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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Picklez]
    #174082 - 01/01/09 06:33 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

they filter the questions because they want to prevent any true grassroots movement from occurring.

the movement behind obama was not grassroots. it was media inspired. once people saw on the tv that a black man had a chance, then they signed up. who was the front runner at the beginning? obama? tons of people trying to get him elected? no. it was all behind hilary. some kind of grassroots :whatever:

ending the federal reserve is probably the top reason i voted for ron paul. the federal reserve caused the great depression. the federal reserve is going to cause another great depression. the federal reserve is responsible for the boom and bust business cycle. the federal reserve is responsible for devaluing the dollar over 90 percent since 1913. does it make sense to you that 9 PRIVATELY owned commercial banks that have no official government standing loan money to the federal government on behalf of the treasury department AT INTEREST? why should the federal govt, which has the power under congress to coin and regulate money for itself, pay private corporations to issue currency? look into JFK's executive order 11110. even he apparently was against the federal reserve.
what's the number one federal expenditure? entitlements (ie welfare, social sec, unemployment, etc). what's number 2? paying interest on the national debt.

kp i know you're no fool, so please take a moment and look what is going on. if you follow the money, you see where the problems are, who causes them, and how to fix them.

www.mises.org
www.lewrockwell.com

just read a few articles on those sites about the fed. tons of great info on the greatest evil in our modern global society that is centralized banking.

in a year or two, don't be wondering why hyperinflation has set in. the reason is painfully clear: the 2 trillion dollars the fed as created since September has not yet come into circulation. once it does, you'll see prices rise so fast it'll make your head spin. keep this in mind: the policies instituted by FDR to combat the great depression have been shown to have prolonged and worsened the depression. letting the market correct itself is the fastest way to restart an economy. the ruling class knows as much about planning an economy as we do.

if we are to right ourselves in global standing, we must first change our foreign policy to one of non-meddling, and second end the fed. it won't be done on the internet bugging people entrenched in the medical-industrial complex to legalize something that would put them out of business. SAVE THE RHETORICAL BULLSHIT, HILARY RODHAM CLINTON, CUZ IT AINT GONNA FUCKIN HAPPEN.

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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #174103 - 01/01/09 09:01 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I think it comes down to just wanting to get certain things answered, you can see how those questions blast bush a lot.  It's all media inspired.


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #174382 - 01/02/09 02:50 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

you are ignorant as fuck

in my mind and everyone who isnt a racist, he won because he was the better option. not a flawless candidate but at the end of the day it was who majority of people thought would do a better job. and it was a landslide victory


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Picklez]
    #174385 - 01/02/09 02:52 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)



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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Picklez]
    #174387 - 01/02/09 02:54 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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you are ignorant as fuck

in my mind and everyone who isnt a racist, he won because he was the better option. not a flawless candidate but at the end of the day it was who majority of people thought would do a better job. and it was a landslide victory




why don't you actually debate and argue the issue then resort to just an insult?


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: THEBats]
    #174395 - 01/02/09 03:16 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

i had a real good response, but my computer crashed 3 times before i could post it so i'm giving up.

main line obamas fucking us and our country hails our destruction.


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If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.

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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #174398 - 01/02/09 03:19 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

he hasnt even been sworn in yet :rolleyes:


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Picklez]
    #174419 - 01/02/09 05:07 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

he's got a lot on his plate, stabilizing the middle east is necessary; pakistan & india are nuclear armed countries on the brink of war... again... for the fourth time.  isreal is bombing hamas in gaza, and we are raiding afghanistan after giving back the majority of Iraq to Iraq after 5 year occupancy riddled with death, conspiracies & dishonor.  And funny pictures.  And lost friends, and brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers.  So, if you donate just $0.35 a day to my not-for-profit organization we can battle breast cancer together.



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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Picklez]
    #174490 - 01/02/09 11:41 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

he hasn't needed to be sworn in.

his vote on the bailouts, as well as the FISA amendments and the Military Commissions Act has foreshadowed enough of his presidency for me.

sorry i'm pro freedom. i don't think it's right to spy on innocent people. i don't think it's right to forcefully take the money somebody has earned and distribute it ambiguously. i don't think it's right that the democrats were in a frenzy over torture under the bush administration, but now are all of a sudden silent and complicit.

The Who once said: "Meet the new boss, same as the old boss"
and i tend to agree.

sure, he might be somewhat different in his foreign policy, instead of iraq, lets fuck ourselves up in afghanistan. his monetary policy is a little different too: he'll spend a lot more of money we don't have.

i dont wanna beat this horse, cuz neither of us is going to change positions.

i'm just saying obama is not the solution as promised. i know this now. you will know this eventually.

that is all.


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If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.

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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #174498 - 01/03/09 12:09 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

He's better than George Bush. The Republican Party as a whole has spent the last 8 years destroying this country. Electing Obama was the best thing our country could do.

Unfortunately it will take much longer than 4 years to repair what Bush has created. But hopefully we can at least get on a path to rebuilding and stabilizing our economy and financial markets

On some positive news, as t0ad said, it was promising to see the US handing over control to Iraqi security forces in a move that the Iraqi parliament was very excited about. It must be pretty exciting for the Iraqi people as well to start taking back control of their country


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: Picklez]
    #174703 - 01/03/09 08:43 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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He's better than George Bush. The Republican Party as a whole has spent the last 8 years destroying this country. Electing Obama was the best thing our country could do.

Unfortunately it will take much longer than 4 years to repair what Bush has created. But hopefully we can at least get on a path to rebuilding and stabilizing our economy and financial markets

On some positive news, as t0ad said, it was promising to see the US handing over control to Iraqi security forces in a move that the Iraqi parliament was very excited about. It must be pretty exciting for the Iraqi people as well to start taking back control of their country






half way through the presidency, we had a full democratic house & senate.  Now, we have a very largely democratic house, senate and now president.  There's nothing stopping Obama from passing bills that he wants to pass, however redundant and expensive they may be.

When Clinton was president, the house and senate were a majority of Republican voters - bush was known never to really use his veto power except for a few times, while Clinton had veto'd many bills.  It's not just hte president who is in charge, or is at fault.  Let's look at the entirety of it.

Many of your democratic supporters & politicians voted to have the same things that  George Bush elected in his bills.  Why do you think any of that stuff was made into law?  Because the Democrats voted YES in a majority.  Dems want to keep the big EYE on you.  Cheney wants to keep the big eye on you.  Bush was just the middle man; the face, the one the point fingers at.

but the situation with Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Isreal/Gaza are going to be overwhelming for someone who has only had 1 term as a leader (and not a full term) in the senate; Joe Biden will be the ones to make all the military decisions, just like Cheney. He's in the committee of foreign relations, or related to it somehow if I remember correctly.

I agree w/ the who reference --- This country is headed for a police state; we need to end a lot of spying on US citizens. . . . . . .

Not only that, George Bush had also presided over us through the Tech bubble also, and the market recovered.  The Democrats are the ones who pushed for lower restrictions on house buying; just as much as republicans.  Once again, 2 out of 3 of the law making parts of our country voted in political majority for everything we see today.  Do not forget that and don't fall into the traps the media places for you.  The president is meaningly just a little more then the nations top general. 

he also dealt with the economic disaster that befell Katrina, and the backlash from lack of management on FEMA's side.  9/11 was a very disastrous time for our country, that lead to many of the bills you see enacted today.

Just because now the Dems control the majority in ALL the country, that doesnt mean things will get better, in fact I worry for the worse.

2012 baby, just think about it. lol


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: t0ad]
    #174737 - 01/03/09 10:42 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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2012 baby, just think about it. lol




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If everyone could do mushroom, yes, it would be a wonderful world. This will never be, only some can do mushrooms. It is the responsibility of those of us who see the world most clearly to pass the clarity on to those who cannot bare to wear our lenses.

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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: MistaUNGA]
    #174752 - 01/04/09 12:01 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

how old is ron paul?  hmmm I could google it. hmmm.


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: t0ad]
    #176424 - 01/07/09 01:12 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Not only that, George Bush had also presided over us through the Tech bubble also, and the market recovered.



It did? 

In January 2001, the Nasdaq Composite Index was at around 2800 (less than one year prior it had breached 5000).  Today the Nasdaq closed at 1652, about 40% lower than when Bush entered office, and almost 68% lower than its peak in 2000.

The S&P 500 index was at around 1350 in the beginning of 2001 (peaking at 1527 in 2000). Though the S&P did see a rally back to its high last year, it presently stands at 935, about 30% lower than when Bush entered office, and almost 39% lower than its peak in 2000. 

Bush has presided not over a sustained economic recovery, but one of the most serious economic collapses in modern time.


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[Bush] also dealt with the economic disaster that befell Katrina, and the backlash from lack of management on FEMA's side.  9/11 was a very disastrous time for our country, that lead to many of the bills you see enacted today.



Hardly anything from Katrina or 9/11 reflects positively on Mr. Bush so far as I've been able to gather.  I didn't vote for him in 2000 or 2004, but I was willing to give him time to prove himself.  Unfortunately, he only proved his incompetence and contempt for America's founding principles. 

As for Obama, maybe he will bring more of the same.. but how can you judge a man for a tenure he has yet to undertake?  That is blind.




And to MistaUNGA, you shouldn't discourage people from using every available means at their disposal to express their political will.  Writing and calling your representatives is very important, but you should not downplay the initiative taken by those who participate at Obama's website.  Even if this one action seems negligible, it is important to get people involved and willing to speak out on their beliefs.  The only way a republic can function properly is when its people are willing and do in fact participate!

PS.  I'm in the 215 state myself and thank goodness for it.  But don't let yourself become complacent just because you can pick up your next eigth as easy as anyone can pick up a burger from McDonalds.  We need to keep the pressure on all areas of government whenever possible.  The people, not one man, are the ones who must ultimately create lasting change in this country.


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- [Re: geokills]
    #176430 - 01/07/09 01:18 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

I cant stand people who already think Obama is a failure and anyone with common sense knows it will take much longer than 4 years to fix the mess that George Bush made so we will have to be patient and view progress for progress and not expect to have all our problems fixed overnight

I definitely believe in writing and calling your state and local representatives. My state rep is currently being indicted though so he is a bit hard to reach at the moment :tongue:


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- (moved) [Re: geokills]
    #176593 - 01/07/09 12:21 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- (moved) [Re: geokills]
    #176926 - 01/07/09 09:05 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

Don't ask Obama.


Obama can't do shit.


Contact your congressperson and speak your piece.


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- (moved) [Re: ezKiel]
    #178987 - 01/10/09 11:55 PM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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Obama can't do shit.





You shouldn't doubt the powers of the presidency after this last administration.  That's for sure.  lol.


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Re: -- Ask Obama WHY he Doesn't Support Marijuana Legalization! -- (moved) [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #179234 - 01/11/09 04:26 AM (11 years, 9 months ago)

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