plants have plenty of uptake without that product.


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Re: how these look? [Re: BigBudz]
    #518907 - 01/25/11 04:59 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

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coda, is there a site i can go to read up on these things?




www.growery.org/forums ?

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is it easier to grow hydroponically?




Depends on what you mean by easier.  However I usually say no, sure hydro may be a little more involved, but both soil and hydro have pros and cons to them.  In the end it's all about paying attention to detail and following instruction pretty much.  If you can read a recipe and bake a cake, you can grow.


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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #519223 - 01/26/11 11:17 AM (13 years, 3 months ago)

i was given a clone, it wasnt givin root growth juice and its startin to die any chance on revivin it? the bud produced is fairly descent.

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #519372 - 01/26/11 05:33 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Well, if roots haven't formed yet I'd cover it with a ziplock bag so it can pull moisture in from the humidity.  Always a chance you can save it my man.


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Re: how these look? [Re: coda]
    #519386 - 01/26/11 06:37 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

Joker, if your lookin for a way to do hydro, check out Hempy buckets. Pretty cool and super cheap. I havn't done soil so I cant say anything about soil. but I do hempy style. This site has everything you need. But you should for sure check out hempy style if your interested in hydro. How bout some new pics? they doin any better? did ya try flushin?

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Re: how these look? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #519387 - 01/26/11 06:39 PM (13 years, 3 months ago)

And one more thing, Coda, I'd take your advice over anyone at mj.com or any other site. for real!:thumbup: +5

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Re: how these look? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #519843 - 01/27/11 06:01 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

yeah theyre good as soon i get the camera back i'll postem and hempy buckets got it! thanks man

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Re: how these look? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #521243 - 01/30/11 03:10 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

i looked at this hydro bucket set and im wondering whats the stone thats used is a small pebble granule anything specific?, also does there have to be a constant flow of water?

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #521284 - 01/30/11 05:15 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

The small stones are called Hydroton. It's a hydroponic growing medium. Depends on what buckets your lookin at, if you checking out DWC buckets then there isnt a constant flow of water, theres a constant flow of air from the airstone on the bottom of the bucket. If your looking at drip bucket, then ya theres a constant drip of water going around the hydroton. DWC buckets are pretty easy to make. 5 gallon bucket w/lid make sure the buckets are black or gray. Then you order netpots online, I went with 5.5in net. Cut a hole in the top of your bucket lid so you can fit the netpot into it. Then all you need is hydroton and a cheap airpump from wallyworld and some tubing and air stone. And you have a perfectly good DWC bucket. You can also purchase em premade online but with shipping and everything they are cheaper to make youself. Sorry for the long post.

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Re: how these look? [Re: Shroomofdoom]
    #521330 - 01/30/11 07:04 PM (13 years, 2 months ago)

Wow...this E99 guy has to be one of the stupidest people to ever post here.

Talk about buying into bullshit claims. There are far better root products then the over priced voodoo juice. I used voodoo juice for several crops and yeah it does a little but next to the product by Roots Organics it's pretty much nothing.


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Re: how these look? [Re: Magash]
    #523305 - 02/05/11 01:09 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)

shoomofdoom! thanks for the info! the hole in the lid? does the netpot rest in it from the top evenly or cut it smaller so the netpot rests above it slightly? also are there pics of the step by step to make sure its done right? or should i just wing it? thanks again

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Re: how these look? [Re: joker55]
    #523346 - 02/05/11 07:22 AM (13 years, 2 months ago)


this is how mine is set up. hole in the top just a lil  snug on the netpot. 4 small holes for the airlines to go in on the side under the handle. i only have the 1 bucket and it is my firs try so i was not going all psycho on it.


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Because I've blackened the sun,
And I've bloodied the moon.
I bring gloom when I step in the room,
With the fumes of a tomb.
flowers bloom when Im taken away
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