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 Flowering Problem please help 
#373236 - 02/25/10 09:10 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Any and all experienced growers I need your opinions. So here is my situation. Im doing my first grow right now. It was from a seed in a bag of mids I found. Anyways seems well so far. Plant is a little more then 6 inches tall. Here is a link to my grow log for pictures. http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/371797
Anyways So heres my situation. The biggger plant in the pictures sprouted 2/5/10. Due to a strict time limit this plant needs to be done and out my house by lets just say 4/10/10. Its somewhere around there I want it gone early for safety, but I dont need to go into detail on that. Anyways thats a little less then a month and a half away. And I got a 6 inch plant. When should I start the flowering period to ensure it has enough time to flower. Now I know Im not gonna get the full potential out of this plant but I just want to get the best out of it I can now.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373245 - 02/25/10 09:32 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Switch to flowering immediately. You can actually 12/12 a plant right from seed. The idea behind vegging is to allow the plant to get large. Large plant = large yield. Flowering can really begin whenever you want.
However, due to your time restrictions, even if this was a 100% indica and only needed 7-8 weeks to flower, that still leaves you with not enough time. If you switch to flowering now, you may have some smokeable herb by the 10th.
Keep in mind that the bud must also be dried and cured. A process that normally takes an additional 2-3 weeks. This is actually quite important too.
Just for giggles I would finish off the plant and see what you end up with. What else can you do? 
Hopefully this will be a good learning experience for you too. Planning is key. Remember that.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: TomCollins]
#373387 - 02/25/10 02:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Drying and curing is not a problem. Just can't have a living plant by that date. Anyways I just setup a better box around my grow area so there are no light leaks. Someone told me I should put the plant in darkness for 48 hours first to trigger the flowering. Do you suggest this?? Also, is there really anything I need to switch to flowering besides change my lights. Or is that it? Thanks for the help
oh btw again im very new but from my pictures is it possible to tell what kind of my plant mine is. Sativa, indica, etc.
Edited by screekrunner (02/25/10 02:26 PM)
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373405 - 02/25/10 03:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I don't think you need that, I would toss in some bood blood with the next watering to get flowering kickstarted
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373406 - 02/25/10 03:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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that product shaves 2 weeks off your flowering time and keeps your plant shorter. It's expensive, but it's your only hope if you're looking for a plant to be ready for harvest by the 10th of April.
good luck 
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#373417 - 02/25/10 03:38 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Harry_Ba11sach said:
that product shaves 2 weeks off your flowering time and keeps your plant shorter. It's expensive, but it's your only hope if you're looking for a plant to be ready for harvest by the 10th of April.
good luck
Thanks. Any ideas on where to find this stuff
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373425 - 02/25/10 03:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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every hydro store? 
or just the internet. that's the best help I can give, I doubt you'll ever find it at home depot or anything if that's what you mean
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373434 - 02/25/10 04:24 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just got off the phone with my local hydro store. They got it. Looks like ill be making a trip there tomorrow thanks
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373436 - 02/25/10 04:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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No problem man, good luck!
Are you familiar with how to apply it? it's a very sensitive additive that you'll want to be careful with so you don't burn down your whole crop. I can let you know the best way to go about that if you need
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#373442 - 02/25/10 04:36 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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That would probably be best. Thanks for your help btw. This is my first grow and probably my only for at least 6 months till I live on my own. So I'm going to be so excited if I actually get smokable bud off this thing. Im using an aerogarden as you see. Right now im trying to look up how much water my aerogarden holds, im assuming thats important information. Anyways also should the 4oz bottle be enough. Thats 20 then 8oz is 35. So cheapers best assuming its enough. Also keep in mind I moved that small plant in the pictures you see in my log into the aerogarden now. It would be great if I could flower maybe a bowl full of bud off the tiny little thing lol, but if this bushmaster stuff is going to kill my small plant im okay with that.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373449 - 02/25/10 04:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Of course brotha, helping is my hobby! I did my first grow once too, and without people giving me some gentle guidance and assistance my plant wouldn't have come out nearly as nice as it did.
anyhow, down to business-
the 4oz will be enough to last you for years my friend! The application rate is 1ml per gallon, and you only run it for 2-3 days. firstly, NO other nutrients in your aero garden while this is running. like, NONE. this is the most important part.... just use plain water (bottled would be safest even) with 1ml (or even a little less to be safe) of bushmaster per gallon. if you can raise your light on the aerogarden then I would go ahead and do that too, but with the CFLs you should be fine if you can't.
Then, after 3 days of the bushmaster in your reservoir switch back to nutrients, but step up slowly back to your current strength. give her 2 days of 1/4 strength nutes, 2 days of 1/2 strength, and then try a full strength solution.
This stuff causes a MASSIVE uptake of nutrients so you need to keep a very close eye on your plant for the first couple days of this treatment. If you see any signs of nutrient burn then change your res water to plain water with NO bushmaster immediately. same thing after the treatment, if you step her up to 1/4 strength nutes and notice any burn whatsoever, immediately get rid of the water and replace with pure H2O for another day.
I know that all sounds very intimidating and dangerous but it's very safe to use and yields amazing results if you do it right. I've got faith in your skills, post pics and ask questions if you have any worries whatsoever!
good luck!
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373466 - 02/25/10 04:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay so first to clear things up, by pure h2o. Do you mean just tap water, cause thats what I have been using. Also im not sure what a nutrient burn even is. But to get things straight I need to empty my water resevouir completely and then fill with new water and add however much of this stuff I need (still cant figure out what my damn garden holds lol). Then after 3 days empty my water resovouir again and put new water in and start with 1/4 nutrients. All that sound correct. Also with the aerogarden I put these two white tablets in once every two weeks. So should I simply just cut a tablet in half put that in the day I switch back to nutrients. Then two days later put another half tablet in. Then after two more days drop the second tablet in so im back up to my full nutrients.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373470 - 02/25/10 05:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yes sir, sounds like you're right on track
nutrient burn is simply when the plant gets overloaded with food and starts to burn. 
as for figuring out what your garden holds, I wouldn't worry about it. just find an empty milk jug and put 1ml of the Bushmaster into the jug and then fill with water. Pour as much into your garden as you need, doesn't matter how much you use because it's all at the correct concentration, and then you don't have to go messing around with measuring 1/3 of a ml if your garden only holds 1/3 gal. see what I mean?
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373475 - 02/25/10 05:10 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Good point there on the mixing idea. Well sounds like I should be good. Only one last question. My lights have been on since day 1. I was going to being flowering at midnight tonight. Should I wait till tomorrow and not start flowering though until I have the bushmaster in my water. Or does it not matter when I put the bushmaster in?
btw u registered on 4/20. lol thats hilarious
Edited by screekrunner (02/25/10 05:11 PM)
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#373984 - 02/26/10 08:23 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Haha yeah, 4/20 was the first day this website existed! The Growery started as an offshoot of the Shroomery and I was a member over there before this site existed, so on the grand opening I ran over here and registered. 
I'd say you can start flowering whenever you want. The directions say to use it for your first couple days of flowering so if you started flowering them today or tonight and add the bushmaster tomorrow that would be perfect. Sorry I didn't get back to you last night so you could flip the lights at midnight... hopefully you did anyway
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#373995 - 02/26/10 09:09 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's a shame you will have to flower her so small but hopefully with harry's magic juice you will get some decent smoke and come in ahead of deadline.At least next time you have a chance to plug that areogarden back in you should be growing some nice smoke. I am definitely going to follow this close over the next few days and see how that stuff works. 2 weeks off flowering time would be great for me since I only do 2 at a time 
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: pha3r0]
#374022 - 02/26/10 10:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I figured since I was going to buy it in the morning might as well start lol. So yes I started flowering and I'm about to go get this stuff. And ya ill definitely keep updates with pictures on how this stuff works. I'm sure it can be good help for other people.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374041 - 02/26/10 11:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok I got the stuff one question though. Are you sure about just using 1ml per gallon. Cause it says on the bottle 2.5-7.5ml per gallon
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374046 - 02/26/10 11:53 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's strain dependant, some strains can handle 3ml and be okay, but some can't even handle a drop. I'm recommending 1ml cause I would absolutely hate to see you burn down your only little girl 
I've never heard of anyone using 7.5ml though... I don't think there's a plant on earth that would survive that.
the best part about it though is that you'll get the same results with 1ml/gal as you will with 3-4. no reason to push it IMO
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374048 - 02/26/10 12:00 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok. I trust you, you have used this stuff yourself right? I just wanted to make sure I'm going to go start mixing the water now
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374051 - 02/26/10 12:03 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Actually I have to be honest, I haven't used bushmaster myself but one of my growing buddies has. I've personally used the other two from the trio, called PurpleMaxx/snowstorm and Gravity. All three are equally potent and similar application instructions so I feel confident in my advice here.
Just remember, every strain is different, keep a close eye on her for the next couple hours
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#374052 - 02/26/10 12:14 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay. Its done! Now since a few of my newer pot leaves were starting to die like the bottom ones, should this stop that now also??
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374053 - 02/26/10 12:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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oooooo no.... it's not a miracle cure for cannabis. What do you mean the newer leaves were dying like the old ones? can you post a picture?
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374055 - 02/26/10 12:25 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you go to my log you will see in the pictures I posted in my first post that my lowest set of pot leaves has shriveled up and mostly died. Well the past few days its started to happen to one upper set of pot leaves, just not as much yet. If you scroll to the bottom of my log you can see new pictures I posted of that starting to happen. And that's what I'm talking about.
http://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/371797
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374185 - 02/26/10 04:44 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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hmm, looks okay to me, maybe just a tad underfed. your newest growth looks fine, it looks to me like the problem is on the lowest leaves and working it's way up which is a sign of not enough food IME.
Wait until after this treatment and then give her some food. Cannabis is far hungrier than what the aerogarden was intended for so that's likely your problem
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#374194 - 02/26/10 04:51 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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also, how's she look after a couple hours of Bushmaster?
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374326 - 02/26/10 07:57 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Shes looking good, getting quite bushy in the middle. I can't now but ill try to get a new picture soon
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374438 - 02/26/10 11:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay picture coming tomorrow when the lights are back on. I was barely able to see her today after I put the bushmaster in but when I did check leaves where good. So I'm hoping to be amazed tomorrow morning by how much she grew. So how many days would you expect it to take till I can really be sure if its a male or female now??
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#374440 - 02/26/10 11:29 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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She won't grow with the bushmaster. that's the main thing that product is designed for, it eliminates the stretch of the plant so that you can veg for longer and still keep them short. The shortening of flowering time is just a byproduct - if the plant doesn't spend 2 weeks stretching and growing taller then it goes straight into flowering mode and reduces the total time until harvest.
Don't worry, by next week you'll see pistils and be surprised with how pretty she is
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#374444 - 02/26/10 11:42 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay. But if she doesn't get bigger then wouldn't that mean less bud?
oh and btw just curious I also have that like 3inch plant flowering. It has 2 sets of tiny leaves. You think it will yield anything?
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#375053 - 02/28/10 09:17 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here are some pictures from yesterday
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#375070 - 02/28/10 09:46 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay. But if she doesn't get bigger then wouldn't that mean less bud?
oh and btw just curious I also have that like 3inch plant flowering. It has 2 sets of tiny leaves. You think it will yield anything?
Omg, please read the posts people post in your thread.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: TomCollins]
#375129 - 02/28/10 11:05 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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screekrunner said:
Okay. But if she doesn't get bigger then wouldn't that mean less bud?
oh and btw just curious I also have that like 3inch plant flowering. It has 2 sets of tiny leaves. You think it will yield anything?
Omg, please read the posts people post in your thread.
I'm not even going to say what I would like to say. But you need to learn some respect
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#375137 - 02/28/10 11:16 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I'm not even going to say what I would like to say. But you need to learn some respect
Well excuse me sir. I'm sorry if you were offended by my post but just who do you think you are telling me what I should and shouldn't do? Who do you think you are telling anyone they need to learn some respect? How are you so important that I am obligated to respect you, when you show no courtesy in even reading my posts that I posted to try and help you?
You asked a question that I have already answered in the same thread.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: TomCollins]
#375179 - 02/28/10 12:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Anyways besides that. Plants looking good so far today as well. No sign of nutrient burning whatsoever
Im going to remove the bushmaster tomorrow afternoon and slowly start getting nutrients back in
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#379300 - 03/06/10 10:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is an update on what the plant looks like since I have used the bushmaster dose. Seems to be helping. Or would you normally see the start of bud in 9 days and the plant not growing any taller while flowering so far.
Day 30 overall, Day 9 flowering
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#379504 - 03/07/10 02:05 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Why do you say you have a problem?
Everything looks fine to me, and for 9 days of flowering that is pretty incredible that the nodes are still that close! It is either due to a really Indica strain that doesn't stretch, or the Bushmaster really does work!
Or it could be a combination of both, but from all of my experience, especially using Fluorescents, that after 9 days of 12/12, the plant should have nearly doubled it's vertical height by now. Stretching slows after 14 days and usually comes to an end around ~21 days of flowering, when she settles into bud production and stops growing new vegetation (large fan leaves etc.)
I am anxious to see how this works out for you. Good Luck!
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Inverted]
#379506 - 03/07/10 02:09 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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By the way, I heard you mention using Aerogarden nutrients.
Can't you scrape together $5 and at least get some Schultz or other cheap Bloom fertilizer? The Shultz bloom was only 5 bucks and I found it at Home Depot. I used it for an outdoor grow and one indoor grow and it worked just fine for me, but obviously it's going to be better to step up to something a little more oriented toward Cannabis and Hydro systems.
If you really have no way of getting some let us know, I'm sure someone could donate a sample.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Inverted]
#379885 - 03/08/10 09:40 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you read my very first post you can see why I say I have a problem, its not really a problem anymore. But ya I could afford some cheap nutrients I'm sure. But I honestly just have absolutely no clue what to buy, I'm very new to this. If you could help me figure out what would be best to buy that's not to expensive though I'll go out and buy it today even. And to give you an idea of what I have access to I got home depot, you know the average stores. Then also I found this store in my town which is where I bought the bushmaster http://gehydroponics.com/
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#379889 - 03/08/10 10:08 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have a general hydroponics store in your town then go get some floranova bloom! You won be sad
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#379907 - 03/08/10 10:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have a general hydroponics store in your town then go get some floranova bloom! You won be sad
How exactly does it work and whats the price? Like does it do something special for the plant now that its flowering? And how would I apply this to my aerogarden since I already have nutrients in it. Would I empty my water reservoir and put new water in with the new nutrients? Thanks for the help btw
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#379933 - 03/08/10 10:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Here is a picture update.
Day 32 overall
Day 11 flowering
bigger plant is 7inches smaller is 3 inches.
Okay here is the pictures, first I figured I would show my overall setup. Its the aerogarden box with black trash bags to keep light out. Inside I have a small tower fan made for a desk.
Overall picture
Its beautiful
The middle is getting veryyyyy bushy
This small plant is flowering also, I wonder how much it will yield. Any guesses???
And just for fun all the roots from the big plant
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#379940 - 03/08/10 11:13 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have a general hydroponics store in your town then go get some floranova bloom! You won be sad
How exactly does it work and whats the price? Like does it do something special for the plant now that its flowering? And how would I apply this to my aerogarden since I already have nutrients in it. Would I empty my water reservoir and put new water in with the new nutrients? Thanks for the help btw
I'ts just specifically formulated for cannabis (although they never publicly state that, it's very obvious that it is). So providing your plant with the exact amounts of all the nutritious ions it requires to flower will make it put out far more weight and quality than just using generic nutrients designed for random herbs and veggies.
and yes, dump out your current water and add some of the floranova to a fresh batch. about 4-5ml per gallon would be my guess, but it could probably handle up to 6 or so. Can you show us a picture of the root system so we can see how developed it is?
Also, how strong is your light? the stronger the light the more food you can give your plant, and the more you will yield
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#379955 - 03/08/10 11:29 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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There are two 26w 120v 60hz lights
Here are some more root pictures
   
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#379956 - 03/08/10 11:31 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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yeah I would think those could handle a full strength feeding, around 5-6ml/gallon or so. once again keep an eye on them to make sure it's not too much food but they should be good.
Adding more light will be greatly beneficial too if you can afford it.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#379962 - 03/08/10 11:39 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Well I was able to add two 13 watt cfls during veg that were just lamps around my house, but with the way I got everything setup I can't really fit it in there now that I have everything light proofed.
Just a couple of questions. First on this page it shows two floranovas. Which is the correct one?? https://877gehydro.com/nutrients/hydroponic/FloraNova.php
Also do you happen to know if they normally sell smaller cheaper bottles. Cause I may only use it once in which case I really can't afford a $30 bottle. Thanks for the help man
Oh ya btw you say it looks like my roots can handle a full dose. Does that mean smaller plants cant handle it. Will my small plant be okay. If you can tell in that picture with the ruler the roots are 8inches long
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#379966 - 03/08/10 11:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have a general hydroponics store in your town then go get some floranova bloom! You won be sad
And I have no idea what the smallest bottle they sell at your store is
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#379967 - 03/08/10 11:43 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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If you have a general hydroponics store in your town then go get some floranova bloom! You won be sad
And I have no idea what the smallest bottle they sell at your store is
Hey I just edited my last post then wen I finished editing I noticed you already replied. Just if u could reread my last post if you don't mind, I had a concern for my small plant
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#379979 - 03/08/10 11:51 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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honestly I have no idea how your smaller plant will handle it, but the general rule is that giving them more light means they can handle more nutes My guess is that it will be fine, but like I said, keep an eye on it and if it starts to look unhappy then you should dilute your solution a little
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
#379984 - 03/08/10 11:58 AM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks for all the help sorry I keep asking more questions. But I just called my store here they got it, but only in quarts and gallons. Do you have any other suggestions for nutrients. I'm hoping to either find some cheaper ones or something that comes in a smaller container since I only need like 10ml's after all
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: screekrunner]
#380176 - 03/08/10 04:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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I would not recommend FloraNova for him.
He's probably not going to need anything that spectacular, I mean that's literally recommending the top of the line product for a first timer...
Not very logical, especially since he only has 2 tiny plants. I would just get some regular bloom fertilizer, unless you wanted to shell out 2-5x as much money and get something from the hydro store.
Look for this. It is what I used when I was completely broke and couldn't afford Fox Farms or General Hydro nutrients (top of the line) and it worked just fine. I have honestly not even noticed any differences as of yet, but that may change nearer to harvest time.
It was about $5 and I still have 3/4 of it left after 3 years.
But if you feel like you are going to keep growing consistently from here on out, and are going to try to upgrade your setup and make a hobby out of this, then I would recommend getting FloraNova Grow and Bloom.
I have some of both, and they were $27/each at the hydro store, I know, Ouch!
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Inverted]
#380180 - 03/08/10 04:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Ok well I read all of you and Harry's posts now, and since you only need it this one time I would DEFINITELY try to find something like I posted above.
Ditch the Aerogarden nutrient pucks, they are probably doing more harm than good at this point. Just go ask someone at a store if you are really that clueless as to what you need. I hate to break the news but with that lighting, you are going to be lucky to harvest anything worth smoking. Buds WILL grow, but they may be extremely airy, and might take a loooooooong time to finish. I know I sound like an  but it's the honest truth. I'd say you will probably get 1-3 grams of dried bud.
I've seen people remove the top (light) of the AG before and hang their own CFL rigs above it and get much better finished results.
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Re: Flowering Problem please help [Re: Inverted]
#381318 - 03/10/10 02:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago) |
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Okay I'm looking into the lights and nutrients. But I got a question. My plant is really starting to bud well now. But I have noticed in the middle of my plant where most the bud forms there are some small branches with just one leaf. They have no bud on them. Can I just cut them off to trim up the plant so more light can reach the bud???
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