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Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen:
    #661252 - 03/06/13 11:41 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

What happens if you dust a female plant with bee pollen.

Say i have a Hawaiian strain and i go online and buy bee pollen from a farm in Hawaii. could this be a way to get some male genes from where i want?
also if there is no MJ pollen present do you think its possible that there is so many gametes in the pollen that some calyxes would be tricked into producing some female seeds?
like Jurassic park where as the bee pollen(frog) would have so much extra genetic material it would make it possible to find DNA that corresponds closely to the MJ. Triggering the plant into some sort of reproductive mode. (even if it is its own DNA,female seeds.)

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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: grod31]
    #661255 - 03/06/13 11:50 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

IM here but what kind of bee pollen are you talking about? I dont think bees just have pollen they pick it up from something else.Right?


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661257 - 03/06/13 11:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

yes they would pick it up from 1,000's of plants in the surrounding area. they can travel many miles.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: grod31]
    #661258 - 03/06/13 11:57 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

So what Im getting you want to pollinate a female mj plant with just any flower out side?


Edited by budgrowerwannabe (03/06/13 11:58 AM)


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661259 - 03/06/13 11:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

maybe trick an S1 with other pollen but thats not the jest of my question.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661260 - 03/06/13 11:59 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Between me and my cousin we have about 8 bee hives.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661339 - 03/06/13 11:32 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

bees gather necter, not pollen, which turns to honey when they regurgitate it into into the little wax capsules in the honey comb.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: ajmvan]
    #661352 - 03/07/13 06:42 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

They collect pollen by just landing in the pollen on any flower. your right thats not y hes there. Like you said hes there to get the Sweet stuff but in turn they pollen all the flowers and what not so the world can have fruits and vegges


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: grod31]
    #661359 - 03/07/13 08:43 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

grod31 said:
What happens if you dust a female plant with bee pollen.

Say i have a Hawaiian strain and i go online and buy bee pollen from a farm in Hawaii. could this be a way to get some male genes from where i want?
also if there is no MJ pollen present do you think its possible that there is so many gametes in the pollen that some calyxes would be tricked into producing some female seeds?
like Jurassic park where as the bee pollen(frog) would have so much extra genetic material it would make it possible to find DNA that corresponds closely to the MJ. Triggering the plant into some sort of reproductive mode. (even if it is its own DNA,female seeds.)

Does anyone here have a voice?




Short answer here is "no", for various reasons.  Bee pollen is not active pollen first of all so it would never fertilize a plant, second, only cannabis pollen can fertilize cannabis, and third, think logically about this; you can't take the ovum or pistil of an animal or plant and then introduce some unrelated sperm or pollen to "trick" it into being fertilized.  Plants don't just form seeds without same species fertilization.  Even hermaphroditic plants have to have male flowers.
I'm trying to take your question seriously here, but it's just silly enough for me to think you're joking...if you are, then haha, you got me.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: 81renaissance]
    #661360 - 03/07/13 09:01 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Thats what i was thinking i know a little about bees . And i couldnt understand what he was saying?


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661362 - 03/07/13 09:22 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah, the biggest problem with this is the first thing I mentioned: once bees ingest the pollen, its mixed with various enzymes and fungi for storage purposes, rendering it completely inactive.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: 81renaissance]
    #661364 - 03/07/13 10:04 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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Yeah, the biggest problem with this is the first thing I mentioned: once bees ingest the pollen, its mixed with various enzymes and fungi for storage purposes, rendering it completely inactive.



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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: budgrowerwannabe]
    #661365 - 03/07/13 10:19 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

pssh. w/e
i guess no male Hawaiin pollen for me.Regardless, im prettyfuckin stupid, so i am im still gonna have to try this when the time is right.
you guys want a real laugh on the topic of cross specie fertilization.
check out this thread from the shroomery. i laugh just thinking about all the time.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1377613/fpart/1/vc/1

seriously read some of it.
:smileyfrog:


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: 81renaissance]
    #661369 - 03/07/13 11:52 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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81renaissance said:
Yeah, the biggest problem with this is the first thing I mentioned: once bees ingest the pollen, its mixed with various enzymes and fungi for storage purposes, rendering it completely inactive.




Bees don't "ingest the pollen" that you buy as "bee pollen".  Bees scrape pollen off their heads and body onto special places on the back legs call "pollen combs" and "pollen baskets" and carry it back to the hive.  It's easy to see where they carry it (provided you've ever looked at a bee before):

http://bee-pollen-supplement.com/bee-pollen-basket/bees-pollen-basket

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pollen_basket

They THEN use it as a protein source for the growing young.  From Wikipedia, "Bees are adapted for feeding on nectar and pollen, the former primarily as an energy source and the latter primarily for protein and other nutrients. Most pollen is used as food for larvae."

Here's how bee-keepers collect bee pollen before the workers can deliver it to the larvae:  http://www.durhamsbeefarm.com/how.htm

So, what is bee pollen?  It's JUST pollen, usually from a narrow range of plants that the local bee hive regularly visits, and collected by clever bee keepers.  And, since marijuana is a dieocious plant whose male produces no attractant to bees that I'm aware (nectar), it's unlikely that any "bee pollen" will contain cannabis pollen.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: zzzzzz]
    #661489 - 03/08/13 11:54 AM (3 years, 8 months ago)

that all sounded good to the last sentence.
because i know bees love male plants.


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: zzzzzz]
    #661595 - 03/08/13 11:30 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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A recent study of samples of bee pollen showed they may contain 188 kinds of fungi and 29 kinds of bacteria.[6]




Link.

Doesn't sound like "just pollen" to me.  :wink:


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Re: Lets here your opinion on my theory :Bee Pollen: [Re: 81renaissance]
    #661598 - 03/08/13 11:48 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

bees make killer honey out of that shit.
But I doubt one would ever get any killer seeds out of it


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    #661722 - 03/10/13 06:46 PM (3 years, 8 months ago)

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JustAnotherAsshole said:
bees make killer honey out of that shit.
But I doubt one would ever get any killer seeds out of it




Yeah, no seeds.  I also have never seen an honey bee visit a male only flower (dioecious plant).  Does anyone have any evidence at all that marijuana is regularly visited by bees?  I don't think so.  They are essentially wind-pollinated.

But bees don't make honey out of pollen, just to be clear.


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