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    #445948 - 07/13/10 04:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Soil Growers:
1. growing from seed
2.3 month old plants
3.about 17 inches
4.5 gallon
5.my soil mix went something like this
"compost/peat moss                                                   
soil/compost/perlite/peat moss
soil/perlite/coir/gypsum/Dynamite
soil/perlite/coir(hydrated in Super thrive mix)/verm/gypsum/miricalgrow potting mix
soil
cactus soil
small rocks
larger rocks"
6.i usually only water when i can see they need it. if they don't show signs of dehydration ill give em water after 4 days. i use airated faucet water( water is 100% safe and good tasting to drink by me, i have used it directly out of the hose for mj in the past with no problems.)
7.i dont check ph, i know, i know...
8.i use these guys
9. I Dont foliar feed but i have treated with neem as a preventative. also i have heavy fogs almost nightly now coming directly of the bay.
10.using the sun
11.the ph of the soil is about 6 - 6.5 but haven't checked since i made the soil.
12.a few spiders; Not spider mites, i know what they look like
i have minimal experience

i just wanted to add. it looks like thripe marks to me. i have identified and controlled thripes in the past. but there are no thripes here, and i dont see spider mites
I haven't neemed in about a month should i start that up again.
also i think it might be from the saltwater mist but my other plants dont seem to be affected at all.
i dunno
opinions?


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Edited by grod31 (07/14/10 12:55 PM)


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #445955 - 07/13/10 05:15 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Classic spider mite damage.


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Re: white dots [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #445964 - 07/13/10 05:38 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

yes it looks like it but i cant find even one of them and no lil webs...
yes i know to look at the under side of the leaf.
so you saying get something besides neem oil.
thats fucked up i didnt have mites then i used neem oil as a preventative and then i got mites.


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    Not me.  It would blast you through
the wall stone dead in ten seconds and they'd make me explain.


Edited by grod31 (07/13/10 05:39 PM)


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #445977 - 07/13/10 06:16 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

When using Neem oil to get rid of spider mites you need to use it along with some sort of dispersal agent.  It can be something as simple as Dr. Bronners castille soap,.  But I prefer a product called penetrator.  It's originally designed as a nutrient delivery system, but w when d with Neem oil.  Apply every 5 days for 2 weeks to make sure our getting all the eggs that are hatching. 

Or you could always go with predator mites, But I tend to reserve those for flowering times.


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Re: white dots [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #445995 - 07/13/10 06:51 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

but thats what im saying i i didnt have spider mites before i wasn't trying to get rid of them.
i used neem for the hell of it to to act as a preventative and now your saying i have mites.
wouldn't i be able to see them when i sit there and really examine my plants?
thank you ro the suggestions as it stands


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And when it comes to that fantastic note
where the rabbit bites its own head off,
I want you to THROW THAT FUCKING
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    Not me.  It would blast you through
the wall stone dead in ten seconds and they'd make me explain.


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #446009 - 07/13/10 07:26 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

You should be able to see them, have you been able to spot them in the past??  Using neem didn't give your plants mites by any means.  It looks lke your growing outdoors, so I bet it was just a matter of time. 

I don't know what to tell ya man.  It looks like spider mite damage to me, so I'd treat it as such.


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Re: white dots [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #446014 - 07/13/10 07:32 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

i know the neem didnt give it to em lol
imagine...
i have been able to see mites in the past, i know what they look like, i have seen the red ones and i have seen the green ones. i recently have seen what thripes look like to. but not on these plantsthey have been bug free.
this is what i think
they were in a garden for a while tho so there were natural mite colonies around and didnt stick to the mj but now that they are on a patio they were isolated and the mites took advantge of what they had.

i have scattered showers for the next week or so should i try and hit them before or after the rains?


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Let it roll!  Just as high as the fucker can go! 
And when it comes to that fantastic note
where the rabbit bites its own head off,
I want you to THROW THAT FUCKING
RADIO INTO THE TUB WITH ME!
    Not me.  It would blast you through
the wall stone dead in ten seconds and they'd make me explain.


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #446040 - 07/13/10 08:25 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Do it now before the rains and then you wont have to rinse them off.


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Re: white dots [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #446073 - 07/13/10 09:39 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

i have no scent free soap,i just looked around and all the soap has alcohol or fragrance i have nothing atm to mix with the neem. how big of a problem is  that?


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And when it comes to that fantastic note
where the rabbit bites its own head off,
I want you to THROW THAT FUCKING
RADIO INTO THE TUB WITH ME!
    Not me.  It would blast you through
the wall stone dead in ten seconds and they'd make me explain.


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #446132 - 07/14/10 02:49 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

It wont work well at all without some sort of wetting agent in there.


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Re: white dots [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #446197 - 07/14/10 12:17 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

well ill pick something up today
this the only thing you think it could be?
i know it looks just like it...
here s the plant next to it that doesn't have the same markings but does have white dots


and more pics of the previous plant

i just dont get how it could have got so bad before i can even see them.


Edited by grod31 (07/14/10 12:57 PM)


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #446247 - 07/14/10 01:26 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Is there anyway that could be damage from the Neem oil?  The reason i ask is that it's strange he isn't seeing any signs of spider mites, and I know certain plants can be touchy with oil based foliar sprays, due to the fats clogging the stomata


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Re: white dots [Re: kyuzo]
    #446284 - 07/14/10 03:08 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I've never seen Neem oil damage plants.  I'd like to someone else pop in here for a second opinion though.


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Re: white dots [Re: kyuzo]
    #446286 - 07/14/10 03:10 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

dude i have the same problem.....and i just bought some organic insecticide from walmart, and it didnt cure the dots, but it damn sure stopped whatever was causing it...and they havent spread:shrug:

its like 3 in 1 rose spray or something like that.

it has pyrethrins in it,along with sulfur for some reason...but i had relativley good success with it.


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Re: white dots [Re: weezy420]
    #446287 - 07/14/10 03:13 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Well of course the damage that has been done is going to stay.  They can't heal themselves.


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Re: white dots [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #446305 - 07/14/10 04:09 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

yeah, i didnt know that before


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Re: white dots [Re: weezy420]
    #451056 - 07/25/10 02:00 AM (6 years, 4 months ago)

I heavily doubt that Neem oil is to blame. 

Did you mist the leaves during the day time?


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Re: white dots [Re: MushrooMan420]
    #451116 - 07/25/10 12:56 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

no. never misted durring the day, or in the morning for that matter.
only after the sun went down.
i still to this day have not seen any bugs on my plants at all.

in fact i haven't done anything to fix it and the problem is gone
so
i dont think it was bugs....


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Let it roll!  Just as high as the fucker can go! 
And when it comes to that fantastic note
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I want you to THROW THAT FUCKING
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    Not me.  It would blast you through
the wall stone dead in ten seconds and they'd make me explain.


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #454988 - 08/04/10 12:43 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

i have come to the conclusion that it is flies.
regular house flies that are attracted to the smell of garbage.(or skunk)
a fan has hellped keep them away. but they love my plants.


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Let it roll!  Just as high as the fucker can go! 
And when it comes to that fantastic note
where the rabbit bites its own head off,
I want you to THROW THAT FUCKING
RADIO INTO THE TUB WITH ME!
    Not me.  It would blast you through
the wall stone dead in ten seconds and they'd make me explain.


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Re: white dots [Re: grod31]
    #455017 - 08/04/10 02:24 PM (6 years, 4 months ago)

Are you still spraying with the neem?

If not, I think it might be from the oil not being "mixed" with the water and forming beads of oil on your leaves.


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