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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
    #113059 - 08/23/08 12:43 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

It's the secret drug trade forum *_*


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Coaster]
    #113061 - 08/23/08 12:44 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)



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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #113062 - 08/23/08 12:45 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

Why the rabbit ears? :lol:


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
    #113064 - 08/23/08 12:46 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

cuz hez trippinnnnn


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
    #113068 - 08/23/08 12:52 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

goin down the rabbithollllle :psychsplit:


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: PsilocybinMike]
    #113076 - 08/23/08 01:48 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

How is the acid treating you brah?


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Agent00]
    #113077 - 08/23/08 01:49 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

its goin real good yo just unloaded a grip o shiznit into my gal bout to go crack open a watermelon tehehehe


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Coaster]
    #113078 - 08/23/08 01:50 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

:awesome: I am jealous.


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
    #113101 - 08/23/08 04:04 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

I'm not gonna lie, I'm impressed by your chem knowledge bro. I love learning about the chemical makeup of different substances... like how psilocin is so closed to dmt. very cool.


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: godspeedyou]
    #113104 - 08/23/08 04:09 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

It's even closer to serotonin.


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
    #113109 - 08/23/08 04:16 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

No, it's not.

Psilocin is 5-OH-DMT; Serotonin is 5-HO-T.

Two methyl groups are more than one hydroxyl group by any metric I can think of (# of atoms, molecular mass, etc.)


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
    #113112 - 08/23/08 04:17 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

BWAHAHAHAHHAH i love dis thread
bout 2 watch star wars wewt!


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Coaster]
    #113116 - 08/23/08 04:19 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

:jedi:
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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
    #113119 - 08/23/08 04:25 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

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Sativus said:
No, it's not.

Psilocin is 5-OH-DMT; Serotonin is 5-HO-T.

Two methyl groups are more than one hydroxyl group by any metric I can think of (# of atoms, molecular mass, etc.)




Serotonin:


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
    #113120 - 08/23/08 04:26 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

Those images are correct.  I misspoke saying psilocin is 5-Ho-DMt; it's 4-HO-DMT... which makes you even less correct.


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
    #113121 - 08/23/08 04:27 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

Don't be a moron.

I'm just showing them for general interest, is that OK, your majesty?


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
    #113123 - 08/23/08 04:29 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

Yes, that's ok.  I'm just curious how 4-hydroxy-dimethyltryptamine is closer to 5-hydroxytryptamine than dimethyltryptamine in your mind?


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
    #113124 - 08/23/08 04:31 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

That's really a subjective matter at this point.
They are similarities in both cases.
Saying that a methyl is closer than a hydroxy really doesn't make much sense.


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: andyistic]
    #113125 - 08/23/08 04:34 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

Ok, if it's subjective, then what's your subjective reasoning?

Here's how I see it...

Psilocin vs DMT - The same, except for a hydroxyl at the 4- position.

Psilocin vs serotonin - Shift the hydroxyl from the 4-position to the 5-position and remove two methyl groups.

It seems difficult to argue that 3 differences are less than a single difference.


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Re: i just dropped acid [Re: Sativus]
    #113127 - 08/23/08 04:49 AM (11 years, 25 days ago)

No response?  Come on, you must have had some reason for claiming psilocin is more closely related to 5-HO-T than DMT. I'm genuinely curious.

Please, O great Andy, bless us with your chemical reasoning.


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