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TRUMP 2020
    #842224 - 01/14/20 10:15 AM (2 months, 25 days ago)

Build the wall, stop asylum seekers, stop chain migration, stop all immigration, and go America first! Blood and soil.

MAGA

Who here is voting for America first?

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842236 - 01/14/20 06:23 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

*SKIP OVER AND 1ST SYMPATHY POAST:cheer:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Spicemaster]
    #842240 - 01/14/20 08:09 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

For me the wall is a crime thing, it won't even put a dent in migration, the people just fly here and never leave and then you have the h1b1's that come here constantly because of colleges.
If he protected the environment I could maybe see myself voting, but he's pretty curropt when it comes to the EPA so I don't care for him.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Spicemaster]
    #842241 - 01/14/20 08:46 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

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*SKIP OVER AND 1ST SYMPATHY POAST:cheer:



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842242 - 01/14/20 08:49 PM (2 months, 24 days ago)

They’re all crooked.  Every last one, it’s just which lies that take up and run with.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842247 - 01/15/20 08:03 AM (2 months, 24 days ago)

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XUL said:
Build the wall, stop asylum seekers, stop chain migration, stop all immigration, and go America first! Blood and soil.

MAGA

Who here is voting for America first?

  :paradis:



I love how you are using a quote originally coined by German National Socialist (Nazi) ideology to peddle for Trump's re-election. Not surprising considering your apparent growing denial of the holocaust, but interesting considering your disdain for being labelled a racist or nazi for your ideas and political choices... :shrug:

I also love how your entire argument is racially motivated. You haven't mentioned anything other than "keep out the immigrants, promote literal nazi ideologies, Trump 2020".

Hard pass. :pipesmoke:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Spicemaster]
    #842255 - 01/15/20 01:13 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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*SKIP OVER AND 1ST SYMPATHY POAST:cheer:




Oi. Poast moar!

Have you became OTD president yet?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842257 - 01/15/20 01:21 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

i dont know if hes gonna make it back in after all this...


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842258 - 01/15/20 01:21 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Being labeled racist doesn't bother me, but we don't see ourselves that way.

Separatist would be more accurate. And we pray that our black American counterparts do well and stay healthy.

:jointcross:

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842266 - 01/15/20 03:36 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

I've known xul for awhile and i've never seen him bring up the holocaust
even when it was brought up, it was always about the conspiracy itself and it had nothing to do with defaming others


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842269 - 01/15/20 05:03 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the numbers. Reparations were paid to Jews and an increase in deaths meant more reparations. There are no total counts of bodies, just estimates made by mostly Jewish people.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842275 - 01/15/20 06:25 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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Being labeled racist doesn't bother me, but we don't see ourselves that way.

Separatist would be more accurate. And we pray that our black American counterparts do well and stay healthy.

:jointcross:

:paradis:




Lol nice catch on the "segregationist" to "separatist" edit. However the argument used to try and differentiate separatist from segregationist is that voluntary segregation can be beneficial, as opposed to government mandated or enforced segregation.

However, you've argued in the past for government-enforced segregation based on racially-motivated control of demographics. Which is certainly not voluntary segregation...and therefore your belief system cannot fall under the guise of separatist.

Your ideas are thus defined as racial segregationism, which is also a form of racial discrimination, which as we have previously discussed is a subset of racism. Ergo, you are a racist, regardless of how you see it. You can call a dog turd a candy cane, but I bet even you wouldn't eat that newly named candy cane. :shrug:


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I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the numbers. Reparations were paid to Jews and an increase in deaths meant more reparations. There are no total counts of bodies, just estimates made by mostly Jewish people.




Again, you are refusing to acknowledge basic terminology. Holocaust denial encompasses the claim that the number of Jews murdered is vastly smaller than 6 million.

Additionally, you literally titled your only thread here about the holocaust "I am starting to deny the holocaust" and in the aforementioned thread, you cited a wikipedia article about a woman who:
  • Was the wife of a former Nazi leader.
  • Was actively involved in a german political party that has been dubbed "the most significant neo-Nazi party to emerge after 1945"
  • Was the chair of an organization that was banned from Germany due to "continued holocaust denial"
  • Has published papers proposing that Adolf Hitler was misunderstood.

So tell me again how you aren't a holocaust denier?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842276 - 01/15/20 06:52 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Being labeled a racist is irrelevant to me.   

I support voluntary balkanization/segregation and a Separatist region if we are pushed to a corner. The region might consist of several very white states where land is bought up and used appropriately. Our innate tribalism must be had.

The main point of all of this is to maintain homogeneity and tradition in order to stave off anomie. Honoring family tradition, honoring thy mother and father, honoring our ancestors and how they lived, honoring God, honoring the sabbath, and so forth. These sorts of things stave off anomie. This is why you see leftists who hate nuclear families, hate the Church, and hate anything to do with traditional America. They seek the destruction of traditional American culture and to replace it -- hence the great replacement.



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So tell me again how you aren't a holocaust denier?




Because I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the number of Jewish deaths.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842277 - 01/15/20 06:55 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

There was a book out a few years back titled The Battle of Rome, and it got down to a street level on how jews and people who helped the jews ran networks and even waged attack on the natzis.  I think I have the right title, anyways, it’s a really good book if you’re ever interested in guerilla type fight strategies.  Just tossing that out there as I suspect those lessons will come into play again one of these days..:themoreyouknow:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #842283 - 01/15/20 07:38 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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Being labeled a racist is irrelevant to me.   

I support voluntary balkanization/segregation and a Separatist region if we are pushed to a corner. The region might consist of several very white states where land is bought up and used appropriately. Our innate tribalism must be had.

The main point of all of this is to maintain homogeneity and tradition in order to stave off anomie. Honoring family tradition, honoring thy mother and father, honoring our ancestors and how they lived, honoring God, honoring the sabbath, and so forth. These sorts of things stave off anomie. This is why you see leftists who hate nuclear families, hate the Church, and hate anything to do with traditional America. They seek the destruction of traditional American culture and to replace it -- hence the great replacement.





So now you are advocating for balkanization, or the division of unified geographical areas into smaller autonomous areas that are usually hostile or uncooperative towards one another? As a backup, you advocate succession from America for whites? You realize that you are talking about the end of These United States, specifically based on racial concerns, and thus your ideas, motivations, and conclusions are not too far off from the southern white slave owners who's culture you just denied in another thread. :dumblol:

This seccession would not happen peacefully in America, we know this from historical events, and thus you are advocating for ideas that ultimately lead to racially-motivated violence, and in TSL of all places. :shrug:

You should choose your terms carefully, since you seem to like using/misusing big vocabulary words. This is especially true in the context of the subject matter at hand.


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Because I don't deny the holocaust. I dispute the number of Jewish deaths.



And as I've already explained, you denying that you are a holocaust denier by denying the definition of "holocaust denier" doesn't make you not-a-holocaust-denier. :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842286 - 01/15/20 08:33 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

XUL has a valid point, most of the evidence is just hear-say, would never fly in court, Russia if tried under their own crimes would be jus as guilty having invaded like 14 countries before hand

also the yad vesham museum curates all of that stuff, a group of people in isreal lol how can a group of people in a make beleive country come up with all this evidence? they collect some census in which the people didn't check mark their religious affiliations, if they even are religious


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842291 - 01/15/20 10:36 PM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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there was some wild stuff going on during that time period

you have no business taking sides with anyone if you are going to get uppidy about it
WW1 and 2 didn't just end, they were accompanied by some fucked up shit long after the peace treaties were signed, even Japan which was completely isolated from china had to deal with hundreds of thousands of people dying from cancer and having mutant babies, now just stop and think for a second what innocent Germanic people had to endure in all parts of europe

XUL has a valid point, most of the evidence is just hear-say, would never fly in court, Russia if tried under their own crimes would be jus as guilty having invaded like 14 countries before hand

also the yad vesham museum curates all of that stuff, a group of people in isreal lol how can a group of people in a make beleive country come up with all this evidence? they collect some census in which the people didn't check mark their religious affiliations, if they even are religious




I don't even know how to start with this post...except that holocaust denial is a term with a definition, that includes denial of the magnitude of the genocide that took place against the European Jews. XUL self-labels himself a holocaust denier, and meets the necessary requirements to actually be one through his own words. Therefore, XUL is a holocaust denier. I am not taking sides, these are quite literally his words labeling him as such...even though he currently denies even that self-label.

I'm not sure why you are talking about the suffering of Japanese and Germanic people as a counter point to my assertion that the holocaust happened. Japan was not isolated from China, they invaded Manchuria in 1931 and then engaged in the 2nd Sino-Japanese war that claimed between 3.5 and 10 million chinese lives. Hiroshima and Nagasaki had a combined population of about 0.5 million at the times of the bombings. Even if we ignore every followup study showing a 95% 50 year survival rate for children who survived the bombings and the actual rates of cancer and birth defects that are significantly less than 100%...it is inconceivable that you could arrive at a casualty total of between 7x and 20x the combined population of those cities, and that is just comparing one engagement between Japan and another country to the purported atrocities suffered by the people of post-war Japan. All of this comparison is still serving a moot point, because admission of wrong doing in one event does not justify the denial of another act of wrongdoing.

By Germanic people, you are encompassing a large population spread across the allied and axis powers, as well as neutral countries in Europe, and yes, a lot of them suffered from the effects of WWII during and afterwards. I still don't see how this somehow invalidates the existence of the holocaust.

How is the testimony from high ranking german officers under oath and several independant methods for comparing European census data considered hear-say and unable to hold up in court? One was literal testimony in a court, and the other was a comparison of documents and records, the opposite of hear-say. With regards to Russia, once again, the fact that one country commits genocide and war crimes does not erase the fact that other countries commit genocide and war crimes.

Yad vesham is not the only source for holocaust numbers, European countries conducted censuses in the 1930s and 1940s, it wasn't the stone age. As I've said, multiple methodologies have been published that place the numbers at between 5 and 6 million pretty consistently. Also, all countries are make believe the US magically appeared about 244 years ago. :shrug:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Data]
    #842294 - 01/16/20 03:08 AM (2 months, 23 days ago)

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European countries conducted censuses in the 1930s and 1940s




which is probably why they all got deported once the people figured out they didn't belong in said countries.
do you know there were more jewish people in the west in every country after the war than before it?
Don't you think they might've been hiding from some people or some economic agenda wayyyy after the war ended?
did you take into account isreal which had a population of 2 million in 1950, more than half of which were jewish. People living there with like 10+ family members in the same household...

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One was literal testimony in a court, and the other was a comparison of documents and record




testimony from someone who's family lives on the other side of the berlin wall and some official looking typed documents that go nowhere near the 2-3 million figure for the people who died in the camps, they didn't even have the train schedules mapped out until a couple years ago, so they came up with the wild theory that the majority of them died in the summer of 1942 and 1944, not the entire year the summer.

I took a forensics class, even if the swamp magically cleaned up the evidence there would be millions of pounds of evidence still in the other camps, of which there is not, there is tops maybe maybe evidence of 20k people max per burial plot and each one gets exponentially smaller and smaller into a couple thousand easily and to add insult to injury they don't even have pictures of the ground, just the hole they dug. Literally no one and I mean no one unearths a mass grave without taking pictures, but for a mass grave full of bone fragments of people from 60 years ago they think it's important not to take a picture, so when i was in highschool they said 250k people died at majdenek and then like 5 years later it was 70k. The other 180k people from official sources just disappeared one day, jus like the 3 million polish victems in aushwitz dissappeared in the 90's because it was a lie, even though the majority of people in aushwitz you guess it were polish

hear say

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.except that holocaust denial is a term with a definition, that includes denial of the magnitude of the genocide that took place against the European Jews.




yes lets sue/throw people in prison for some non-threatening things they said, well done
that definition isn't valid in eastern europe btw , they simply don't care which way you think
my friends family is armenian his whole blood line died out and he told me they never complain the way jews complain about it, they have one day of reverence and that's it, they don't turn it into a 5 year curriculum that is full of bias and completely taken out of context, the blacks were slaves for hundreds of years and they get nowhere near the amount of attention tho I could argue some of that is out of context as well but I never used those sources in my college paper... the sources however that they use in school for ww2 are complete bullshit fantasy land, they take original stories and doctor war crimes into them, elie wiesel does it, spielburg does it, they all lie and exaggerate at some point in each narrative, even kitty had to insert a speech from her mother in her story, it wouldn't look cool if she told everyone she was well off and german, which basically meant no one had any desire to execute her even if they could


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Mof]
    #842296 - 01/16/20 04:43 AM (2 months, 23 days ago)

Xul simply cannot resist spewing forth his racist beliefs everywhere he goes.


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