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Re: N00B Test. [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
    #374830 - 02/27/10 07:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Marijuana is...

A) a dicot

B) a monocot

C) a bicot

D) the bomb diggity

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: DJ_avocado]
    #374836 - 02/27/10 07:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374841 - 02/27/10 07:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD



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But, for the noobies out there, and to try to stick to my name, I'm going with "A".

Follow up question: What is the difference between a dicot and a monocot plant?

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #374848 - 02/27/10 08:04 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Good follow up question!

Anybody?:shrug:

There are no stupid answers...:grin:

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #374849 - 02/27/10 08:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Or you can ask how knowing such things can help improve someones cultivation knowledge/skill.  That's what i'd like to know.  this shouldn't be a 'lets see how technical we can all get' question thread.  but that's just, you know, my opinion man.


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Re: N00B Test. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374851 - 02/27/10 08:06 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Or you can ask how knowing such things can help improve someones cultivation knowledge/skill.  That's what i'd like to know.  this shouldn't be a 'lets see how technical we can all get' question thread.  but that's just, you know, my opinion man.



lol thats why I havent been answering.

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374856 - 02/27/10 08:11 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Very good point my friend. This is not "lets learn about marijuana, the plant." No, this is "Lets learn how to grow marijuana, the plant."

Sorry about that Furrow: I just thought some people should know what they are growing, in terms of where Mary fits into the Plantae kingdom...but its not really important for cultivation, as you said.

I got another one: What does N-P-K stand for?

If that's too easy, What is the recommend N-P-K ratio for a soil plant that is 1 week old (from germination)? That is 2 weeks old? And is the ratios/concentrations different for hydro growing?

Hows that FBizzle?
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Edited by TrueHerbCrystal (02/27/10 08:16 PM)

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374857 - 02/27/10 08:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Not really that technical. Di-cot = 2-cotyledons.

Referring to a plants embryonic leaves.

Which ironically are the leaves that contain the tissue in my question.

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #374860 - 02/27/10 08:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Nitrogen Phosphorus Potassium.

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: Triptonic]
    #374863 - 02/27/10 08:18 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Triptronic: +1 in points.

Current total: Unknown....

Anyone keepin' score?
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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal] * 1
    #374866 - 02/27/10 08:23 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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TrueHerbCrystal said:
Quote:

Harry_Ba11sach said:
DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD



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But, for the noobies out there, and to try to stick to my name, I'm going with "A".

Follow up question: What is the difference between a dicot and a monocot plant?

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Nobody answered this? aww that makes me sad, I'll try and do it from memory, although general biology was some time ago

Eudicots-

taproot structure
branching vascular tissue in leaves
petiole vascular structure arranged in a ring
2 Cotyledons (of course)

Monocots-

Singular cotyledon
roots structured in a fibrous clump (lacking taproot)
parallel vascular tissue in leafs
thin, narrow leaves (usually)
flower petals in multiples of three
vascular tissue scattered throughout stem, not ringlike.

hmm... don't think I missed anything....


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Re: N00B Test. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374873 - 02/27/10 08:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That's pretty much it, but you did miss something: the amount of petals on the flower....

Dicots (Eudicots)*

Have 3 or 5 petals on flower.

Monocots*

Have 2 or 4 petals on flower.

*Note: Not all dicots and monocots grow flowers (aka are angiosperms). Ex: a pine tree (a gymnosperm).
And is the marijuana bud really considered a flower? Why is it considered a flower? (a noob question maybe?)

But thanks for the Anser Harry Nutz
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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #374876 - 02/27/10 08:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think you have that backwards actually. Monocots have petals in multiples of 3 or 5 and Dicotomous angiosperms have petals in multiples of 4 (even number of cotyledons = even number of petals). I included that for monocots but I suppose I forgot to include it for Eudicots.

oh well, not too bad for citing from memory. Good catch!


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Re: N00B Test. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374884 - 02/27/10 08:48 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Oops, I did get it backwords...my bad!

So, on Mary's, is the leaves around the bud considered the flower's "petals"?

But it wouldn't make sense for MJ leaves have 5 petals or 7 petals and MJ is a dicot....Hmmm...

Harry, Can ya help a brotha out?

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Edited by TrueHerbCrystal (02/27/10 08:52 PM)

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #374885 - 02/27/10 08:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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But it wouldn't make sense for MJ leaves have 5 petals or 7 petals and MJ is a sicot....Hmmm...


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Like I said its referring to the embryonic leaves containing the meristematic tissue.

THe cells can be used for any cell in the plant because the have no specification.

The word is used to classify plants with similar characteristics.

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal] * 1
    #374887 - 02/27/10 08:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

well in the family cannabaceae the flowers are actinomorphic (radially symmetrical), but lack petals because they are wind pollinated and don't require showy displays of color to attract pollinators. As far as I understand they don't have any petals (or corolla if you want to get fancy) whatsoever. :shrug:


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Re: N00B Test. [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #374888 - 02/27/10 08:52 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

My aunt asked me the same thing.  I just told her it's not the typical flower that she's thinking of.  If it is the reproductive organ of the plant, it is the flower.  Despite what it may look like.

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: DoPeYsMuRf]
    #374891 - 02/27/10 08:55 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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DoPeYsMuRf said:
Quote:

TrueHerbCrystal said:


But it wouldn't make sense for MJ leaves have 5 petals or 7 petals and MJ is a sicot....Hmmm...


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Like I said its referring to the embryonic leaves containing the meristematic tissue.

THe cells can be used for any cell in the plant because the have no specification.

The word is used to classify plants with similar characteristics.




If I remember correctly there are only two points of meristematic tissue within a seed right? The apical meristem between the cotyledons which becomes the growth point for the first set of true leaves, and another meristem which becomes the point of cell unspecified cell division for root growth. the cotyledons themselves are not actually meristematic tissue


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Re: N00B Test. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374893 - 02/27/10 09:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

DoPeYsMuRf said:
Like I said its referring to the embryonic leaves containing the meristematic tissue.

THe cells can be used for any cell in the plant because the have no specification.

The word is used to classify plants with similar characteristics.




If I remember correctly there are only two points of meristematic tissue within a seed right? The apical meristem between the cotyledons which becomes the growth point for the first set of true leaves, and another meristem which becomes the point of cell unspecified cell division for root growth.
The cotyledons themselves are not actually meristematic tissue.




I think the only word that comes to mind is....

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Re: N00B Test. [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374903 - 02/27/10 09:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I've heard it both ways but I tend to clump it all together.



Cotyledons contain hormones such as cytokinins, which regulate cellular differentiation and embryonic organ formation.

There's 2 sources of the apical meristem, lateral growth from shoots and roots alike. Only obviously 1 goes up the other goes down.

Then there's the lateral meristem, which provides girth growth.

Edited by DoPeYsMuRf (02/27/10 09:25 PM)

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