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okay well this year did not go as planned but i still have like 6 plants going 1 confirmed short stuff onyx female. well i bought from attitude and got my seeds and like 10 free seeds... the biggest deal yeah.. so next year i wanna grow these ill probably start then begin of march and move out side in april mid to end. harvest in sept. and grown in 5 gallon pots? that should be good right? anyway i have 10 lowyrder and 10 snowryder. im gonna start these little things up soon they wont yeild much but im afraid with the time left its my ony option since im going somewhere in begin of sept.