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 ChillWillis
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 The best band ever? 
#381241 - 03/10/10 11:56 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I think it this may be self-evident but what the hell, why not?
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 FarBeyondDriven
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 Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381260 - 03/10/10 12:31 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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They are awesome, but I wouldn't consider them the best. But we all gots different views on music so the eternal argument will rage long after this thread has been closed.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381262 - 03/10/10 12:37 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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wow that poll sucks
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RasJeph
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I won't even post what I think the best band is.
Nobody here has the same taste in music as me. Or, I doubt they do anyway.
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FarBeyondDriven
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: RasJeph]
#381274 - 03/10/10 12:53 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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id be interested to hear it. this is a tune town thread for sure.
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RasJeph
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: RasJeph]
#381278 - 03/10/10 01:00 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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They might not sound like the best to most people...but I hear them in a way nobody else can. I've been to see their live shows...I can't even count how many times. They were the best band in the world to me. I love the "raw" sound of bands like this, but these guys touched on something special for me.
It was during a time in my life when I was real confused...and the lyrics spoke to me like no others. Still do.
And, I can remember the energy of the shows...you wouldn't believe it. Much more of a rush than any drug has ever given me.
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FurrowedBrow
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
wow that poll sucks
You suck! I thought it was one of the best polls here. It's good to have another tool fan around. They are awesome! I wish they would do another tour. I should be saving up for it. Last tour I had a guy stay with me that went to every show on the tour except the last one in LA. what a summer that was for him i bet.
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Homosapian
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"TOOL" i think that explains everything , they are a bucn of tools.
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FarBeyondDriven
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: RasJeph]
#381288 - 03/10/10 01:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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They're not bad man. That's what music is all about. Whatever YOU like. I like the band name too.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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FurrowedBrow said:
Harry_Ba11sach said:
wow that poll sucks
You suck! I thought it was one of the best polls here. It's good to have another tool fan around. They are awesome! I wish they would do another tour. I should be saving up for it. Last tour I had a guy stay with me that went to every show on the tour except the last one in LA. what a summer that was for him i bet.
I'll admit that they're a pretty good band, but the greatest ever? Hardly. meh, 
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Homosapian]
#381291 - 03/10/10 01:24 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah, i was just messin. they aren't the greatest. But they are my favorite band over zeppelin, floyd, the dead, etc.
Homosapian said:
"TOOL" i think that explains everything , they are a bucn of tools.
your ignorance has been noted. 
hey chillW (or anyone else), do you have any bootlegged shows you'd be willing to trade?
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Homosapian]
#381292 - 03/10/10 01:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Homosapian said:
"TOOL" i think that explains everything , they are a bucn of tools.
If you cannot appreciate tool and the music they've created then unfortunately your the only tool in here. They are a phenomenal band and their music has left a fucking crater mark on this planet.
Now whether they're the best? Obviously this something only the individual listener can decide... but to diss tool? That's like dissing Led Zeppelin.... or Metallica.... you simply cannot. They are good. End of discussion.
Go back to trolling forums you've been banned from.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: TomCollins]
#381294 - 03/10/10 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I can tell you some problems that I have with them. that's mainly in their live shows. Last tour, the same setlist for every fuckin show!? plus their lame ass commercial stance on tapers. I also thought the 2006-2009 shows were pretty lame compared to those of 2002. But then again, no show can compare to the last few dozen shows in 2002. Was the first concert I ever went to. It was simply amazing. It was soo much more than just a couple of big screens on each side of the stage. Here's a picture....
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381295 - 03/10/10 01:30 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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fuckin' duh
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Moonajuana Time
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the mars volta>tool
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Moonajuana Time said:
the mars volta>tool
no way
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Homosapian
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Homosapian
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Homosapian]
#381304 - 03/10/10 01:51 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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im joking you guys , tool is decent i just don't like heavy metal , rock , punk emo shit.
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Harry_Ba11sach
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Homosapian]
#381308 - 03/10/10 02:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What do you listen to? hip-hop? 
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Homosapian
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what don't you like hip hop ?
check this out.
the sound is newjack as all hell, but the lyrics are reminiscent of classic P.E.. Rap music hasn't been this political, subversive, angry, raw, proactive, meaningful, or protest oriented since the early 80's. This man should win an award for this. He's an advocate and a subvert, and that is quite refreshing in contrast to the hip hop mainstream trends of money, record deals, drug deals, and other meaningless content found on today's number 1 hits. Antavio Johnson, you're a true artist
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RasJeph
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Harry_Ba11sach said:
What do you listen to? hip-hop?
Hey, its not all bad! 
You just have to listen past the radio - but thats true with any genre anyway.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Picklez]
#381328 - 03/10/10 03:13 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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KillerPicklez said:
Moonajuana Time said:
the mars volta>tool
no way
watch this entire video in 480p and then say that:
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ChillWillis
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SHIT sorry I missed the opportunity to defend the best band ever.
TOOL is just fucking incredible... In lateralus they the beat to the fibonacci sequence.
Black and white are all I see in my infancy, red and yellow then came to be reaching out to me...
And sorry no shows here man :frown
They will tour again, they still have one more CD on their contract (or at least I was told).
Sprial out my friends.
Tool > Marijuana.
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i love TOOL. i wouldn't say they are the greatest either, but they have definitely made my life a bit more bearable at times. i'm actually wearing my TOOL hoodie right now, i need to get a new one as this one has seen too much love in its life and has just about had it, but i love the thing.
i actually think i will put on some TOOL right now to kind of get me up and going for the day. that is, if i can find some on this damn boy's computer. there has to be some.
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Tool is amazing, i would say some of the best lyrics, great instrumentals, and great synchronization in a band.
But right now Bassnectar is my favorite, probably the best DJ in the world right now, or is going to be. his style is every type of music with dub/breaks/glitch/electronic. sry for the hijack
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Homosapian]
#381384 - 03/10/10 05:06 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Homosapian said:
im joking you guys , tool is decent i just don't like heavy metal , rock , punk emo shit.
Then what do you like Mike&Ike?
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FarBeyondDriven
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Tangerines]
#381391 - 03/10/10 05:12 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tangerines said:
Homosapian said:
im joking you guys , tool is decent i just don't like heavy metal , rock , punk emo shit.
Then what do you like Mike&Ike?
I think this is how he gets down
Tool kicks donkey Ftw 
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He just seems like a Mike&Ike to me. Mike
HOMO likes that shit^
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ltd
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tool is fucking 
maynard on acid @ jc dobbs 92:
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ltd]
#381415 - 03/10/10 05:40 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ha that was great I had never seen that clip.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Tangerines]
#381418 - 03/10/10 05:43 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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the whole jc dobbs 92 set is epic
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ChillWillis
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ltd]
#381419 - 03/10/10 05:44 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Idk, he might not be on acid in that video.. He doesn't really move around too much when he's preforming. I think the only thing he moves is his left arm usually
I guess it takes a lot to summon the voice of the gods from such a little guy.
Example:
See he doesn't really move around too much.. But at 3:02 you can hear him fucking break the sound barrier... 
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ltd
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381421 - 03/10/10 05:45 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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he's on something, look at the other vids from that set like sober
he's fuckin out of it
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Slave of Cthulhu
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381422 - 03/10/10 05:46 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tool is def fuckin rad. Probably one of the top five best bands in my opinion but not THE best. Can't really decide on the numba one spot ya know?
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 Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381424 - 03/10/10 05:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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voice of a god, definitely.
he could sing into my vagina any day.
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ChillWillis
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Tool just does it for me in every way like no woman ever could.
Man it's like this: you've got the outstanding vocals, thought provoking lyrics, incredible instrumentals on all accounts (especially Danny on drums), they fuck with some excellent beats that nobody else would ever think of, then on top of all this when live they put themselves forward not just as a band but as an entirely artistic demonstration..
and they do a shit load of drugs too..
It doesn't get better than that bro.
Bands like Tool and Metallica are a dying breed.
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Fer shizzle. APC is a great fuckin band too. Maynard is just the fuckin man.
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RasJeph
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Isn't Maynard sober now? Like, 100%?
I don't know much about him or the band, so don't jump on me for that if I'm wrong. I just seem to remember having heard that.
Also, my buddy Dave named his son after him :]
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: RasJeph]
#381430 - 03/10/10 06:01 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Probably. Would make sense. If I was a musician/artist I'd probably never be sober. Haha.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: RasJeph]
#381438 - 03/10/10 06:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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RasJeph said:
Isn't Maynard sober now? Like, 100%?
I don't know much about him or the band, so don't jump on me for that if I'm wrong. I just seem to remember having heard that.
Also, my buddy Dave named his son after him :]
www.caduceus.org/
I read in the Book of Tool (just a special issue of revolver) that MJK likes to do psilocybin a few times a year. That 92 show is amazing, no doubt.
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ChillWillis
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Has anyone tried his wine?
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ltd
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381444 - 03/10/10 06:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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haha no
but i'm sure it's fucking like everything else of his
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ChillWillis
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ltd]
#381446 - 03/10/10 06:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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it probably screams at you when you open it.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381452 - 03/10/10 06:28 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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As a matter of fact i have tried his wine. Ive got 12-15 bottles of it. Also I am going to his tasting room in Jerome later this month! Woot!! I havent been to the new place but went to the old tasting room in cornville a few times. Some of the wine is OK. I tried a few of the cheaper 25$ a bottle and a bottle that was 80 or something. The cheap one wasn't to my liking but the higher dollar one (Naga, 06 i think?) was.
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ChillWillis
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I watched a wine tasting online with maynard and some wine guy it was pretty interesting, the wine reviewer was definitely crazy about wine and not tool. It seemed like he bumped up the rating he gave it anyway.
Apparently they care a great deal about the wine though:
" We will NOT be shipping over the summer due to potential damage to our wines. We will ship up until the last week of May, unless temperatures increase dramatically. All wines purchased after the last week of May will be held until Fall. You will be required to show proof of ID and must be 21 years of age or older in order to receive your shipment. If you are not 21, FedEx will refuse delivery and will return your product to Caduceus, which will consider them damaged goods due to the extra time they have spent in delivery at unmonitored temperature and humidity. Should delivery be unsuccessful and/or refused because you are not 21, you provided an incorrect address, or no one was available to receive these perishable goods, you will NOT receive a refund and no exchange will be allowed."
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#381570 - 03/10/10 09:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Tool is fucking awesome, my brother is going to see Puscifer, the band Maynard is in now, in april. Ive never heard much about them but if its anything like tool then im sure it will be a kickass show...
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i do believe ltd saw them recently. He posted the setlist in a thread in the tune talk forum.
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ltd
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mars volta, LOL
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Moonajuana Time
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Edited by Moonajuana Time (03/10/10 11:31 PM)
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elcharrosays
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I said it. I just fucked up the quotation brackets.
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i heard drunken starship in college. I've been a fan since. It's a different sound.
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I don't know what you're talking about bro. It is my humble opinion that L'Via is a just fine introduction to The Mars Volta. It's definitely no random recommendation, it's a major single and one of their most popular songs. I don't think their sound is as difficult for people to get into as you suggest but I get what you're saying. L'Via isn't as crazy and far out as much of their other material which is why it's often one of the first songs I play for new people.
..and come on man.. the words "L'Via" and "HORRIBLE" even in the same sentence together? 
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Best band ever? to wide open of a question for the mixed crowed here. Now as far as most influential band in this post (now I'm not saying the best band I said most influential) is easily Led Zeppelin.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Magash]
#381980 - 03/11/10 02:47 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I disagree with your post, but wholeheartedly agree with your signature.
Influentially you gotta go by genera, and Zepplin's got a lot of competition in theirs (even within their own time period).
What about jimmi, doors, floyd, the who?
Tool is second only to Metallica for influence in their genera, only because Metallcia came first.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
#382003 - 03/11/10 03:25 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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too bad Metallica blows major chunks now. oh god it is bad.
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Best band ever has to go to the Rolling Stones.
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best band ever is highly subjective.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
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ChillWillis said:
I disagree with your post, but wholeheartedly agree with your signature.
Influentially you gotta go by genera
I gotta imagine you mean genre...
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Yea what the fuck ever... 
I try my best to write in a literate manner, can't always win
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too bad Metallica blows major chunks now. oh god it is bad.
THIS.
Metallica is fucking horrid.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
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ChillWillis said:
I disagree with your post, but wholeheartedly agree with your signature.
Influentially you gotta go by genera, and Zepplin's got a lot of competition in theirs (even within their own time period).
What about jimmi, doors, floyd, the who?
Tool is second only to Metallica for influence in their genera, only because Metallcia came first.
I'd still have to hang with Zeppelin over all these esp Metallica. I graduated from high school in the mid 80's and they didn't hit their peek in popularity till they were past their peek musically. Right around the black album is when they decided to mix in with all the other bands.
Now as far as the older bands I pick Zep as the most influential band cause they lasted. Jimmy and the Doors were popular for a little over 3 to 4 years each. Now had the Door and Jimmy not had the head of the band die would we talk about them like we do today. I'm thinking we would be into them but Jimmy would be blending in with the Jimmy Page, Jeff Beck, Eric Clapton, and David Gilmore's of the world.
The Doors would be killer also but they would be spoken of like the Who, Stones, Beatles and so on.
Now another reason I ran with Zep is they didn't play lets change the band members like the Stones, Who, Floyd, Santana. One member of the band died and the rest realize that they can never be the same band and don't go on. You have to kind of respect that.
Now if you want a band that has changed members and has a ton of influence on the music scene is a simple little band called AC/DC
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elvis and the beatles heavily influenced zeppelin. soooo isn't that like the transitive property or somethign?
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guyyys stop being silly all that matters is how it sounds. what with all this bullcrap about influences and similarities an shit
does it sound good? that should be the only question.
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The Beatles weren't much of a influence on Zeppelins music but Elvis was big with Robert Plant. The biggest musical influence on Zeppelin came from the American blues scene of the early 50's.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Magash]
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Zeppelin has provided me many enjoyable acid trips, as has tool. I love to watch the music.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Magash]
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Magash said:
The Beatles weren't much of a influence on Zeppelins music but Elvis was big with Robert Plant. The biggest musical influence on Zeppelin came from the American blues scene of the early 50's.
The Beatles influenced Led Zeppelin and EVERY british rock band, even if Zeppelin mainly played the blues, they and every other rock band after the Beatles borrowed from the well in the same way The Beatles borrowed from Elvis and the blues. If The Beatles hadn't blow the door open for rock and roll the same way Elvis had years before inspiring The Beatles to become rock musicians there would have never been a YardBirds, New Yardbirds or Led Zeppelin.
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Um, the Beatles were not rock and roll.
They were straight up and down pop music.
Elvis used a lot of Blues influence, but the melting pot that defines rock and roll brings together American sounds like R&B, Improvisational Jazz, cajun and creole sounds, country and gospel music.
Rock and Roll is an American invention.
Later Beatles albums have some great rock sounds, but they're sounds that were picked up over time and travel and aren't present in their early albums.
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Before love me dooooo, they were a greased hairdo rockabilly blues bar act. the pop came later with management and success.
Way before the pop, they were teenage Elvi in training.
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The Beatles influenced Led Zeppelin and EVERY British rock band, even if Zeppelin mainly played the blues, they and every other rock band after the Beatles borrowed from the well in the same way The Beatles borrowed from Elvis and the blues. If The Beatles hadn't blow the door open for rock and roll the same way Elvis had years before inspiring The Beatles to become rock musicians there would have never been a YardBirds, New Yardbirds or Led Zeppelin.
This is a ridiculous statement. First off the Beatles were more influenced by Buddy Holy and the Crickets then Elvis. Quote:
Joining on bass in January, Lennon's fellow student Stuart Sutcliffe suggested changing the band name to "The Beetles" as a tribute to Buddy Holly and The Crickets, and they became "The Beatals"
John Lennon on how they came up with their sound "Decades after its release, the album still sounds fresh, precisely because of its intense origins." Lennon said little thought went into composition at the time; he and McCartney were "just writing songs à la Everly Brothers, à la Buddy Holly, pop songs with no more thought of them than that—to create a sound. And the words were almost irrelevant."
By 1966 their popularity dropped quiet a bit and they never toured the US again after 1966 and that includes after the release of the Sgt Peppers album.
They were good at making little girls scream but musically they weren't taken seriously by many and attribute the changing styles of their music from 1966 to 1969 to this.
Paul McCartney "We sold millions of albums and sold out shows in the metropolitan areas of the United States and Europe but never were able to get the critical response to the music other then a few songs on the Sgt Peppers release"
So yes the Beatles were the first big rock act out of England and opened the door for many but musically they weren't half the influence of Elvis,Rolling Stones, the Who, and numerous Blues performers of the 50s
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Magash]
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This always seems like a futile argument. I mean there are some observable things that pinpoint an influence in music but really how can anyone argue about the degree of influence that one band has had on another? I just don't think that's a very fact-based argument - from any perspective. I mean we can all see traces of zeppelin in a lot of bands out now. We can also see traces of elvis and the beatles in certain areas of zeppelins records. but the degree of influence isn't something that's quantifiable or identifiable imo.
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you guys are totally missing the point of music
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FurrowedBrow said:
This always seems like a futile argument. I mean there are some observable things that pinpoint an influence in music but really how can anyone argue about the degree of influence that one band has had on another? I just don't think that's a very fact-based argument - from any perspective. I mean we can all see traces of zeppelin in a lot of bands out now. We can also see traces of elvis and the beatles in certain areas of zeppelins records. but the degree of influence isn't something that's quantifiable or identifiable imo.
Agreed. To be honest I figure most bands just are a group of guys who get together and play what they like and if it happens to sound a little like another band that is just the breaks. 
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Magash]
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Homosapian]
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Homosapian said:
[flash=425,350]http:///flash]
this is better than anything tool has made.
Uncomparable except in rhyme scheme to time scale kinda thing.
(and btw this is a shitty song by him, it's all about Stan)
Eminem raps about personal (and sometimes fictional) experiences with drugs and violence. Tool sings about life, death and our shitty society.
Tool is undeniably the best rockers of our time
Eminem and B.I.G. are our best rappers
I can't think of any other genres I really care for atm.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
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omar pwns tool, by the way
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ltd]
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Agreed, that was terrible.
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I've seen the movie and the one guy is insane. The one who can play like 50+ instruments. While I appreciate his talent I don't enjoy any of their songs..
Unless they do that song that's like "I love my label", which it pretty OK
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
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ChillWillis said:
I've seen the movie and the one guy is insane. The one who can play like 50+ instruments. While I appreciate his talent I don't enjoy any of their songs..
Unless they do that song that's like "I love my label", which it pretty OK
Anton Newcombe?
Yeah he's crazy. He digs his acid. I met him at his Melbourne gig in 2008.
He was moderately fucked.
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I'm on a tool kick atm. Listening to lateralus and reading the lyrics to the songs. Here's parabola. One of my top 10 favorites off that album. as a side note to my life and this band I will add that this album came out on the day i graduated high school. then five years later (one year TO THE DAY after I graduated college) I watched them play on the stage I received my degree on. I had a closer seat than my parents had! that shit was epic. tool at gammage auditorium. I know a couple members here know that place. It's amazing. I was in row 16 dead center. seat cost about 400$ but it was damn worth it.
Oh shit, I just remembered. This was also the only show ever (that I know of) where they performed Lipan Conjuring. I have a copy of it i can upload if anyone wants it. they opened the show with it. I remember danny came out with a small drum and the other guy and it was all blue and foggy on stage it was neat. they didn't use any microphones or speakers for it either. just the drum and the voice.
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maybe this time you can just listen to it.
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I'm gonna tell you a secret.
I've never actually seen tool.
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shit dude, what's your geographical area? u in the states? Hopefully they will do another round of shows. I do believe there is another album in the works.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
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I'm gonna tell you a secret.
I am a tool
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I was a fan in high school then moved on to bigger better bands. It just reminds me of the teenage speed freaks from 1999 with the black shirts, pierced faces and tribal tattoos. They aren't the worst band it just all sounds the same to me when being blasted from 2 trailers over.
Here's a list of other bands from high school to grow out of:
Slipknot
Sublime
System of a down
Korn
Kottonmouth Kings
Blind Melon
Incubus
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FB: I'm in northern new england broseph, the brother from the appalacians, biggie for life and all that...But I will do anything to see Tool when they come around again. Another big tool friend of mine told me that they have another album on their contract so they're almost gauranteed to tour again, if not I'll see them at the next festy they play at around here or something. As I said I'm going to do ANYTHING to see them short of sucking Maynard's Dick. (good song)
Coaster doing another textbook example of Coaster.
Steve: I agree I've grown out of a lot of bands since high school including many of those (SOAD, Slipknot, KMK, and Korn to be exact - sublime still kicks ass).
Tool is incredible man, just blows my mind every time I listen to it.. The lyrics, the vocals, drums, guitar.. It's all incredible.
APC is nice too.
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i prefer this kind of music for when i need my mind blown
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i listen to that kind of music, whenever i want to hear something really fucking horrible
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ltd]
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ltd said:
i listen to that kind of music, whenever i want to hear something really fucking horrible
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Steve Buscemi said:
I was a fan in high school then moved on to bigger better bands. It just reminds me of the teenage speed freaks from 1999 with the black shirts, pierced faces and tribal tattoos. They aren't the worst band it just all sounds the same to me when being blasted from 2 trailers over.
Here's a list of other bands from high school to grow out of:
Slipknot
Sublime
System of a down
Korn
Kottonmouth Kings
Blind Melon
Incubus
did you really grow out of them or just change interests? I mean do you still like those same songs you used to love? I know I do. I usually don't stop liking a particular song.
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our tastes in musics evolves over time;
..for us who follow the music instead of the bands.
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FurrowedBrow said:
did you really grow out of them or just change interests? I mean do you still like those same songs you used to love? I know I do. I usually don't stop liking a particular song.
I still enjoy some sublime, I just don't like metal much anymore as for tool and the rest on that list are just unlistenable to me now. I just really got into old rock and all types of weird music. when I was in high school I liked typical teenagery music like metal and rapping, but by the time I was like 17 I was heavily into classic rock and old country/bluegrass and jazz all the weird stuff from the golden age of music.
I just rather listen to an old album from the 60's over psych/metal like tool...... I like my prog rock from the first generations like Rush, King Crimson, ZAPPA.
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Moonajuana Time said:
i prefer this kind of music for when i need my mind blown
Omar is ridiculous, but he is so much better with the band. I saw them at Big Day Out earlier this year, veryyyyyyyy good.
But not much of a fan of his solo stuff.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: Triptonic]
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i'm not a very big fan of the mars volta anymore
omar is still awesome though
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Big time quick reply fail.
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nobody gives a fuck about quick reply
you obviously knew who he was speaking to
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nobody gives a fuck about quick reply
you obviously knew who he was speaking to
People should give a fuck about it, its there for a reason.
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
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Fret for your figure
and
Fret for your latte
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Fret for your hairpiece
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Fret for your lawsuit
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Fret for your prozac
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Fret for your pilot
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Fret for your contract
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Fret for your car.
It's a bullshit three ring circus sideshow of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ChillWillis]
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someone should move this thread to tune town
oh and
fuck L ron hubbard
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ltd]
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ltd said:
fuck L ron hubbard
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Re: The best band ever? [Re: ltd]
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ltd said:
someone should move this thread to tune town
Negative, Tool > Tune Town and as such it should remain in TSL
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I don't know if anyone posted this or not, but..
RIP Bradley..
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