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Offlinecloneufc
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My first mutation!
    #607594 - 01/31/12 06:01 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I planted about fifty Sour Diesel seeds. I got a strange mutation on one of them. Out of the fifty, one of them has a bright cherry red stem. The camera on my phone is not doing the color of the stem justice for some reason. I'm gonna grow this bad boy or girl out. I'm hoping it's a female!
The first picture is what all the other seedlings look like.
The second picture is of the mutation.




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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
    #607597 - 01/31/12 06:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
    #607600 - 01/31/12 06:27 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Im using fertilizer and the PH is correct. Why would one out of fifty be bright red from the start? I have grown many plants from seeds and this is the first I have seen. It's cherry red unlike the others. I'm pretty sure it's a unique phenotype.

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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
    #607627 - 01/31/12 10:07 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...




I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.

I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration. :shrug:


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607635 - 01/31/12 10:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.

And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno

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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Dimo114]
    #607637 - 01/31/12 11:10 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.





I agree, I dont start feeding nutrients until after they're 3rd, n 4th leafs start showing.

(Of course I am using FFOF...So they do get nutrients from the soil.)


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
    #607645 - 01/31/12 12:43 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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cloneufc said:
Im using fertilizer and the PH is correct. Why would one out of fifty be bright red from the start? I have grown many plants from seeds and this is the first I have seen. It's cherry red unlike the others. I'm pretty sure it's a unique phenotype.




I guess you have a point. But I always notice clones doing it, so I figured it was a deficiency or sign of some sort of stress.


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Dimo114]
    #607651 - 01/31/12 01:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Miscusi said:
Quote:

RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...




I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.

I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration. :shrug:



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Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.

And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno




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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #607764 - 02/01/12 01:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
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Miscusi said:
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RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...




I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.

I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration. :shrug:



Quote:

Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.

And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno






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Re: My first mutation! [Re: phrostbyte]
    #607830 - 02/01/12 03:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

i didn't realize there was anything of significance to this occurrence.  it's happened to me several times.  I didn't think anything of it.  Looks like i should do a bit more research.  also, i can't tell if its the lights or not, but those leaves are kinda yellow on your plant.  that's indicative of a deficiency, if true. 


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #607832 - 02/01/12 03:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
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Miscusi said:
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RasJeph said:
Not to be a buzzkill or a dick or anything, but I was under the impression that red stems = the beginning of a N deficiency...




I have gotten seedlings of any strain that do that.

I never thought anything of it, few weeks and it begins to fade to normal coloration. :shrug:



Quote:

Dimo114 said:
Woa dude you shouldnt be feeding yet.

And I really doubt thats a mutation, prolly a weak pheno








This is the fact.  Or it's an extra strong pheno, it could be the only seedling showing signs of deficiency because it's the most aggressive feeder.


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #607839 - 02/01/12 04:22 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I start my seedlings on fertilizer and never had a problem. I use to use just plain distilled water. Then I started using nutes and it seemed to increase the growth and health of the plants.

After doing some reading it could be red for a number of reasons. Having red stems could be an N,P or K deficiency.

Some people claim the red stemmed plants were their best plants. This seems to be common. I guess time will tell.

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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
    #607841 - 02/01/12 04:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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cloneufc said:


Some people claim the red stemmed plants were their best plants. This seems to be common. I guess time will tell.





The few red stems i got seemed to be very vigorous plants... Thats IME.  So id rule out deficiency in that case.  But not ever case is the same :wink:


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
    #607842 - 02/01/12 04:48 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That's more than just a red stem though.  That thing is pretty yellow.


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Miscusi]
    #607845 - 02/01/12 04:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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cloneufc said:
Some people claim the red stemmed plants were their best plants. This seems to be common. I guess time will tell.





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Miscusi said:
The few red stems i got seemed to be very vigorous plants... Thats IME.  So id rule out deficiency in that case. 




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Harry_Ba11sach said:
extra strong pheno, it could be the only seedling showing signs of deficiency because it's the most aggressive feeder.




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Re: My first mutation! [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #607846 - 02/01/12 04:57 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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hawksapprentice said:
That's more than just a red stem though.  That thing is pretty yellow.




Who knows.. lol

One thing I can say for sure,Its not going to die if given love and care, It will turn out to be a nice plant (if it doesn't grow balls n bananas)


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
    #607849 - 02/01/12 05:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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cloneufc said:I guess time will tell.




True! Keep us updated :wink:


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: RasJeph]
    #607951 - 02/02/12 04:37 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Check this out. Here's a unique pheno call Asian Fantasy. It's reported to be one of the stronger strains to exist. The stem is all red. Click the green box, the growery upload is currenty down at the moment.




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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
    #607959 - 02/02/12 05:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Pheno of what strain?


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Re: My first mutation! [Re: cloneufc]
    #608021 - 02/02/12 10:11 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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It's reported to be one of the stronger strains to exist.









Strongest in what way? Potency, Yield, Voracity, Tolerance?  That doesn't look like a very healthy plant.


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