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Everything is going downhill >:'(
    #637147 - 09/11/12 08:15 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

. Are you growing from seed or clones? SEED
2. How old are your plants? about 30 days
3. How tall are your plants? 3"-5"
4. What type of hydro system are you using? DWC
5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using? GH  Floragro / Micro
6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution? ranging form 5.9-6.4
7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water? n/a
8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution? n/a
9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? 75*F
10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? i cant tell
11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check? seems to raise
12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything? spray bottle , dipped suction into nute gro / micro
13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")MH 400
14. How close are your lights to the plants? less than a foot
15. What size is your grow space in square feet? 7.5
16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space? ants crawling around sometimes (basement)
18. How much experience do you have growing? not very


basically im getting droopy leaves, roots that keep falling apart (was slimy earlier), and two of plants decided to stunt growth and are dying.

using a 10Gal res, two airstones (8"+6")and the water level is just at the bottom of the pots (just refilled today)
using 18tbsp (little less than 2.4tbps/gal) of floragrow 2-1-6
and using... about 12tbps of flora micro 5-0-1

it did have a really bad problem with algae and a friend of mine can agree it could be that, the pH shock (went from 6.8 to 5.3 in one cleaning, then up to 6.2 over two days)

also thinking it could be a Phosphorus deficiency, since i dont have a bottle of bloom.

could have been the lights too high (was about 2ft above, earlier)
also could have been overwatering... idk how fast it'll kick back in however

i use about 2tbps to lower pH from 6.8 to about 5.9
about 7-7.5gal water in the res

Anyone have any tips on lowering Res Lighting as well? im out of tape, so im thinking about demolishing a dark green/black shirt and folding it ontop of it

hope to hear from somone.... grasscity is GARBAGE

changed some things around today, so im hoping to see something change

one plant lost all green on the first leaf set, and the stems are turning a mild purple again

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637153 - 09/11/12 08:21 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Do you now have a lid on your res?  This is imperative, light on a nutrient solution causes algae growth.  Do you have air stones bubbling over every root system?  You also need to get a PPM meter so we can determine what the nutrient strength is.


Stop spraying them, no need for that.


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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #637162 - 09/11/12 08:28 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

yes, a lid is present, however, light still seeps through.
bubbles under every root mass
i'll stop spraying as well.

my test strips are asking me
nitrate/nitrite levels ppm
hardness ppm
alkalinity (KH)ppm
pH

i'll take some picture of my setup in a moment

Edited by ekohz (09/11/12 08:28 PM)

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637165 - 09/11/12 08:35 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Well a little light isn't that big of a deal.  Is this a recirculating system?  And can you bring the temp of the water down about 10 degrees.


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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #637168 - 09/11/12 09:07 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Pics are in!


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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637170 - 09/11/12 09:11 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I think you're over feeding the shit out of your plants man.


Completely change the res, and replace with plain water for a day.  Then add 2.5ml per gal of Grow and Micro.


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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #637172 - 09/11/12 09:12 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

thanks VERY much for the post. will do right now.

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637175 - 09/11/12 09:14 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I have no idea what kind of internet access I'm going to have in the next 5 days or so.  I'm heading down to NOR/Cal/SoOr to do some trimming.  I'll try and check up on ya though, and see if things are going all right.


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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #637176 - 09/11/12 09:17 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

repd!!

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637180 - 09/11/12 09:37 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

left about 2" of the nute water in the res, drained the rest and replaced with water a little below the net pots.

thanks again for the advice, be sure to take nice pics of the trimmings!

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637183 - 09/11/12 09:47 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)



My little cupboard!

gotta work on getting the fan actually flush with the cutout
also need to create an exhaust. i love the smell of vegetation when i walk down the basement stairs!

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637261 - 09/13/12 03:46 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

anyone have any experience dealing with Root Slime?

apperently its algae that doesnt care if there is light, cold, heat, nutrition, wtc

gonna buy some peroxide tomorrow, how much would i add (3%) to 7-8 gal?


Edited by ekohz (09/13/12 03:46 AM)

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637265 - 09/13/12 06:45 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

how often do you change your res?


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it's absolutely clear.
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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #637267 - 09/13/12 06:49 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i use GH flora series, and from what you have posted you are using like 3-4 times too much.


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it's absolutely clear.
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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #637408 - 09/14/12 05:24 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I'm just following the back label even though I'm using less than what it says. I need help with my roots, and I clean every week to ten days. Running at 18 hours on. From what I've heard, it's not root rot, but a mysterious slime.

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #637413 - 09/14/12 06:10 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

I use half of what they suggest.  And then work my way up. 


If you want to take care of the slime, use physan 20.


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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #637720 - 09/18/12 04:20 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

WELL GUYS. shit went crazy in 2 days. everything was OKAY, then the slime  turned instabrown, and cause the center of my leaves to gold over in less than a day (inwards, outwards)

i'd say 3 or the 6 are in critical condition, so i transplanted them to an outdoor grow medium.

the female is in a new res (much smaller, with single airstone to herself)

brought the outdoor plant inside (plant and forget) (7th plant)

>6 plants indoors (ones dead), 1 plant outdoors
>transplanted one to soil, -leaving him inside-
>transplanted 3 more to soil -leaving outdoors-
>brought originally outdoor plant indoors

id expect them to like perlite, vermiculite, peatmoss and garden soil, cause im having a hard time with these fuckers

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #638014 - 09/22/12 05:25 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

3 plants are dead.

Transferred the female to soil because the root issue causes the mystery algae to grow regardless of light
All plants in soil now.

I don't expect anything from them now.

Can you clone plants without rootin hormone? Also, I have more seeds of blackberry, so ill probably try growing them.

What should I keep in mind for now
>less nute
>closer lights
>better ventilation
>more h2o2
>stabile Ph

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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: ekohz]
    #638015 - 09/22/12 05:30 PM (11 years, 6 months ago)

Did you even try the Physan 20 like I recommended?


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Re: Everything is going downhill >:'( [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #638254 - 09/25/12 12:24 AM (11 years, 6 months ago)

i used a drop of bleach and it stopped EVERYTHING, however the plant was way too dead to save... so i smoked them

ALSO..

i cant tell if this is male (the SOUL SURVIVOR)?

pushing into flower as we speak

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