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Re: A question just popped into my freaking head man!!!!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374273 - 02/26/10 06:59 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

FB, I do not know how much fertilizing you do in the final weeks of flowering, but if you have never done a proper flush, I would highly recommend you give it a try on your next grow.  Especially if you are using synthetic chemical fertilizers (the whole "organic ferts taste better" argument may be a farce anyways).  I think you will be very happy with the results.  I am not doubting that you thought your unflushed buds tasted good, but that if you flush, they will be better and worth the effort.  This is one of the things that home growers can implement that often doesn't take place in commercial grows, and that goes for fruits and vegetables as well. 

I admit, I do not know for fact that there would be residual fertilizer left in the bud after a proper dry and cure.  However, I think the consensus from experienced growers is that there is, and in a major way.  Supposedly, Nitrogen adversely affects taste the most in finished bud, and naturally if you know what you are doing growing cannabis, you are not pumping too much N into your plant in the latter stages of flowering.  But flushing the growing medium and removing fertilizers during the final 2 weeks (1 week in hydro) forces the plant to spend all the stored nutrients in it's tissues.  At this point the grower should not be worried about any kind of deficiency, because essentially what you want the plant to do is die. 

The reason products like Clearex are made is that they help encourage the plant to carry out this process of using up it's stored nutrients, in addition to leeching out toxic salts as it runs through the medium.  Were you to just give the plant plain water for the pre-harvest flush, albeit a good thing, after a couple waterings the plant would "sense" that it is not getting the food it is used to and will start to slow down its "metabolism" so to speak.  Flushing agents trick the plant into thinking it is getting a low dose of nutrients, and the plant keeps it's "metabolism" high and continues to use up what is left in it's tissues despite no additional ferts being added. 

My first grow I didn't flush, and I thought the bud tasted pretty good.  I could definitely sense a chemically/fertilizer bitter taste, though.  I have a friend who still stubbornly refuses to flush due to laziness IMO, and I think the taste from his bud exhibits the same chemical taste I tasted in my first harvest. 

In my honest opinion if you want top notch bud, you must flush.

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Re: A question just popped into my freaking head man!!!!!! [Re: dutc2006]
    #374282 - 02/26/10 07:08 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Sorry for double posting, but I thought I would share my thoughts on the pollination thing. 
In my experience, once a plant has been pollinated, the pollinated buds start to slow down calyx formation while the seed grows.  This results in a loss in yield, but I don't think potency necessarily has to be affected.  I guess it also depends when the plant was pollinated in it's flowering cycle and to what extent it was pollinated (i.e. how many buds were pollinated).  I have seen some people argue that one of the trichome's natural purposes is protection, and specifically protection of the seed bract, and that pollinated bud may produce more trichomes.  I haven't seen this from experience, my pollinated plants just happened to be poor producers in yield and potency.

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Re: A question just popped into my freaking head man!!!!!! [Re: dutc2006]
    #374296 - 02/26/10 07:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Oh man, i didn't have a choice in not doing the flush.  I was forced to cut my flowering time short due to scares and an inspection.  I had planned on doing a flush.  I wouldn't recommend not doing one, but i was surprised that the buds didn't taste terrible while not having a flush period.  inverted can comment on it too as he tried em out.  well, once the seed starts to develop the trichs surrounding that calyx have done their jobs - protecting the calyx and pistils from being damaged by pests.  it works just the opposite as im sure you know.  a primary driving factor in the development of trichs is extreme sexual frustration.  obviously, if a plant you want to be sensimilla is producing seeds you can reasonably conclude that the production of those seeds is a diversion of the plants resources that you would want to be placed in the act of extreme sexual frustration which would be the trichs and calyx formation.


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Re: A question just popped into my freaking head man!!!!!! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374305 - 02/26/10 07:33 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Right on brother!:thumbup:

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Re: A question just popped into my freaking head man!!!!!! [Re: FarBeyondDriven]
    #374834 - 02/27/10 07:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

For the longest time, I thought "mids" meant ""medium-grade" weed, like exactly between swag and dank. In other words, Average buds, nothing special but still good enough to get you high.

And know you're saying that "mids" are budz with seeds in them. I'm confused...why are they called "mids" then? Why aren't they called something more LogicaL, like "seeded nugz" or "unpopped popcorn".

Can any explain that to me?

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Re: A question just popped into my freaking head man!!!!!! [Re: TrueHerbCrystal]
    #374838 - 02/27/10 07:54 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

your first line is correct as far as I am concerned.  mids should still be sinsemilla.  for the most part anyway.  I've found seeds in some really good herb before.  but who knows where that pollen came from.  seeds are only prominent in schwag imo.


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