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TRUMP 2020
    #842224 - 01/14/20 10:15 AM (1 month, 7 days ago)

Build the wall, stop asylum seekers, stop chain migration, stop all immigration, and go America first! Blood and soil.

MAGA

Who here is voting for America first?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842236 - 01/14/20 06:23 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

*SKIP OVER AND 1ST SYMPATHY POAST:cheer:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Spicemaster]
    #842240 - 01/14/20 08:09 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

For me the wall is a crime thing, it won't even put a dent in migration, the people just fly here and never leave and then you have the h1b1's that come here constantly because of colleges.
If he protected the environment I could maybe see myself voting, but he's pretty curropt when it comes to the EPA so I don't care for him.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Spicemaster]
    #842241 - 01/14/20 08:46 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

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*SKIP OVER AND 1ST SYMPATHY POAST:cheer:



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842242 - 01/14/20 08:49 PM (1 month, 7 days ago)

They’re all crooked.  Every last one, it’s just which lies that take up and run with.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842247 - 01/15/20 08:03 AM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Build the wall, stop asylum seekers, stop chain migration, stop all immigration, and go America first! Blood and soil.

MAGA

Who here is voting for America first?

  :paradis:



I love how you are using a quote originally coined by German National Socialist (Nazi) ideology to peddle for Trump's re-election. Not surprising considering your apparent growing denial of the holocaust, but interesting considering your disdain for being labelled a racist or nazi for your ideas and political choices... :shrug:

I also love how your entire argument is racially motivated. You haven't mentioned anything other than "keep out the immigrants, promote literal nazi ideologies, Trump 2020".

Hard pass. :pipesmoke:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Spicemaster]
    #842255 - 01/15/20 01:13 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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*SKIP OVER AND 1ST SYMPATHY POAST:cheer:




Oi. Poast moar!

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842257 - 01/15/20 01:21 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

i dont know if hes gonna make it back in after all this...


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842258 - 01/15/20 01:21 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Being labeled racist doesn't bother me, but we don't see ourselves that way.

Separatist would be more accurate. And we pray that our black American counterparts do well and stay healthy.

:jointcross:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842266 - 01/15/20 03:36 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I've known xul for awhile and i've never seen him bring up the holocaust
even when it was brought up, it was always about the conspiracy itself and it had nothing to do with defaming others


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842269 - 01/15/20 05:03 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the numbers. Reparations were paid to Jews and an increase in deaths meant more reparations. There are no total counts of bodies, just estimates made by mostly Jewish people.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842275 - 01/15/20 06:25 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Being labeled racist doesn't bother me, but we don't see ourselves that way.

Separatist would be more accurate. And we pray that our black American counterparts do well and stay healthy.

:jointcross:

:paradis:




Lol nice catch on the "segregationist" to "separatist" edit. However the argument used to try and differentiate separatist from segregationist is that voluntary segregation can be beneficial, as opposed to government mandated or enforced segregation.

However, you've argued in the past for government-enforced segregation based on racially-motivated control of demographics. Which is certainly not voluntary segregation...and therefore your belief system cannot fall under the guise of separatist.

Your ideas are thus defined as racial segregationism, which is also a form of racial discrimination, which as we have previously discussed is a subset of racism. Ergo, you are a racist, regardless of how you see it. You can call a dog turd a candy cane, but I bet even you wouldn't eat that newly named candy cane. :shrug:


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I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the numbers. Reparations were paid to Jews and an increase in deaths meant more reparations. There are no total counts of bodies, just estimates made by mostly Jewish people.




Again, you are refusing to acknowledge basic terminology. Holocaust denial encompasses the claim that the number of Jews murdered is vastly smaller than 6 million.

Additionally, you literally titled your only thread here about the holocaust "I am starting to deny the holocaust" and in the aforementioned thread, you cited a wikipedia article about a woman who:
  • Was the wife of a former Nazi leader.
  • Was actively involved in a german political party that has been dubbed "the most significant neo-Nazi party to emerge after 1945"
  • Was the chair of an organization that was banned from Germany due to "continued holocaust denial"
  • Has published papers proposing that Adolf Hitler was misunderstood.

So tell me again how you aren't a holocaust denier?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842276 - 01/15/20 06:52 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

Being labeled a racist is irrelevant to me.   

I support voluntary balkanization/segregation and a Separatist region if we are pushed to a corner. The region might consist of several very white states where land is bought up and used appropriately. Our innate tribalism must be had.

The main point of all of this is to maintain homogeneity and tradition in order to stave off anomie. Honoring family tradition, honoring thy mother and father, honoring our ancestors and how they lived, honoring God, honoring the sabbath, and so forth. These sorts of things stave off anomie. This is why you see leftists who hate nuclear families, hate the Church, and hate anything to do with traditional America. They seek the destruction of traditional American culture and to replace it -- hence the great replacement.



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So tell me again how you aren't a holocaust denier?




Because I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the number of Jewish deaths.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842277 - 01/15/20 06:55 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

There was a book out a few years back titled The Battle of Rome, and it got down to a street level on how jews and people who helped the jews ran networks and even waged attack on the natzis.  I think I have the right title, anyways, it’s a really good book if you’re ever interested in guerilla type fight strategies.  Just tossing that out there as I suspect those lessons will come into play again one of these days..:themoreyouknow:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842283 - 01/15/20 07:38 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

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Being labeled a racist is irrelevant to me.   

I support voluntary balkanization/segregation and a Separatist region if we are pushed to a corner. The region might consist of several very white states where land is bought up and used appropriately. Our innate tribalism must be had.

The main point of all of this is to maintain homogeneity and tradition in order to stave off anomie. Honoring family tradition, honoring thy mother and father, honoring our ancestors and how they lived, honoring God, honoring the sabbath, and so forth. These sorts of things stave off anomie. This is why you see leftists who hate nuclear families, hate the Church, and hate anything to do with traditional America. They seek the destruction of traditional American culture and to replace it -- hence the great replacement.





So now you are advocating for balkanization, or the division of unified geographical areas into smaller autonomous areas that are usually hostile or uncooperative towards one another? As a backup, you advocate succession from America for whites? You realize that you are talking about the end of These United States, specifically based on racial concerns, and thus your ideas, motivations, and conclusions are not too far off from the southern white slave owners who's culture you just denied in another thread. :dumblol:

This seccession would not happen peacefully in America, we know this from historical events, and thus you are advocating for ideas that ultimately lead to racially-motivated violence, and in TSL of all places. :shrug:

You should choose your terms carefully, since you seem to like using/misusing big vocabulary words. This is especially true in the context of the subject matter at hand.


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Because I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the number of Jewish deaths.



And as I've already explained, you denying that you are a holocaust denier by denying the definition of "holocaust denier" doesn't make you not-a-holocaust-denier. :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842286 - 01/15/20 08:33 PM (1 month, 6 days ago)

XUL has a valid point, most of the evidence is just hear-say, would never fly in court, Russia if tried under their own crimes would be jus as guilty having invaded like 14 countries before hand

also the yad vesham museum curates all of that stuff, a group of people in isreal lol how can a group of people in a make beleive country come up with all this evidence? they collect some census in which the people didn't check mark their religious affiliations, if they even are religious


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842291 - 01/15/20 10:36 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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there was some wild stuff going on during that time period

you have no business taking sides with anyone if you are going to get uppidy about it
WW1 and 2 didn't just end, they were accompanied by some fucked up shit long after the peace treaties were signed, even Japan which was completely isolated from china had to deal with hundreds of thousands of people dying from cancer and having mutant babies, now just stop and think for a second what innocent Germanic people had to endure in all parts of europe

XUL has a valid point, most of the evidence is just hear-say, would never fly in court, Russia if tried under their own crimes would be jus as guilty having invaded like 14 countries before hand

also the yad vesham museum curates all of that stuff, a group of people in isreal lol how can a group of people in a make beleive country come up with all this evidence? they collect some census in which the people didn't check mark their religious affiliations, if they even are religious




I don't even know how to start with this post...except that holocaust denial is a term with a definition, that includes denial of the magnitude of the genocide that took place against the European Jews. XUL self-labels himself a holocaust denier, and meets the necessary requirements to actually be one through his own words. Therefore, XUL is a holocaust denier. I am not taking sides, these are quite literally his words labeling him as such...even though he currently denies even that self-label.

I'm not sure why you are talking about the suffering of Japanese and Germanic people as a counter point to my assertion that the holocaust happened. Japan was not isolated from China, they invaded Manchuria in 1931 and then engaged in the 2nd Sino-Japanese war that claimed between 3.5 and 10 million chinese lives. Hiroshima and Nagasaki had a combined population of about 0.5 million at the times of the bombings. Even if we ignore every followup study showing a 95% 50 year survival rate for children who survived the bombings and the actual rates of cancer and birth defects that are significantly less than 100%...it is inconceivable that you could arrive at a casualty total of between 7x and 20x the combined population of those cities, and that is just comparing one engagement between Japan and another country to the purported atrocities suffered by the people of post-war Japan. All of this comparison is still serving a moot point, because admission of wrong doing in one event does not justify the denial of another act of wrongdoing.

By Germanic people, you are encompassing a large population spread across the allied and axis powers, as well as neutral countries in Europe, and yes, a lot of them suffered from the effects of WWII during and afterwards. I still don't see how this somehow invalidates the existence of the holocaust.

How is the testimony from high ranking german officers under oath and several independant methods for comparing European census data considered hear-say and unable to hold up in court? One was literal testimony in a court, and the other was a comparison of documents and records, the opposite of hear-say. With regards to Russia, once again, the fact that one country commits genocide and war crimes does not erase the fact that other countries commit genocide and war crimes.

Yad vesham is not the only source for holocaust numbers, European countries conducted censuses in the 1930s and 1940s, it wasn't the stone age. As I've said, multiple methodologies have been published that place the numbers at between 5 and 6 million pretty consistently. Also, all countries are make believe the US magically appeared about 244 years ago. :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842294 - 01/16/20 03:08 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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European countries conducted censuses in the 1930s and 1940s




which is probably why they all got deported once the people figured out they didn't belong in said countries.
do you know there were more jewish people in the west in every country after the war than before it?
Don't you think they might've been hiding from some people or some economic agenda wayyyy after the war ended?
did you take into account isreal which had a population of 2 million in 1950, more than half of which were jewish. People living there with like 10+ family members in the same household...

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One was literal testimony in a court, and the other was a comparison of documents and record




testimony from someone who's family lives on the other side of the berlin wall and some official looking typed documents that go nowhere near the 2-3 million figure for the people who died in the camps, they didn't even have the train schedules mapped out until a couple years ago, so they came up with the wild theory that the majority of them died in the summer of 1942 and 1944, not the entire year the summer.

I took a forensics class, even if the swamp magically cleaned up the evidence there would be millions of pounds of evidence still in the other camps, of which there is not, there is tops maybe maybe evidence of 20k people max per burial plot and each one gets exponentially smaller and smaller into a couple thousand easily and to add insult to injury they don't even have pictures of the ground, just the hole they dug. Literally no one and I mean no one unearths a mass grave without taking pictures, but for a mass grave full of bone fragments of people from 60 years ago they think it's important not to take a picture, so when i was in highschool they said 250k people died at majdenek and then like 5 years later it was 70k. The other 180k people from official sources just disappeared one day, jus like the 3 million polish victems in aushwitz dissappeared in the 90's because it was a lie, even though the majority of people in aushwitz you guess it were polish

hear say

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.except that holocaust denial is a term with a definition, that includes denial of the magnitude of the genocide that took place against the European Jews.




yes lets sue/throw people in prison for some non-threatening things they said, well done
that definition isn't valid in eastern europe btw , they simply don't care which way you think
my friends family is armenian his whole blood line died out and he told me they never complain the way jews complain about it, they have one day of reverence and that's it, they don't turn it into a 5 year curriculum that is full of bias and completely taken out of context, the blacks were slaves for hundreds of years and they get nowhere near the amount of attention tho I could argue some of that is out of context as well but I never used those sources in my college paper... the sources however that they use in school for ww2 are complete bullshit fantasy land, they take original stories and doctor war crimes into them, elie wiesel does it, spielburg does it, they all lie and exaggerate at some point in each narrative, even kitty had to insert a speech from her mother in her story, it wouldn't look cool if she told everyone she was well off and german, which basically meant no one had any desire to execute her even if they could


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842296 - 01/16/20 04:43 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Xul simply cannot resist spewing forth his racist beliefs everywhere he goes.


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    #842300 - 01/16/20 05:19 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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There was a book out a few years back titled The Battle of Rome, and it got down to a street level on how jews and people who helped the jews ran networks and even waged attack on the natzis.  I think I have the right title, anyways, it’s a really good book if you’re ever interested in guerilla type fight strategies.  Just tossing that out there as I suspect those lessons will come into play again one of these days..:themoreyouknow:




Yeah, I know that one, but the title is wrong. The book title is poseidon.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842305 - 01/16/20 06:27 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

Lol mof, you sound just like a climate change denier.

Just because you havent run the numbers yourself, and just because your intuition doesn't result in 6 million figure, you therefore conclude that it was all a giant conspiracy whipped up out of nowhere.

I can't change your mind, that was never the point. The point was that XUL meets the criteria for holocaust denier. Plain and simple. I'm not going to promote further deterioration of this thread into a discussion of whether the holocaust is a thing. The evidence is there, free for all to look up, and you, like XUL, can choose to cherry-pick whatever you want and called it all candy canes if you want. Your actual opinions are your own. :shrug:


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    #842307 - 01/16/20 06:50 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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Lol mof, you sound just like a climate change denier.






That's the thing about you Data: You exist to be "infallible" and cast judgement.

"He's racist."

"He's a climate change denier."

Instead of debating a position, you make ad hominem attacks and then instantaneously insist that the conversation must end. Here is one instance of you making personal attacks and then ending the conversation:

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I'm not going to promote further deterioration of this thread into a discussion of whether the holocaust is a thing.




The other examples of you doing this is when you type racially charged messages to me, wait for me to explain my position, and then threaten to ban me in PM -- ending the conversation.

I am genuinely interested to compare positions with you, but I don't see you making it past your own ignorance. Plug your ears and say, "No, no, no, no! It can't be true and I won't hear it."

"Infallible."


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842312 - 01/16/20 07:35 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

As I've said before, I never claimed to be infallible.

I was not attacking mof, I was simply drawing similarities with a group that I'm more familiar with. The chain of logical fallacy is very similar, and I clearly explained that. If you choose to take my words out of context, that's on you.

And I'm not shutting down the convo, I'm simply refusing to participate further in a discussion about holocaust denial, especially since this thread was originally a racially-charged ad for Trump 2020, and not your original holocaust denial thread. :shrug:

The only debate going on was whether you are a holocaust denier. Debates are based on logic and facts. I have presented my case, and you have done nothing to counter. Mof chose to initiate side rants about justifying genocide by pointing at other sources of casualties and genocides.

I didn't tell anyone to stop discussion, just like I didn't tell you to stop posting in that complimentary PM that you keep butthurting about. :dumblol:


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    #842313 - 01/16/20 07:49 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

if you go to cambodia you can litterally see how genocide changed the landscape of the earth
the millions of deaths were all accounted for

the millions of deaths in the holocaust are in a very grey area for me
I suspect that the allies themselves killed them when they blew up everything
and not that the nazis were killing every last person alive for being jewish
there was a unit in russia that came across the einsatzgruppen
they mentioned treason, petty theft, rape etc. as reasons the nazi's killed people
never once did they say they were jewish

i've also read sources that said "all kykes in this area are to report"
kyke is an american word from america
the other translations in german, ukranian and russian, not english
so another source said it was "all -ki's in this area are to report"
so which is it, is it all the jewish circles or is it that family name?

the fact that you think there's hard data about that time period is entertaining to me
half of europe was under 4 different regime changes in the span of 10-20 years


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842316 - 01/16/20 08:10 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

This is America! (mindfreeze) Free speech allows any American to believe in and be whatever they want. So if ur racist,  facist, communist, socialist, capitalist, democrat, republican, have 31 identities, or whatever other labels u have been given or want to have then more power to ya. U cant have love without hate nor peace without war... Without pain how would u know that pleasure felt good vs bad.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842317 - 01/16/20 08:15 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

:shrug:

You have your anecdotal cherry picking of data and complex logical leaps to your conclusions. You do you, bruh.

I'll stick to census data comparisons and direct testimony from Nazi officers. :peace:


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    #842318 - 01/16/20 08:25 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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the fact that you think there's hard data about that time period is entertaining to me
half of europe was under 4 different regime changes in the span of 10-20 years




Indeed. Great point.

The holocaust is blown out of proportion in order to keep whites from being proud. It's used as a tool to bludgeon the white man and convince him to hate himself. How many times has Trump been called a Nazi? Thousands.

The Muslim Arabs ran a slave trade wherein they pillaged entire white towns in coastal Europe -- taking women and children as slaves. They also did this to black Africans. But does calling someone an Muslim hold the same weight as calling someone a Nazi? No.

The holohoax story is being told by the wrong people -- biased people -- people who have something to earn from telling it more grimly. Reparations were and still are enticing for the Jewish people. To this day, they receive reparations.


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The Prime Minister of Poland has declared that paying compensation for Jewish property stolen during the Holocaust would be a “victory for Hitler” and he will never allow it to happen.

https://www.algemeiner.com/2019/05/19/polish-prime-minister-reparations-for-jewish-property-stolen-during-the-holocaust-would-be-victory-for-hitler/







And now America gives aid to Israel and in return they have to buy our weapons. How does that even make sense? And then we spend more time in the middle east.

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    #842327 - 01/16/20 11:04 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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:shrug:

You have your anecdotal cherry picking of data and complex logical leaps to your conclusions. You do you, bruh.

I'll stick to census data comparisons and direct testimony from Nazi officers. :peace:




I can take any data you have and rip it apart, visualize it, find patterns

the point was that things are fucky
eye witness' lie a lot, don't even remember the face of the people who robbed them the majority of the time

I'll stick with forensic science on this
in my opinion there are still 1-2 million people missing out of the 6 gorillian (1 million of which died in combat, then maybe a million or couple million more who were relatives of the combatants, 100k dying from starvation after the war, 500k probably dying during the invasion from disease, having bombs dropped on them while they work in the factories which the allies targeted, etc.
I'd accuse the soviets of sweeping their kills under the rug before I'd accuse the nazi's of killing more than 1.5 million people in gassings)


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    #842328 - 01/16/20 11:59 AM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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    #842329 - 01/16/20 12:21 PM (1 month, 5 days ago)

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I can take any data you have and rip it apart, visualize it, find patterns




:rollsafe:

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the point was that things are fucky
eye witness' lie a lot, don't even remember the face of the people who robbed them the majority of the time

I'll stick with forensic science on this
in my opinion there are still 1-2 million people missing out of the 6 gorillian (1 million of which died in combat, then maybe a million or couple million more who were relatives of the combatants, 100k dying from starvation after the war, 500k probably dying during the invasion from disease, having bombs dropped on them while they work in the factories which the allies targeted, etc.
I'd accuse the soviets of sweeping their kills under the rug before I'd accuse the nazi's of killing more than 1.5 million people in gassings)




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    #842745 - 01/27/20 07:46 AM (25 days, 13 hours ago)

A true Trump fan. :patriot:
(Special thanks to mycosis over at Boomtown)

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    #842746 - 01/27/20 07:52 AM (25 days, 13 hours ago)

None of the democratic candidates have a chance on Trump.

The heart of America still beats -- even if not for long.

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    #842750 - 01/27/20 08:15 AM (25 days, 12 hours ago)

What are your thoughts on President Trump's spiritual adviser Paula White?
Some background info - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_White#Criticism_and_allegations_of_heresy
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Pastor Paula White said:
"We declare any strange winds – any strange winds that have been sent to hurt the church, sent to hurt this nation, sent against the president, sent against myself, sent against others – we break it by the superior blood of Jesus right now," she said in the sermon earlier this month.

"In the name of Jesus, we command all satanic pregnancies to miscarry right now,” she also prayed. “We declare that anything that has been conceived in satanic wombs will miscarry, it will not be able to carry forth any plan of destruction, any plan of harm."



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is this normal preaching? :wow:

:loljesus: :jesusmagic: . . . :peace:


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    #842751 - 01/27/20 08:24 AM (25 days, 12 hours ago)

:jointcross:

God, Christ in man, man over woman, woman over children.

He ought to get Michelle Malkin. A person of COLOR.


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    #842794 - 01/28/20 08:39 AM (24 days, 12 hours ago)

Trump keeps on winning and winning and winning and winning. All while the globalists kick and scream.
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Another win against immigration: "The Supreme Court will allow the Trump administration to enforce, for now, its "public charge" immigration restriction, lifting a pair of preliminary injunctions issued by federal judges. The administration’s rule would restrict immigrants entering the United States if the government believes they will rely on public assistance, such as housing or health care benefits."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/supreme-court-allows-trump-administration-to-enforce-public-charge-immigration-restriction?fbclid=IwAR1D6d0lX8wpTxWUVDkWAGIc9z93xE02JxwGfryzsyNGJkT0snZqsTnfOBI





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    #842798 - 01/28/20 10:53 AM (24 days, 10 hours ago)

You’re a bad person for wanting a countries assistance programs to benefit it’s actual citizens.

Boy that opens a can of worms, assistance programs and who they benefit..


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    #842802 - 01/28/20 02:08 PM (24 days, 6 hours ago)

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You’re a bad person for wanting a countries assistance programs to benefit it’s actual citizens.

Boy that opens a can of worms, assistance programs and who they benefit..




We pay for these people to come spread their crappy beliefs. Statues toppled, heritage spit on, and guns ready to be voted out.

There is no turning back from any of this if we let it keep going. Our culture and ancestors' work will be gone forever.



https://www.pewresearch.org/hispanic/2014/10/16/chapter-2-latinos-views-on-selected-2014-ballot-measure-issues/

We need an entire moratorium on immigration. And then we need a moratorium on anyone receiving benefits. Use the money we saved to build the wall.


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    #842805 - 01/28/20 02:52 PM (24 days, 6 hours ago)

I don’t have very high hopes of this ‘experiment’ working out favorably.  There’s just too many pieces of shit in the world, of all races, creeds and colors.  Our slave masters are now fully armed governments and they do not like it when we ask for our freedom.  It’s just too chaotic to isolate the problem and fix it, the house is coming down and I don’t think it’s too far off.


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    #842806 - 01/28/20 03:03 PM (24 days, 5 hours ago)

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I don’t have very high hopes of this ‘experiment’ working out favorably.  There’s just too many pieces of shit in the world, of all races, creeds and colors.  Our slave masters are now fully armed governments and they do not like it when we ask for our freedom.  It’s just too chaotic to isolate the problem and fix it, the house is coming down and I don’t think it’s too far off.




I tend to agree.

And I think when it falls, gun owning patriots/militia will come out on top once more.

And that is when we push out our oppressors. Just as we pushed out the British.

Perhaps we will March on Mexico City once more.


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    #842877 - 01/31/20 11:14 PM (20 days, 21 hours ago)

Trump pulled it off.


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    #842881 - 02/01/20 03:30 AM (20 days, 17 hours ago)

No he didn't. Come wed he's outta here! Adios, amigos!


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    #842887 - 02/01/20 06:40 AM (20 days, 14 hours ago)

Trump trolled the Democrats until they destroyed themselves.

Meanwhile he has been kicking ass as a conservative president. Even though his wall hasn't come yet, he has done so much work to prevent asylum seekers and people who are likely to use welfare. He pressures Mexico to stop caravans and those caravans usually stay in Mexico with work visas. Tijuana does not want the immigration. Indeed, Mexico is paying for it all in the end. They will block their own border or keep accepting refugees.


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    #842897 - 02/01/20 05:19 PM (20 days, 3 hours ago)

he's increased legal immigration 4x as much

better than nothin i guesss
the dems' jus don't care


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    #842909 - 02/01/20 10:31 PM (19 days, 22 hours ago)

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he's increased legal immigration 4x as much

better than nothin i guesss
the dems' jus don't care




Say what? What do you base this off of?


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    #842910 - 02/01/20 10:50 PM (19 days, 22 hours ago)

I don't actually mind Donald trump ...but he gets a lot of heat too


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    #842922 - 02/02/20 04:57 PM (19 days, 4 hours ago)

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he's increased legal immigration 4x as much

better than nothin i guesss
the dems' jus don't care




Say what? What do you base this off of?




obama let in like 100k a year
donald let in 400k a year

the dems solution is just to let random people come across the border unvetted
that isn't fair for the adults gainfully employed here, they put stress on our system


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    #842952 - 02/03/20 02:48 PM (18 days, 6 hours ago)

3 Musketeers for America :stoned:


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    #842972 - 02/04/20 10:21 PM (16 days, 22 hours ago)

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https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/03/27/u-s-projected-to-add-1-5m-illegal-aliens-to-population-this-year/

The United States is projected to add about 1.5 million illegal aliens to the American population by the end of the year, should current rates of Catch and Release, border crossings, and visa overstays pan out.

This year, the Department of Homeland Security’s (DHS) Catch and Release policy — whereby border crossers and illegal aliens are readily released from federal custody into the interior of the U.S. — is on track to release roughly 434,000 border crossers and illegal aliens into the country by the end of the year. This projection is based on current estimates that more than 36,000 border crossers and illegal aliens have been released from DHS custody every month since the beginning of the year.

America’s working and middle class have their wealth redistributed to the country’s top earners through wage stagnation.

Research by the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine has discovered that immigration to the country shifts about $500 billion in wages away from working and middle class Americans toward new arrivals and economic elites.

Illegal immigration under the Trump administration this year is projected to surpass every year of illegal immigration levels that the Obama administration oversaw, as Breitbart News has noted. Kopits, the Princeton Policy researcher, expects there to be 775,000 border crossings alone this year. This would be a level of illegal immigration at the U.S.-Mexico border not seen since President George W. Bush was in office.




meanwhile nothing but crappy part time jobs for kids in college, kids that graduated from college


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    #842974 - 02/05/20 05:43 PM (16 days, 3 hours ago)

well, he didn't get impeached :smile:


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    #842977 - 02/05/20 06:54 PM (16 days, 2 hours ago)

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well, he didn't get impeached :smile:




Indeed.


Mitt Romney. XDXDXD

He just fucked himself.

Even Susan Collins wasn't dumb enough to sell out.


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    #842979 - 02/05/20 09:35 PM (15 days, 23 hours ago)

nancy went to shake his hand and trump stuck his tongue out at her lol


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    #842981 - 02/05/20 09:41 PM (15 days, 23 hours ago)

I wonder what the leftist had to say about it...


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    #843213 - 02/21/20 09:40 AM (11 hours, 19 minutes ago)

On the Shroomery, I predicted Trump would do his own kind of redistribution, it looks like it's happening in the wake of COVID-19, at least according to Q.


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