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Cooltubed HID Light.
    #495297 - 11/05/10 06:05 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Can some one recommend me a Cool-tubed HID light for Marijuana Cultivation? Maybe one with a high wattage But under 600. A cheap one if there is one.

Also I have a question I just transplanted My seedlings in to 1 Gallon containers. And well I am trying not to over water but I can't Saturate the whole pot without over watering It to get to it saturated. Will the soil at the bottom of the pot dry out? Cause I have only been misting the soil of my seedlings.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #495298 - 11/05/10 06:12 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Preferably A Lower wattage for a small space. 2 foot wide 4 feet long


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #495369 - 11/05/10 10:02 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Don't worry about saturating your soil.  That's fine to do as long as you let it dry out after that.  You shouldn't have to re-water them for at least another week.  And don't mist the soil.  There is no need whatsoever. 

As far as a cool tube, look around.  Go to RVF and ebay and just look at what's out there and make a decision.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #495386 - 11/05/10 10:35 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well when I mist it That's how I water them pretty much. I give the soil A good mist for about a minute. But it drys up pretty quick. Within a day after misting it isn't so moist anymore.

Ok will do.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #495537 - 11/05/10 05:49 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well you shouldn't be misting the soil to water it.  You should just water it.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #495573 - 11/05/10 08:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

there's a few guides i think to construct a makeshift temporary cooltube
i think i might have to do that
i have a 250w hps, brand new and reflector
and a grow space of about 3x2x4/5(5 if i raise/remove the shelf)
and i bought a fan, with about 90cfm
"Flow Rate, Imperial:94cu.ft/min"
http://octopart.com/4656n-ebm-papst-4595

i take it this fan, as an exhaust gauge, replaces the air in my growspace (30 square feet) about three times per minute (90+cfm)

but i'm probably gonna slap a smaller fan in there to brush the plants and move the air some more, will my reflector fry my plantlife if i'm not careful?

i would like to get it up close and personal so they bask in glorious light but i think i'm gonna need more ventilation

tips?
and yes, i will be investing (building via DIY guide) in a carbon scrubber
so i guess if i can work a cooltube into my plans if it's absolutely necessary

i kinda have an urge to spend a good amount of my coming income on fans and the like to make this setup satisfy its haven's inhabitants

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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: lifemaker]
    #495610 - 11/05/10 11:22 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I wouldn't count on that fan to cool the light, let alone pull air through a carbon filter.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: DieselB]
    #495785 - 11/06/10 05:42 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

What causes brownish dead patches on the first leafs? My Blue Cheese Has brown deadish patches on the first leafs but the others don't? Could it be from the heat of the light or overwatering? And The blue cheese has some purple genetics cause the leafs are purple that are coming out.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #495786 - 11/06/10 05:58 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Either nutrient or Ph imbalance, I'm guessing Ph, because thats what it is 9 times out of 10.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: DieselB]
    #495790 - 11/06/10 06:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Ph is 6.5


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #495797 - 11/06/10 07:13 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thats kinda low for soil grown plants, have you checked your soil Ph or runoff?


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: DieselB]
    #495806 - 11/06/10 07:45 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: Magash]
    #495862 - 11/06/10 11:16 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome, I've got atleast 3 different versions of that and here I am talking out my ass.. :facepalm:

The only time I was doing soil was outside, the indoor people I knew always told me it needed to be 6.8-7.4, and I just can't get that shit outa my head..  :nonono:


Sorry for the bullshit guys! I'm gonna stfu about soil from now on.. :thumbup:


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: DieselB]
    #495950 - 11/07/10 10:14 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)





What you think? I used a rapitest ph meter it said the ph was 6.5 but It seems to say 6.5 for everything.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #495956 - 11/07/10 10:40 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I just have so much trouble with watering seedlings I don't know how much to water and when to water. I think I try too hard.


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"you know, when you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it? God's the guy that ignores you"
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"Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

Edited by critik (11/07/10 10:40 AM)

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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #496350 - 11/08/10 12:59 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Like I said, don't sorry about it.  Saturate the soil, then wait until it dries out.  With the size of your plants in ratio to the size of your containers, that should be at least a couple of weeks.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #496481 - 11/08/10 07:43 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Seriously wow. SO it does not harm the roots if the soil around them is dry. I always thought I had to keep it moist. I mean I watered them pretty good other day and I am sure they will start to droop here sooon.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #496649 - 11/09/10 02:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well you don't have seeds any more, they're seedlings at this point.  You'd be surprised how big of a root system they have already. 

Now if you have seeds that haven't germinated yet, then yes, you want to mist the soil.  But once you have your first set of true leaves showing you are doing a disservice to your plants by keeping them continually moist.  Keeping your soil constantly saturated can bring on a whole lot of issues. 

And I wouldn't be overly concerned about the issues with those leaves unless it starts progressing.  Are you using straight FF ocean forest??  If so then you could be seeing just a touch of nutrient burn, but nothing to be horrible worried about.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #496891 - 11/10/10 04:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Thank you I needed that. All the problems have stopped since I stopped misting the soil daily. I am using happy frog organic mix. I just didn't know to stop misting after They had there first leafs. That actually explains a lot. I Haven't watered them since Saturday and they are still not looking thirsty. But maybe later tonight or tomorrow I will not sure. Cause I didn't water them enough on Saturday to were water came out the bottom. So maybe tonight.


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"you know, when you want something really bad and you close your eyes and you wish for it? God's the guy that ignores you"
"I got something that will fit in that hole... its right here in my pocket"
"Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?"

Edited by critik (11/10/10 04:29 PM)

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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #496892 - 11/10/10 04:30 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Well then this time, THOROUGHLY saturate that soil.  Hits is going to encourage the roots to go deeper into your medium and you wont have to water as frequently.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #496897 - 11/10/10 04:38 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Gotcha would you recommend dumping the pots under water to fully saturate or just watering until runoff?


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #497175 - 11/11/10 04:29 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I just water until they have a good amount of runoff.  If I have 1 gallon pots I usually put at lest a gallon of water through it.  Remember to water slowly, like over a half an hour at the minimum so that you get even distribution of water.  If you do it fast you can get dry pockets in your soil.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #497969 - 11/14/10 01:26 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

I did not know that either. Thanx again for the great info. I have another question. On the bluecheese It has like little tiny brown spots in random spots of the first fan leafs. It isn't really progressing but I was thinking it was some kind of bug problem. What does it sound like to you. I have been noticing these bugs that fly around in my grow area look like little nats but there not. You ever seen these? But the spots are hardly noticeable You gotta really look at them. They seem to be little yellow spots then turn brown then just stop progressing. Maybe from the over watering before IDK :[ Heres a pic of growth tho.


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Re: Cooltubed HID Light. [Re: critik]
    #497971 - 11/14/10 01:27 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Blue cheese is on bottom


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