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 Mr.Hybrid
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Loc: Astana, Kazakhstan
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 Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche 
#618603 - 04/16/12 09:34 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Auto-SummaryA professor questions a Christian student about his faith, challenging whether God is good or exists based on various events. The student responds with faith, despite scientific evidence suggesting otherwise. The professor attempts to explain scientific concepts like heat, cold, and darkness, but the student points out that these are merely the absence of energy or light. The professor then asks if the student believes humans evolved from monkeys, to which the student responds that it is a matter of faith. The professor argues that science should be based on empirical evidence, but the student concludes that faith is what keeps life and the link between humans and God alive and moving.
Professor : You are a Christian, aren’t you, son ?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, you believe in GOD ?
Student : Absolutely, sir.
Professor : Is GOD good ?
Student : Sure.
Professor: Is GOD all powerful ?
Student : Yes.
Professor: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to GOD to heal him. Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But GOD didn’t. How is this GOD good then? Hmm?
(Student was silent.)
Professor: You can’t answer, can you ? Let’s start again, young fella. Is GOD good?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Is satan good ?
Student : No.
Professor: Where does satan come from ?
Student : From … GOD …
Professor: That’s right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?
Student : Yes.
Professor: Evil is everywhere, isn’t it ? And GOD did make everything. Correct?
Student : Yes.
Professor: So who created evil ?
(Student did not answer.)
Professor: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don’t they?
Student : Yes, sir.
Professor: So, who created them ?
(Student had no answer.)
Professor: Science says you have 5 Senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son, have you ever seen GOD?
Student : No, sir.
Professor: Tell us if you have ever heard your GOD?
Student : No , sir.
Professor: Have you ever felt your GOD, tasted your GOD, smelt your GOD? Have you ever had any sensory perception of GOD for that matter?
Student : No, sir. I’m afraid I haven’t.
Professor: Yet you still believe in Him?
Student : Yes.
Professor : According to Empirical, Testable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says your GOD doesn’t exist. What do you say to that, son?
Student : Nothing. I only have my faith.
Professor: Yes, faith. And that is the problem Science has.
Student : Professor, is there such a thing as heat?
Professor: Yes.
Student : And is there such a thing as cold?
Professor: Yes.
Student : No, sir. There isn’t.
(The lecture theater became very quiet with this turn of events.)
Student : Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don’t have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat, but we can’t go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold. Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.
(There was pin-drop silence in the lecture theater.)
Student : What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?
Professor: Yes. What is night if there isn’t darkness?
Student : You’re wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light. But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn’t it? In reality, darkness isn’t. If it is, well you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn’t you?
Professor: So what is the point you are making, young man ?
Student : Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.
Professor: Flawed ? Can you explain how?
Student : Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good GOD and a bad GOD. You are viewing the concept of GOD as something finite, something we can measure. Sir, Science can’t even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one. To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing.
Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor, do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?
Professor: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.
Student : Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?
(The Professor shook his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument was going.)
Student : Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavor. Are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?
(The class was in uproar.)
Student : Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor’s brain?
(The class broke out into laughter. )
Student : Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor’s brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established Rules of Empirical, Stable, Demonstrable Protocol, Science says that you have no brain, sir. With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?
(The room was silent. The Professor stared at the student, his face unfathomable.)
Professor: I guess you’ll have to take them on faith, son.
Student : That is it sir … Exactly ! The link between man & GOD is FAITH. That is all that keeps things alive and moving.
P.S.
I believe you have enjoyed the conversation. And if so, you’ll probably want your friends / colleagues to enjoy the same, won’t you?
Forward this to increase their knowledge … or FAITH.
By the way, that student was EINSTEIN.
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Shr0000ooooms
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 Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: Mr.Hybrid]
#618611 - 04/16/12 09:45 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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That only proves there is a possibility God exist, not that someones faith in religion is correct.
So you can use this argument for God, but sadly you cannot with the religions we have in the World today.
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: Mr.Hybrid]
#618612 - 04/16/12 09:46 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I wonder if this actually has any verified sources that it was einstein
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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Mr.Hybrid
Constitutionalist
Registered: 01/08/12
Posts: 977
Loc: Astana, Kazakhstan
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Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: Hawksresurrection]
#618618 - 04/16/12 09:51 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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I found it on interwebs
No clue if its legit
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I am the person that stands in front of you in line ,
The person that you walk by and don't notice
I am the person who cares about you and your rights
I AM ANONYMOUS
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P-O
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Posts: 17,960
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Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: Mr.Hybrid]
#618650 - 04/16/12 11:07 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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tl;dr
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 kyuzo
Stranger Than Fiction
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Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: P-O] 1
#618681 - 04/17/12 02:18 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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1) doubt it was actually Einstein. From all accounts he was a rather unremarkable students and it's unlikely anyone thought to save his remarks for future generations
2) while I have issues with how people generally view faith, the piece above is rather poorly constructed. Because we don't take the existence of the brain, or evolution on faith. We have scientific, and measurable, evidence for both. And it's a safe assumption, based on all the known evidence, that if a person is up, walking around, and teaching a class, they have a functioning one
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Hawksresurrection
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Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: kyuzo]
#618682 - 04/17/12 02:50 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Yes there are definitely flaws with it. I do remember hearing that he was a poor student as well.
I'm sure it was just made up by the faith propaganda machine to try and give them some edge.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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DungenessDank
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Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: Mr.Hybrid]
#618716 - 04/17/12 07:33 AM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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God is unfalsifiable, doesn't mean s/he's real.
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Hawksresurrection
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Posts: 13,464
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Re: Take time to read ....I have to say ....Touche [Re: DungenessDank]
#618748 - 04/17/12 03:31 PM (14 years, 6 months ago) |
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Well I'm pretty unfalsifiable. But I'm definitely not real.
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Dude she isn't as young as she use to be.
-niteowl
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