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Check this out!
    #428480 - 06/03/10 11:30 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-growing-techniques/577861-monster-cropping.html

Second post down has some wild pictures of this training called monster cropping.

I thought it looked really kool, anybody heard of it?


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Re: Check this out! [Re: boomsaway]
    #428482 - 06/04/10 12:01 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Can you save the pics and post them here? I dont have an account there and don't really care enough to make one.


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Re: Check this out! [Re: Lucid]
    #428485 - 06/04/10 12:09 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Here ya go
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Here's a great monster cropping article that might help you

Monster Cropping

This method of training involves taking clones of flowering plants and then forcing them to root and re-veg, which eventually leads to very bushy plants with a great number of branches and nodes. I named this technique Monster Cropping because that is what you will get, real monster plants, but also because this method was introduced to the scene by a grower named greenmonster714. He in turn credits a grower named Feral for discovering this technique.

Taking clones from flowering plants goes against all that has been said about cloning cannabis and might therefore seem a bit confusing at first but the science behind the technique is sound and the results speak for themselves.

You start by taking clones of a plant that is about 21 days into flowering. This seems to be the best time to do it but you can also takes clones at a later stage with the same results. The lower branches make better clones as they have not yet become rigid and will also root faster and more easily than say the top cola. Move the new cutting into a glass of water and let it sit for a while in order to make sure that no air gets into the vascular system during handling, as this can be fatal to your new plant. You should make the cut so that it runs along the stem as this will increase the surface area for water and possibly nutrient uptake, depending on what method of cloning you use.

In the picture below, you can see how the clone from a flowering plant been has placed in a propagation bubbler for rooting and re-vegging. This also means that you will have to put the clone back under a veg light schedule of 18/6, 20/4 or even 24/0. Clones do not need strong light so a small CFL will do. You can remove some of the buds at this stage in order to encourage the plant to revert back into its vegetative cycle but leave the topmost flower alone.

It will take several weeks for the clone to root, some never do, so it is best that you take a great number of clones at the same time in order to ensure that at least one makes it on to the next stage. It might be a good idea to place the clones inside a humidity dome, which can be bought at gardening stores or custom built for your specific needs. The high humidity inside the dome will make sure that the plants do not dry out and die. Ventilate the dome every day just to make sure that the plants don't get attacked by mold.

Keep in mind however that the most important thing when it comes to cloning is to provide the fresh cuttings with plenty of oxygen and that is why the propagation bubbler is so effective compared to other methods.

The clones might be a sorry sight at first but as soon as they root, they will also revert back into the vegetative stage and start growing again. Once the clones have rooted properly and started growing again, they will put out single unserrated leaves at first but the normal leafs are soon to follow. It might be a good idea to apply some training at this stage, tying down some of the tops will encourage even more branching. You can also provide some heat underneath the clones as this will speed up the rooting process considerably.

When the plant starts growing again, the incredible branching power of the flowering clone becomes apparent.

As you can see, this plant has grown into a real monster, and all this without ever topping the plant. That's the beauty of this technique; you can forget all about topping and FIM'ing since the flowering clone will sprout all these new branches all by itself.

This plant is now perfectly suited for a SCROG or perhaps even a SOG grow. This one plant can easily fill up an entire Scrog net in no time. Several of these plants grown in SOG will definitely give you a grand harvest.

There are other benefits from using this technique; it also removes the need for keeping mother plants. When the newly re-vegged plant is flowered, it can also provide more clones for a perpetual harvest. Recycling at its best. This might be of interest to those who need to keep down their number of plants.

Needless to say, this method is highly effective thanks to the heavy branching that occurs after a flowering clone is re-vegged. With further training and some patience, you will get some real monster plants and thereby also a monster harvest.




And the link again- http://forum.grasscity.com/advanced-growing-techniques/577861-monster-cropping.html


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Re: Check this out! [Re: boomsaway]
    #428506 - 06/04/10 01:16 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Ya Inverted took some clones 3 weeks into flowering of his magash test runs seeds,  They were put in a humidity dome but it still took like 3-4 weeks for roots to really begin to grow. after they were large enough to handle it they were transfered to my 400w hps grow room where they turned HUGE! The plants they produced are 2 of the biggest plants we have! Check it out

http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/422667


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Re: Check this out! [Re: Lucid]
    #428511 - 06/04/10 01:32 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

OH wow! cant believe i missed that!

you guys are crazy! i love it haha, which are the reveged clones out there?

id like to see that

Good luck, no bad juju for 6 months!


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Re: Check this out! [Re: boomsaway]
    #428542 - 06/04/10 04:47 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

We are going out to get some work done this morning (its 4am, about to crash) so ill get a few prime pics of the two clones that had this done to them. He dident do it to try this method he just happen to take clones well into flowering. :laugh: ill update later!


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Re: Check this out! [Re: Lucid]
    #428550 - 06/04/10 07:14 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

So, how long into flowering does it need to be to have this exponential growth? I cut some clones to put outdoors from a mother plant I flowered right up until she showed sex. Then, I revegged her for a few weeks and took clones from her.

I doubt it'll have a result like that...but it'd be awesome if it did! (especially because its outdoor anyway...:eek:)


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Re: Check this out! [Re: RasJeph]
    #428568 - 06/04/10 09:29 AM (12 years, 2 months ago)

you might not have waited long enough, they show sex fast when u put em under 12/12

that post says after day 21 (3 weeks) of flower

now whether that includes the transition week or not, i dunno


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Re: Check this out! [Re: boomsaway]
    #428684 - 06/04/10 04:17 PM (12 years, 2 months ago)

Thats kinda cool, their pictures posted don't make me think that results will be any better than standard LST. Looks like it just shoots off a bunch of skinny ass branches.. To make them worthy of holding any bud they would need to be vegged out for a while. So, basically you're just stretching out the process and stressing out your clones for no reason.


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