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 Ombient
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 Re: i just dropped acid  [Re: Sativus]
#113059 - 08/22/08 10:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's the secret drug trade forum *_*
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 PsilocybinMike
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Coaster]
#113061 - 08/22/08 10:44 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaammmm
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andyistic
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Why the rabbit ears? 
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Ombient
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
#113064 - 08/22/08 10:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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cuz hez trippinnnnn
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PsilocybinMike
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
#113068 - 08/22/08 10:52 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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goin down the rabbithollllle 
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Agent00
Kickin it for Christ
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How is the acid treating you brah?
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Coaster
I'm Back Baby
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Agent00]
#113077 - 08/22/08 11:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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its goin real good yo just unloaded a grip o shiznit into my gal bout to go crack open a watermelon tehehehe
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Agent00
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Coaster]
#113078 - 08/22/08 11:50 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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 I am jealous.
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godspeedyou
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
#113101 - 08/23/08 02:04 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm not gonna lie, I'm impressed by your chem knowledge bro. I love learning about the chemical makeup of different substances... like how psilocin is so closed to dmt. very cool.
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andyistic
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: godspeedyou]
#113104 - 08/23/08 02:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's even closer to serotonin.
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Sativus
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
#113109 - 08/23/08 02:16 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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No, it's not.
Psilocin is 5-OH-DMT; Serotonin is 5-HO-T.
Two methyl groups are more than one hydroxyl group by any metric I can think of (# of atoms, molecular mass, etc.)
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Coaster
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
#113112 - 08/23/08 02:17 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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BWAHAHAHAHHAH i love dis thread
bout 2 watch star wars wewt!
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Sativus
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Coaster]
#113116 - 08/23/08 02:19 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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andyistic
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
#113119 - 08/23/08 02:25 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sativus said:
No, it's not.
Psilocin is 5-OH-DMT; Serotonin is 5-HO-T.
Two methyl groups are more than one hydroxyl group by any metric I can think of (# of atoms, molecular mass, etc.)
Serotonin:
Psilocin:
DMT:
If you have difficulty seeing the images, do Ctrl-A to highlight them.
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Sativus
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
#113120 - 08/23/08 02:26 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Those images are correct. I misspoke saying psilocin is 5-Ho-DMt; it's 4-HO-DMT... which makes you even less correct.
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andyistic
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
#113121 - 08/23/08 02:27 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't be a moron.
I'm just showing them for general interest, is that OK, your majesty?
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Sativus
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
#113123 - 08/23/08 02:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, that's ok. I'm just curious how 4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine is closer to 5-hydroxytryptamine than dimethyltryptamine in your mind?
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andyistic
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
#113124 - 08/23/08 02:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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That's really a subjective matter at this point.
They are similarities in both cases.
Saying that a methyl is closer than a hydroxy really doesn't make much sense.
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Sativus
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
#113125 - 08/23/08 02:34 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ok, if it's subjective, then what's your subjective reasoning?
Here's how I see it...
Psilocin vs DMT - The same, except for a hydroxyl at the 4- position.
Psilocin vs serotonin - Shift the hydroxyl from the 4-position to the 5-position and remove two methyl groups.
It seems difficult to argue that 3 differences are less than a single difference.
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Sativus
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
#113127 - 08/23/08 02:49 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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No response? Come on, you must have had some reason for claiming psilocin is more closely related to 5-HO-T than DMT. I'm genuinely curious.
Please, O great Andy, bless us with your chemical reasoning.
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