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Terence Mckenna
    #44707 - 06/01/08 04:32 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Is one of my teachers. Not personal teacher of course. But Invisible Landscape, Food of the Gods, and Archaic Revival have taught me a lot about the symbiotic relationship between humanity, tryptamines, and the "linear time-frame" which we exist in (among many other things).

Here's hours upon hours of his lectures in audio files hosted by one of my favorite websites:

http://deoxy.org/media/McKenna

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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: TheMantis]
    #44712 - 06/01/08 04:38 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

lol that guy


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: TheMantis]
    #46634 - 06/01/08 10:00 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I haven't read his other work, so I can't comment on that, but Food of the Gods really needs to be taken with a grain of salt. There are a lot of good points in there, which make it a worthwhile read. But Terence was never one to cite sources very well, and there appeared to be a lot of unreferenced hogwash in the book.

For example, when making the claim that ancient mexican indians ate psilocybin mushrooms in chocolate, he references the mushroom growing guide he and his brother wrote (under pseudonyms) as a source for this "fact". If it's actually true, shouldn't he be able to cite someone other than himself writing under another name? There was just a lot of stuff like that throughout the book that bothered me.


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: TheMantis]
    #47794 - 06/01/08 12:59 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

He's my favorite comedian.


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: Toiletduk]
    #48041 - 06/01/08 06:19 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

hes pretty rediculous
i too read food of the gods and it was definately interesting, but not much more
I do like his speeches on DMT though. they are pretty entertaining


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: TheMantis]
    #48052 - 06/01/08 06:28 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

He was pretty insane but he had some fun things to listen to


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: implee]
    #48069 - 06/01/08 06:45 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

His brother Dennis, on the other hand, is very interesting, and doesn't share Terence's tendency toward the crazy.


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: Sativus]
    #48071 - 06/01/08 06:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

mckenna and leary are both so funny to watch


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: Sativus]
    #48072 - 06/01/08 06:48 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

long live dennis.


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: MFDoom666]
    #48081 - 06/01/08 07:25 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Ah nothing like listening to the lecturing of a quack.

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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: Tangerines]
    #48302 - 06/01/08 10:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Dude, I absolutely LOVE Terence Mckenna... I just feel so at home with his ideas. I could listen to him talk for hours...


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: Siekostoner]
    #49605 - 06/03/08 03:28 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It's a shame that after decades of work on his timewave zero theory, he won't be able to see 2012.


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: godspeedyou]
    #49614 - 06/03/08 03:59 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:haha:

McKenna was a fruit loop and 2012 will be no different than any other year.


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: TheMantis]
    #49615 - 06/03/08 04:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

didn't his archive library burn down a year or so ago..? :haha:


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: neepling]
    #49618 - 06/03/08 04:21 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:haha:


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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: wowitch420]
    #49626 - 06/03/08 04:52 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: Coaster]
    #49627 - 06/03/08 04:53 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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Re: Terence Mckenna [Re: Hanky]
    #49630 - 06/03/08 05:13 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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wowitch420 said:
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
:haha::haha::haha::haha::haha:
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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Tangerines]
    #49651 - 06/03/08 07:31 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Terence McHaha

Terence McLOL


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Hanky]
    #49654 - 06/03/08 07:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:haha:

Yes, I'm still asleep.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: andyistic]
    #49656 - 06/03/08 07:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just about to snort 30mg of oxy.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Hanky]
    #49663 - 06/03/08 08:25 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:haha:


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #49671 - 06/03/08 08:46 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Nelson McHaha!


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Hanky]
    #49676 - 06/03/08 08:57 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

:neepling:


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #49681 - 06/03/08 09:10 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Time wave zero is the ripples in your toilet straight after you drop a dump.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Hanky]
    #49694 - 06/03/08 09:39 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

well there you go that's a good example. It is not possible to know where the ripple is gonna be even a split moment before the fecal matter has plopped upon the surface. Uncertainty fecal theory prevails.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #49706 - 06/03/08 09:55 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

He actually named this stupid theory "turd wave zero" but changed it because of pressure from his publisher.

The idea was that the wave starts at the point of fecal impact, spreads and hits the sides and then returns to the point it started and then repeats. the point where it starts and ends is Turd Wave Zero.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Hanky]
    #49711 - 06/03/08 10:04 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

LOL :lol:


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #49714 - 06/03/08 10:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It's very easy to see that I'm telling the truth, isn't it.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Hanky]
    #49718 - 06/03/08 10:08 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Yes.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #49833 - 06/03/08 02:43 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

haha


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: godspeedyou]
    #50046 - 06/03/08 09:37 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It's amazing how fast an interesting thread can digress into a mindless discussion of fecal matter...
















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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Siekostoner]
    #50047 - 06/03/08 09:38 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Where was the interesting part?


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Tangerines]
    #50048 - 06/03/08 09:40 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Here:



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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Siekostoner]
    #50050 - 06/03/08 09:44 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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It's amazing how fast an interesting thread can digress into a mindless discussion of fecal matter...
















:poop:




Considering the subject matter centered on the nonsense rantings of Mr McKenna, it would be fair to say that this thread was a discussion of fecal matter from the very first post.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Hanky]
    #50416 - 06/04/08 02:06 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

Well said.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #50461 - 06/04/08 03:23 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

You don't have to acknowledge anything he says. Some of his ideas are pretty valid, but I have to question how much DMT he smoked when he came up with some of his twacked out ideas.

He claims not to speculate, and then goes on to say that mushrooms are a communication tool amongst all other living life forms in the galaxy. According to Mckenna, Brownian motion can be attributed to an object as large as a mushroom spore which then gives it the ability to leave the surface of the planet, through the atmosphere, and across the galaxy to inhabit another life supporting globe.

Fun thoughts, but pure speculation since none of it can be proven.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: TheMantis]
    #50489 - 06/04/08 04:01 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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According to Mckenna, Brownian motion can be attributed to an object as large as a mushroom spore which then gives it the ability to leave the surface of the planet, through the atmosphere, and across the galaxy to inhabit another life supporting globe.





are you fucken serious? that guy was twisted.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #50525 - 06/04/08 04:57 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

It is twisted and yet not impossible. It is possible that a microscopic spore could be picked up by a thrust in the wind sent into the stratosphere and once again thrust out by a sprite; it could possibly escape the Earth's gravitational pull.

The milky way galaxy is about 100,000 light years across. If a spore moved at about 1/100th that speed it could get from one end to the other in about 2 billion years which isn't much at cosmic standards of time. But the spore wouldn't even have to travel that far since we're only 25,000 light years from the center of the milky way.

This is probably how fungi got here. Traveling spores. There's no fossil records of fungi older than 40 million years.


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: TheMantis]
    #50530 - 06/04/08 05:16 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

are you serious? did you ever think about what a magnetosphere could do to this little spore?.. . what the ozone layer would do to it... the huge shift in temperature etc etc..?? or even the UV rays hitting it..

u don't even have to get into the science of it, just think what the atmosphere does to a space rock as it's entering the mesosphere..


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: TheMantis]
    #50542 - 06/04/08 05:48 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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This is probably how fungi got here. Traveling spores. There's no fossil records of fungi older than 40 million years.




hmmm .. i just flicked through my bio text book and a found info and a picture of a fungal hyphae and spores that are dated around 460 million years old :P
but even then, why do you need a fossil?.. fungi evolve as a species like everything else. they weren't always a fungus. heard of evolution and common ancestry ?

seriously i don't know why/where people come up with some of these ideas.. cos i hear about similiar crap from certain "cosmic" people i know also.

i mean ok.. it might be fun or spiritual or whatever to think of these things.. but seriously some of it is so far out retarded... especially when people actually start believing it lol


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: TheMantis]
    #50578 - 06/04/08 11:15 AM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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This is probably how fungi got here. Traveling spores. There's no fossil records of fungi older than 40 million years.




:nonono:  All genetic evidence indicates fungi evolved on this planet (interestingly, fungi are more closely related to animals than plants in their evolutionary history).

But let's assume for a second you're right, mushrooms got here via fungal space travel.  How do you explain the fact that their mitochodrial DNA originates from bacteria here on earth?  Did they travel out the middle of the Milky Way, extablish there, then migrate on back?


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: Sativus]
    #50601 - 06/04/08 12:18 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

The entire Universe is a giant mushroom!


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: andyistic]
    #50647 - 06/04/08 02:21 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

the local college radio station randomly plays McKenna shit, usually "alien dreamtime" - they play it at random hours mostly during the day time surprisingly.

entertaining shit, i used to listen to it at work and crack up


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Re: Terence McHAHA [Re: neepling]
    #50683 - 06/04/08 03:30 PM (13 years, 6 months ago)

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hmmm .. i just flicked through my bio text book and a found info and a picture of a fungal hyphae and spores that are dated around 460 million years old :P
but even then, why do you need a fossil?.. fungi evolve as a species like everything else. they weren't always a fungus. heard of evolution and common ancestry ?




Sorry. I meant to add one more zero to that number. But I still would have been off by 60 mil.

I don't believe any of it. I'd be willing to change my ideas about anything. A belief you'll stick by no matter what. I just enjoy thinking. These thoughts lead us to research the plausibility of their truth. be. I'm not hereto prove or debunk anything. I just enjoy playing Devil's Advocate for Mckenna's sake.I do the same thing for science, para-science, and religion.

I'm not trying to prove that even though a spore can live in an oxygen free environment with zero guarding to ultra-violet light, that they could float through space and eventually come into contact with a planet. Or that anything larger than a helium molecule could escape Earth's gravitational pull no matter how many trillions of spores are constantly in the air and atmosphere. Or that the planet was seeded by microbe floating aimlessly through space. But then again, who can prove that these things don't happen?


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