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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #324274 - 12/01/09 01:11 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

BOOKS!!!!


Jorge Cervantes book to be exact.  Indoor Marijuana Horticulture.  Best overall book for a new grower to get.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #324293 - 12/01/09 01:46 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Here's some pics. Really just for the hell of it, because everyone love pictures, but maybe you can tell me what I'm doing wrong from these... I'm kinda clueless... hence the questions.



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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #324381 - 12/01/09 05:50 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

They don't really look that bad.  How long have they been in flowering??


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #324386 - 12/01/09 06:09 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Lasereyes,
If it's not too late to veg the plant out some more, it would love a burst of nitrogen (after flushing). My plant was decimated by caterpillas, phosphorus deficient and turning light green/yellow. I gave it some Nitrogen in a water soluble fert. for 3-4 days / 1 or 2 watering can a day.

It virtually greened up my plant back to life (new branches and all).

Then turn the lights up or whatever you indoor growers do to increase light hours.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #324415 - 12/01/09 10:38 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

It has been on 12/12 for 22 days. I really have no idea if I could veg it more at this stage since flowering has begun. I'm still not 100% sure on how going from flowering back to vegging would work out.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #324431 - 12/01/09 11:10 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Keep going forward.  Those plants do not look that bad.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Azyle00]
    #324440 - 12/01/09 11:27 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Should I not be worried that there has been hardly any new growth in a week?

Edit: what ratios should I be looking for in a fert to be used for flowering? I know I need higher levels of phosphorus but what about nitrogen and potassium?


Edited by lasereyes (12/01/09 11:41 AM)


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #324923 - 12/02/09 12:05 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Fox Farm Tiger Bloom is a good one to use.

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/products_liqfert2.html


Also Kool Bloom is an additive I've used with success in the past.


http://www.planetnatural.com/site/kool-bloom-hydroponic-nutrient.html


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #325693 - 12/02/09 11:24 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Alright, I'm thinking I was worried about nutrient lock for no reason. I did a flush two days ago with 1 gallon of water. Plant seems to be growing perhaps a bit better. I think that the plant wasn't in full "flower mode" yet. Since I flushed the soil the plant seems to be forming true colas (smaller fan leaves, more tricomes and more dense buds). Like I said, I've never done this, cannabis is so much different than any other plant I've grown. There is so much to learn it's insane. Much more complicated than mushrooms or cacti.

I gotta admit, it's a ton of fun. I really wanna figure out some way to conceal a 400w HPS. I don't think I'd be able to hide it though. If anything I might try a 200w CFL grow.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #330574 - 12/13/09 02:30 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

This update actually comes with no problems. Growth during flowering seems to have picked up a bit since I changed to a 8-15-10 fertilizer. Once the plant got into flowering it almost seemed to have quit growing until I changed to a higher phosphorous fertilizer(previous was high in nitrogen).  It's still growing VERY slow though, which sucks because I have to start flushing her in about 7 days. The addition of a bunch more CFLs made a big difference in density of buds. I wish I could flower it longer but I am leaving town for 2 weeks for Christmas. I'd probably flower it for another month or so but no dice on that. No one I can trust to take care of it. Lamesauce I say.

Anyway, here's the picture update on how she's looking now.


Not too bad for a half-assed effort IMO. I really want to do HPS for flowering on my next try. I might be moving soon so that may be a possibility.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #332524 - 12/16/09 11:22 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Took an early sample of the crop tonight and was quite impressed. It's a very relaxing high but not enough to knock you out. Listening to music is orgasmic right now. Rocking some 311.

Anyway, I decided to get all artsy fartsy and take some pics of the plant with the lights on. Here's some update pics:



I'm getting a bit of the leaves curling under. Switched to a new fertilizer and it was tough to judge the strength of it, over fertilized. Either way, I'm flushing her now. Gotta harvest next week :frown:

I talked to some friends tonight that want cuttings though, so I may be able to grow this strain out to it's full potential someday. It's just starting to smell REALLY fruity. It's to the point I can smell it when I walk into the front door of my building. Luckily everyone in the building is cool with it and is excited (or just doesn't care) to see what the finished product is like.  :rockon:


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: lasereyes]
    #332550 - 12/17/09 01:22 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

I think I see nanners in those pics!


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: ASEgrower]
    #332554 - 12/17/09 01:33 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Uhh, like as in their trying to seed themselves??  If so which pic??  I see something "maybe" suspicious in the last one.  But other than that I don't really see what your talking about.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #332647 - 12/17/09 09:31 AM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Yeah I'm curious what he means by nanners too. I see nothing that resembles bananas other than the curled leaves.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #332726 - 12/17/09 12:51 PM (9 years, 11 months ago)

Quote:

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Uhh, like as in their trying to seed themselves??  If so which pic??  I see something "maybe" suspicious in the last one.  But other than that I don't really see what your talking about.



That last picture looks a little suspicious.  I couldbt say for sure, but it looks like a male pollen sac in the pic.


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Re: First time growing, question about vegging and preflowering [Re: ASEgrower]
    #333564 - 12/19/09 01:05 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Nope, no pollen sack, just small curled up leaf.

Alright, I have a debate on my hands. In case you haven't been following this grow, I'm going to have to harvest come Wednesday because I'm leaving town. She really needs probably another month of flowering but I gotta do what I gotta do.

Now here's the debate: should I dry the buds quickly and start curing them that day or should I just let them hang upside down drying for the two weeks that I'm away? Keep in mind the buds are smaller and not incredibly compact since this is a CFL grow. The place they will be dried is incredibly dry, maybe 20-30% humidity if I'm lucky. What would you do?


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Re: First time growing, almost done... a few more questions (Updated 12/19/09 w/ pics) [Re: lasereyes]
    #333773 - 12/19/09 11:00 PM (9 years, 10 months ago)

The question I posted earlier about harvest/drying/curing I still need an answer to, but here are some pics of her today:



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Re: First time growing, almost done... a few more questions (Updated 12/19/09 w/ pics) [Re: lasereyes]
    #334367 - 12/21/09 07:16 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

you'll want to dry for at least 5 days. the longer the dry, the smoother the smoke. as far as curing goes, this is very helpful.

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coda said:
Drying is directly related to the Rh of your area that you dry in.  Higher Rh means a slower drying time due to the moisture in the air.  The more arid your drying area is the faster your buds will dry.

That being said a slower drying period is much preferred.  This allows any sugars in the buds to be converted into terpenes, allows the chlorophyll to leach out, and allows for a smoother smoke.  Generally you want your drying area to be around 25-35% RH (you can go higher but it requires more attention for bud rot), and you want your drying period to be at least a week.  You want to hear a nice audible *SNAP* when you break the stems.  Personally i try and crack the stems nearest to the buds, thicker stalks will take longer to dry so your bud may be dry before the stem.  A better way to check is to snap the stem within the bud.  If that snaps you know your bud is dry enough for the jars.

If your stems aren't dry enough to snap when bent then your bud isn't dry enough for jars.  The excess moisture within the buds will build up too quickly in your jars and you'll wake up to cobweb covered nuggets.  To fix this i would take a small paper bag and fill it no more then 2/3rds of the way full.  Crimp the top of the bag.  Then let it sit for a few more days making sure to open the bag and move the buds around at least once a day.  Once your stems snap cleanly and the buds are nice and crispy are you able to toss them in a jar.  Once they're in the jar i would open them once when you get up, move the buds around, and let the jar stand open for 10-15 mins.  Then, before you go to bed, repeat the process.




from this thread.

you're going to want to make sure your bud dries properly, although i know time is an issue, which is too bad. do you absolutely HAVE to harvest? there is no way you can set up some sort of drip system for water and put your lights on a timer while you're gone? for both drying and curing you want to pay attention to what is happening with your bud.


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Re: First time growing, almost done... a few more questions (Updated 12/19/09 w/ pics) [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #335394 - 12/23/09 02:14 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Slother, thanks a lot. I harvested tonight. After trimming it all up (god damn I had to clean the scissors like 3 times, really sticky stuff), I think I might end up with maybe half an ounce max, not bad considering the halfassed effort I put into it. I do have a bunch of cuttings for edibles though :smile:

Hopefully next time I decide to grow I will be able to use the proper lights or at least upgrade my shitty set up. I hate halfassing things and prefer to go all out if possible.

Sorry though, no pics of harvest, I'm pressed for time so couldn't do that. Buds are all hung up to dry in a really inconvenient place to take pictures. I'll get pics of the dried buds once I get back in town.


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Re: First time growing, almost done... a few more questions (Updated 12/19/09 w/ pics) [Re: lasereyes]
    #335751 - 12/24/09 12:29 AM (9 years, 10 months ago)

Oh man. I quick dried some of the final product last night and smoked with a friend who is a all day every smoker but smokes what I would call schwag all day. After one bowl we were so stoned we kept forgetting what we were saying mid-sentence and had issues speaking coherently.

Today I was talking to him and he said "I was fucking amazed that you can just grow something that ridiculously potent just in a pot with soil in a spare room. I thought you had to have a hydro set up or a degree in botany for that shit."

Surprise, surprise motherfucker :grin:

Great success :borat:


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