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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111142 - 08/18/08 11:01 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

wouldn't E=MC2 explain the creation of the universe?  if matter and energy are interchangeable then all the matter of the universe came from some cosmic energy. 


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you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: THEBats]
    #111146 - 08/18/08 11:03 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Maybe, but if it does I don't know how.


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: slackophage]
    #111147 - 08/18/08 11:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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slackophage said:
Same here, and if Weeds wasn't starting I'd get more into this thread.

Maybe later. :stoner:




I hope they upload it soon.


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kickin-two-hundo said:
you know what i did in english class? I came to class stoned out of my mind every day, i chugged vodka in the back of class, i put dead fish in the ceiling tiles. i put a gallon of old milk and orange juice in the file cabinet before winter vacation. i brought snakes in a tied up sweater and let them loose during class. i didnt go to school to learn, i went because i had to. i didnt care, and i didn't fucking listen to that stupid bitch. and i still don't fucking care. i tore the pages out of her books and burned them, and threw away all the books in the class, two books per day.  :twobooks:


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111148 - 08/18/08 11:04 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

ptsh conversion is ez


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Coaster]
    #111149 - 08/18/08 11:08 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Yeah, but you'd need to start with either matter or energy. Where'd the stuff getting converted come from?


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111151 - 08/18/08 11:12 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Another interesting point: e=mc2 deals with mass and energy. But what is mass really?  If you buy the Higgs-Boson idea, then how does the rest of matter enter into this?


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111160 - 08/18/08 11:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

<nerd>
No one said that Einstein's equation here is completely accurate.
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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: andyistic]
    #111163 - 08/18/08 11:21 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

But it's an interesting point to think about... I guess string theory could account for it if you don't mind the idea that we're living in about a dozen dimensions.  I'm hoping that CERN will soon confirm or deny the higgs boson idea.


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111167 - 08/18/08 11:26 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

:werd:

turn the LHC on already, goddamn it! :crankey:


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111168 - 08/18/08 11:27 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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But it's an interesting point to think about... I guess string theory could account for it if you don't mind the idea that we're living in about a dozen dimensions.  I'm hoping that CERN will soon confirm or deny the higgs boson idea.



But if you just stop for a moment and think that we're trying to analyze that which we, ourselves, are made up from - it's like pulling the rug from under us.
For this reason alone, I doubt we will ever find the answer we're looking for.


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Coaster]
    #111510 - 08/19/08 07:57 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Coaster said:
all the intelligent people are flooZ




Nah brah, all the intelligent people understand that life is something we are likely never to fully understand. And think all information and theories should be tested as best as possible to see which holds weight.

Also it is important to remember that there is plenty that you don't know. And that what you do not know may impact what you do.


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111517 - 08/19/08 08:20 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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Sativus said:
But it's an interesting point to think about... I guess string theory could account for it if you don't mind the idea that we're living in about a dozen dimensions.  I'm hoping that CERN will soon confirm or deny the higgs boson idea.




I like the one that says we're living in infinite dimensions, according to some quantum crap.

Can't remember the details, but the gist of it is every time there's a decision to be made in the universe, like the flip of a coin or roll of a dice or anything down to a molecular level, the universe splits itself into as many dimensions as there are possible outcomes. Each new dimension carries out with one of the outcomes until it's time to split again, and again, and again. So in theory, there are infinite dimensions, where every possible thing that could ever happen is happening.

The theory on time travel according to this view, is that since there are infinite dimensions, there must be one that is exactly like the one we're in now, only say, 1 year behind us. So if we could travel to that dimension, for all practical purposes it'd be time travel, but anything we did there wouldn't affect the one we came from....the changes would stay within that timeline and the infinite new ones created within, so on and so forth, ad nauseam.

So according to this theory, there's a dimension out there run by a master race of these: :discorex:

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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111520 - 08/19/08 09:13 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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I'm hoping that CERN will soon confirm or deny the higgs boson idea.



i think it will be at least a couple of years before they can confirm or deny it's existence.

i think most people expect major breakthroughs immediately and i just don't think they'll come right away.


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: maggotz]
    #111522 - 08/19/08 09:15 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

That's a bummer, I was hoping they could shed some light on it within a few month of starting to collide particles.

(And your post count is 666!  :devil: )


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Sativus]
    #111523 - 08/19/08 09:18 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

not anymore. :smirk:


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: THEBats]
    #111525 - 08/19/08 09:47 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

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well for one there has never been evidence to show for uphill evolution.  only downhill, traits such as non functioning appendages, loss of appendages ect.  Never have we seen evidence of a case in which we see a species gain a new organ that is beneficial to the species.  We also see in the fossil record distinct species not mutations between the too.  Evolution merely suggests that it must be, not that there is sufficient evidence to support such. 




this is creationsist propaganda we see it all the time.

the aids virus mutates all the time and each time becomes stronger and more resilient.

bacteria evolves all of the time.

Look at the modern dog all descendants of the wolf there are traits that dogs have become better at for instance smell, a blood hound has improved the wolves sense of smell.

the problem with your understanding is you are thinking of drastic changes and mutations like an extra limb that just appears in one child and become succesfull there are evolutionary changes happening in the human race as we speak they are subtle yet most of them harmful and due to modern medicine we keep dirtying our gene pool by letting the weak survive and reproduce when they should have died ie midgets people with aids fat people with short legs who could never outrun a bear are just a few examples.


The reason you don't see many changes is because you think that this happens overnight when infact a slight evolutionary change may take thousands if not millions of years.


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Re: Fucked Up Shit [Re: Agent00]
    #111527 - 08/19/08 10:00 PM (11 years, 7 months ago)

Also, I don't think I addressed this point as well as I could have:

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We also see in the fossil record distinct species not mutations between the too.




The thing is, every time that we find a missing link, it just creates two new "missing links" on either side of the one we found.  The more missing links we find, the more links we are "missing".


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