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    #607614 - 01/31/12 08:50 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)



This makes me so sick, It makes me want to go to denmark and show those people why you can't spell slaughter without laughter (because I'd be laughing while I'd be merkin dem fools).

So fucking wrong.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607616 - 01/31/12 09:00 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What's so wrong about it?

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: DungenessDank]
    #607617 - 01/31/12 09:03 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The manner in which they are doing it among other things.

I dunno, it kind of makes me want to fire bomb them (granted i want to firebomb a lot of people, like most republicans).

The way they kill them just looks very painful and cruel, and even if it's the only way to kill them is seems so inhumane that I don't think it should be done if that's the way they have to do it.

Maybe i just care about animals rights to much (sarcasm other people just don't care enough).


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607619 - 01/31/12 09:15 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Then again hopefully they will stop anyways considering the fact it's toxic to eat the meat.

I can only hope.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607620 - 01/31/12 09:17 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Meat isn't pretty.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: DungenessDank]
    #607621 - 01/31/12 09:20 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Meat isn't pretty.




Elaborate?

Generally speaking killing in a single blow with minimal pain is considered the way to do it.

And anyone that doesn't do that deserves to be raped by razor-wire.

and so halfway through blowing me the hooker OD's on heroin!


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607623 - 01/31/12 09:42 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I agree, but there may be a reason they don't use guns to hunt them.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: DungenessDank]
    #607625 - 01/31/12 10:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree, but there may be a reason they don't use guns to hunt them.




And my point if if you can't kill them quickly, fairly painlessly, and humanely. You shouldn't harvest said meat. And in that particular case I do in fact find their actions morally wrong.

Regardless the meats still toxic so i guess they're punishing themselves. GOGO MERCURY!


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint] * 3
    #607629 - 01/31/12 10:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for providing the lulz

i want to go on an exclusive dolphin murdering and sightseeing trip to denmark

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607630 - 01/31/12 10:13 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Generally speaking killing in a single blow with minimal pain is considered the way to do it.

And anyone that doesn't do that deserves to be raped by razor-wire.





While I would like to agree, there was recently a giant shitstorm in my country and the cattle industry lost millions because the Gov decided those bastard dog Indonesians weren't allowed to mutilate our cows anymore and considered stopped shipping them over, and even that didn't last long.

I can guarantee some of the burgers you've eaten have suffered more than those Dolphins, you just don't hear about it on the news as much because Hayden Panettiere hasn't gotten her tits out crying about it yet.



EDIT: That's the cencered version, there was a special on TV not too long ago with uber graphic video on how they are treated


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: T-Rex]
    #607631 - 01/31/12 10:16 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

And I'd like those douchers acting that way to cows to learn what the word laughter is in slaughter as well.

Sometimes I wish I had a shitty enough life i'd be ok with going on a rampage.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607632 - 01/31/12 10:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

No doubt, the instant I find that notebook from Deathnote/ master the art of invisibility and teleportation some people will die, untill then I just try to teach people how to keep their animals safe and healthy


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: T-Rex]
    #607634 - 01/31/12 10:38 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Oh god, the shit i would do with a deathnote.

I wouldn't even be as stupid as him. Screw petty thugs, the enablers and corporate bastards are the ones who deserve those heart attacks.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint] * 2
    #607642 - 01/31/12 12:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Ignorance.  The practice of harvesting and eating these whales is very old, and has a negligible effect on the environment when compared to raising livestock.  If you want to think that your culture is in some way superior to theirs because they kill the meat themselves instead of paying others to do it, that is fine with me.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: SmOakland]
    #607643 - 01/31/12 12:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Ignorance.  The practice of harvesting and eating these whales is very old, and has a negligible effect on the environment when compared to raising livestock.  If you want to think that your culture is in some way superior to theirs because they kill the meat themselves instead of paying others to do it, that is fine with me.




I think that killing animals without killing them quickly is inhumane.
I think "tradition" is never an excuse for anything.
You're acting like I didn't know the harvesting was old, and that it had little effect on the environment.
implying I ever care what smoakland ever says

I don't think it's wrong because they do it, I think it's wrong because it's not quick and relatively painless. It's my opinion that anyone that kills an animal in a way that isn't quick and painless deserves to get fucked with a dildo covered in glass shards.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #607647 - 01/31/12 12:56 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I think "tradition" is never an excuse for anything.





This is a domestic issue too.  We let our Indians kill some whales every once in a while because it is part of their culture.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: SmOakland]
    #607648 - 01/31/12 01:02 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Actually it is illegal now, but it shouldn't be.  Do you think all hunting should be illegal BDS?

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: SmOakland]
    #607649 - 01/31/12 01:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Actually it is illegal now, but it shouldn't be.  Do you think all hunting should be illegal BDS?




if the death isn't quick and relatively painless?

Yes.

Otherwise it's inhumane to do so.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: SmOakland]
    #607654 - 01/31/12 01:46 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Ignorance.  The practice of harvesting and eating these whales is very old, and has a negligible effect on the environment when compared to raising livestock.  If you want to think that your culture is in some way superior to theirs because they kill the meat themselves instead of paying others to do it, that is fine with me.





Pilot whales are endangered.  I'd say that has a pretty big impact on the environment.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #607663 - 01/31/12 03:09 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Ignorance.  The practice of harvesting and eating these whales is very old, and has a negligible effect on the environment when compared to raising livestock.  If you want to think that your culture is in some way superior to theirs because they kill the meat themselves instead of paying others to do it, that is fine with me.





Pilot whales are endangered.  I'd say that has a pretty big impact on the environment.




Not true.  Look it up.  And read this:  http://www.nmfs.noaa.gov/pr/species/mammals/cetaceans/pilotwhale_longfinned.htm

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: SmOakland]
    #607666 - 01/31/12 03:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilot_whale


On the right hand side.


And on that link you had, it said it was on the low risk. 

According to the IUCN we don't have enough of information to actually know at this point what the population trends are doing.  And if that's the case maybe it's not a great idea to be doing mass killings of them. 

And them putting them on low risk actually indicated that they are a species that needs to be watched.  Just not as closely as some others that are more critical at this point.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint] * 1
    #607723 - 01/31/12 10:20 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Thebooedocksaint, I agree with you 100%. However, if you think Denmark is bad, you don't even want to look into Japan... I watched a documentary on Japanese dolphin slaughter a while ago. Basically, they corral these dolphins by freaking them out hitting these long metal poles in the water, tie em up in a net; then they pick the "best" few to sell to places like Seaworld and kill the rest in a similar manner to the Dutch. However, the point was made in the documentary that dolphins have an extremely high toxic level of mercury. This was all focused on one small fishing village in Japan. And these people fucking knew it! so they lied on the labels of meat they'd sell at stores calling it mackrel or dog or some shit. But in defense of the "tradition" of their local economy, these shady fuckers lied and people got sick- not overtly but like birth defects, sinility. There was even some rule that said it was mandatory that Japanese school children had to eat EVERYTHING in their school lunch. Guesss what? There was fucking dolphin. Oh oh but get this, shit changed because a town council member's child went to that school.

It also mentioned some sort of Japanese treaty to not massacre dolphins and I think that's why this fishing village was dead serious about it's secrecy. And if there's an agreement on paper saying we shouldn't kill dolphins [openly] it's because deep down in our conscience, we know it's wrong, especially in light of the brutality of it.


A. It's toxic to eat.
B. As much as we deny it, everything we do affects the environment for better or worse. Whether they're endangered or not, to say this doesn't have an affect on the environment is such a sign of human arrogance and ignorance. Driving your car affects the environment doesn't it? So killing thousands and thousands of dolphins every year by ambushing them on their annual mating routes just might leave a slightly larger differently shaped footprint.
C. Dolphins are fucking cool.
D. To even argue whether or not they're endangered being the sole pivot of consideration as to if it affects the environment is just  :facepalm:

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    #607728 - 01/31/12 10:35 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Thebooedocksaint, I agree with you 100%. However, if you think Denmark is bad, you don't even want to look into Japan... I watched a documentary on Japanese dolphin slaughter a while ago. Basically, they corral these dolphins by freaking them out hitting these long metal poles in the water, tie em up in a net; then they pick the "best" few to sell to places like Seaworld and kill the rest in a similar manner to the Dutch. However, the point was made in the documentary that dolphins have an extremely high toxic level of mercury. This was all focused on one small fishing village in Japan. And these people fucking knew it! so they lied on the labels of meat they'd sell at stores calling it mackrel or dog or some shit. But in defense of the "tradition" of their local economy, these shady fuckers lied and people got sick- not overtly but like birth defects, sinility. There was even some rule that said it was mandatory that Japanese school children had to eat EVERYTHING in their school lunch. Guesss what? There was fucking dolphin. Oh oh but get this, shit changed because a town council member's child went to that school.

It also mentioned some sort of Japanese treaty to not massacre dolphins and I think that's why this fishing village was dead serious about it's secrecy. And if there's an agreement on paper saying we shouldn't kill dolphins [openly] it's because deep down in our conscience, we know it's wrong, especially in light of the brutality of it.


A. It's toxic to eat.
B. As much as we deny it, everything we do affects the environment for better or worse. Whether they're endangered or not, to say this doesn't have an affect on the environment is such a sign of human arrogance and ignorance. Driving your car affects the environment doesn't it? So killing thousands and thousands of dolphins every year by ambushing them on their annual mating routes just might leave a slightly larger differently shaped footprint.
C. Dolphins are fucking cool.
D. To even argue whether or not they're endangered being the sole pivot of consideration as to if it affects the environment is just  :facepalm:






Quite fucking true......


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Hawksresurrection]
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    #607743 - 01/31/12 11:31 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

:uh:

prehensile dick?

vaginae that can grab your foot and drag you into deep water?

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    #607779 - 02/01/12 04:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Don't mess with the cloaca.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: DungenessDank]
    #607812 - 02/01/12 01:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hindus probably think the same about our penchant for beef.  Lacking any rational basis for why such is actually a bad practice, it's all based on cultural norms and perceptions, and no different than an appeal to tradition

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    #607978 - 02/02/12 07:14 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Hindus probably think the same about our penchant for beef.  Lacking any rational basis for why such is actually a bad practice, it's all based on cultural norms and perceptions, and no different than an appeal to tradition




Other than the fact we at least humanely kill our cows, or are supposed to anyways.

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint] * 1
    #607981 - 02/02/12 07:24 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Hindus probably think the same about our penchant for beef.  Lacking any rational basis for why such is actually a bad practice, it's all based on cultural norms and perceptions, and no different than an appeal to tradition




Other than the fact we at least humanely kill our cows, or are supposed to anyways.





But the cows do not live in humane conditions their entire lives.  Its even worse for pigs and chicken.  You also need to consider that in nature, every death is painful.  An animal either dies of a very virulent disease of they are killed by another animal.

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    #607984 - 02/02/12 07:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

The reality of nature is that the world is a brutal place.

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    #607985 - 02/02/12 07:40 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Hindus probably think the same about our penchant for beef.  Lacking any rational basis for why such is actually a bad practice, it's all based on cultural norms and perceptions, and no different than an appeal to tradition




Other than the fact we at least humanely kill our cows, or are supposed to anyways.





But the cows do not live in humane conditions their entire lives.  Its even worse for pigs and chicken.  You also need to consider that in nature, every death is painful.  An animal either dies of a very virulent disease of they are killed by another animal.




And I hold ourselves to higher standards because we're intelligent sentient beings that can avoid said pain.

And some cows live in humane conditions. I've seen plenty of them living in Rural kansas.


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    #607992 - 02/02/12 08:12 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Hindus probably think the same about our penchant for beef.  Lacking any rational basis for why such is actually a bad practice, it's all based on cultural norms and perceptions, and no different than an appeal to tradition




Other than the fact we at least humanely kill our cows, or are supposed to anyways.




I take it it you're absolutely unfamiliar with what goes on in your average slaughterhouse?

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    #607993 - 02/02/12 08:19 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I am familiar with laws relating to slaughter houses from American History Class/Government class (I don't remember which it was).

Whether they follow it or not my point has been that the ideal is for there to be little pain for the animal, and I have little respect for those that wouldn't enforce such laws.

In my opinion anyone not enforcing such laws should get fucked by a chainsaw. :shrug:

Are you aware of regulations relating to slaughterhouses?


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    #608000 - 02/02/12 09:18 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

They seem to work on every non-politically connected corporation quite well.

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    #608002 - 02/02/12 09:21 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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They seem to work on every non-politically connected corporation quite well.




And that's why they need to die in a fire clearly?

I really wish nothing but death on people that cause corruption. :shrug:

Just because some places don't follow them doesn't change the fact that it's the ideal situations that I support. I in fact wish nothing but pain and suffering for those that fail to follow those particular laws. :feelsgoodman:


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    #608004 - 02/02/12 09:32 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Then why don't you go stop them? Surely if you see nothing wrong with collectively stopping them, there is nothing wrong with an individual stopping them.

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    #608005 - 02/02/12 09:38 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Then why don't you go stop them? Surely if you see nothing wrong with collectively stopping them, there is nothing wrong with an individual stopping them.




Because I don't feel like throwing my life away to do so? The chances of getting caught to do the kind of things i'd want to do them isn't worth it.

Just because i was nothing but pain and suffering upon corrupt people doesn't mean I'm going to throw away my mostly awesome life just to stop them? Plus once I'm older I can always do the whole "protest/enter politics/etc..." kind of stuff to try to stop it (or just wait until there is an easier way to accomplish my desires that wouldn't land me in jail).


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #608007 - 02/02/12 09:41 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I am familiar with laws relating to slaughter houses from American History Class/Government class (I don't remember which it was).

Whether they follow it or not my point has been that the ideal is for there to be little pain for the animal, and I have little respect for those that wouldn't enforce such laws.

In my opinion anyone not enforcing such laws should get fucked by a chainsaw. :shrug:

Are you aware of regulations relating to slaughterhouses?




yes, are you aware of the difference between regulation and actual enforcement?

Also, I suggest reading up on the recent SC case concerning downer animals in California, or the fact that many commercially produced species do not fall under humane slaughter regulation (chickens being a big one)

PS you're likely talking about Upton Sinclair's jungle, but that mainly concerned health and safety issues for the worker and consumer(mainly the later), not humane treatment

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    #608009 - 02/02/12 09:47 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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I am familiar with laws relating to slaughter houses from American History Class/Government class (I don't remember which it was).

Whether they follow it or not my point has been that the ideal is for there to be little pain for the animal, and I have little respect for those that wouldn't enforce such laws.

In my opinion anyone not enforcing such laws should get fucked by a chainsaw. :shrug:

Are you aware of regulations relating to slaughterhouses?




yes, are you aware of the difference between regulation and actual enforcement?

Also, I suggest reading up on the recent SC case concerning downer animals in California, or the fact that many commercially produced species do not fall under humane slaughter regulation (chickens being a big one)regulation

PS you're likely talking about Upton Sinclair's jungle, but that mainly concerned health and safety issues for the worker and consumer(mainly the later)




I've actually never read the jungle.
But now that you mention that i probably either learned about it in Government/Debate. I suppose a lot of laws I've learned are from debate so it's perfectly possible.

And obviously i know the difference if in the original post you quoted me in I meantioned that the laws may or may not be followed. I mean I can quote it for you so you can realize I literally said it's how it's supposed to be according to law.

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Other than the fact we at least humanely kill our cows, or are supposed to anyways.






Did that not make it clear enough that i was aware it probably wasn't followed 100%?


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    #608010 - 02/02/12 09:48 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Then why don't you go stop them? Surely if you see nothing wrong with collectively stopping them, there is nothing wrong with an individual stopping them.




Because I don't feel like throwing my life away to do so? The chances of getting caught to do the kind of things i'd want to do them isn't worth it.

Just because i was nothing but pain and suffering upon corrupt people doesn't mean I'm going to throw away my mostly awesome life just to stop them? Plus once I'm older I can always do the whole "protest/enter politics/etc..." kind of stuff to try to stop it (or just wait until there is an easier way to accomplish my desires that wouldn't land me in jail).




Isn't your ideal rather meaningless (and superficial) if it only exists on a piece of paper, and with the sole intent of making you feel better while you snuggle up to that baconator?

I mean, if the issue is animal cruelty, and the meat processing and commercial farming industry is notorious for such, you should be disavowing such products, right?  Otherwise it seems your disgust is more based on not seeing dolphin as a traditional food and driven by how cutsie they are

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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: kyuzo]
    #608011 - 02/02/12 09:53 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It's not my fault people don't follow laws. :shrug:

Personally I hate vegi's so if I were to stop eating mean I'd be mashed potatoes/Mac n' cheese for life.

Just because i don't go out an firebomb a place I think deserves firebombed right now when I'm barely in my 20's doesn't mean I'm not going to do something after I graduate and have a shit ton of free time?

I'm just as against poor treatment to domestic animals as I am to dolphins, and since my problem with the dolphin slaughter is with the people killing them I think my problem with those slaughtering cows/pigs without following regulations that prevent said pain is perfectly logical. :shrug:


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: DungenessDank]
    #608030 - 02/02/12 10:55 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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The reality of nature is that the world is a brutal place.



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    #608438 - 02/05/12 10:07 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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The reality of nature is that the world is a brutal place.



QFT!




You should consider that a large proportion of the world gets its meat from hunting, often times with primitive weapons.  Those two examples of cetacean hunts were relatively humane.  Saying that the people in the video should somehow be "above" everyone else and every other species in the world is ridiculous and culturally insensitive.  The cows you see being treated well make up a small percentage of cows in the US, and it is likely that even though you see them grazing in a pasture, a large proportion of their life is spent pent up standing in piles of feces.

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    #608484 - 02/05/12 05:59 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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The reality of nature is that the world is a brutal place.



QFT!




You should consider that a large proportion of the world gets its meat from hunting, often times with primitive weapons.  Those two examples of cetacean hunts were relatively humane.  Saying that the people in the video should somehow be "above" everyone else and every other species in the world is ridiculous and culturally insensitive.  The cows you see being treated well make up a small percentage of cows in the US, and it is likely that even though you see them grazing in a pasture, a large proportion of their life is spent pent up standing in piles of feces.






Man if your hunting for survival that's completely different than what was happening here.  You really should compare the 2.  In the past it would make sense for this small island to do this type of culling to survive the harsh northern winters.  But that is no longer the case.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #608485 - 02/05/12 06:21 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

What if their country has outlawed personal ownership of guns?

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    #608487 - 02/05/12 06:26 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

That has nothing to do with what I was getting at.  What these people are doing is not for survival.  It's a coming of age tradition, at least according to that article, and slaughtering and animal to say hey look at me I'm a man now isn't right. 

Like I said I have NO problem with hunting for survival.  But this isn't even hunting.  If they were doing it like the Inuit hunt whale I wouldn't have a problem with it. 


And your response doesn't really make sense in response to what I had posted.


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    #608488 - 02/05/12 06:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

And hunting whales with a gun??  Come on man.


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Re: Dolphin Slaughter {VERY GRAPHIC CONTENT} [Re: Hawksresurrection]
    #608513 - 02/05/12 07:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

So people shouldn't kill whales because other people don't like it?

I don't think people should smoke weed because other people don't like it.

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    #608518 - 02/05/12 08:49 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Smoking weed and killing an animal is a VERY stupid comparison.  You can do better than that.  You might as well say I shouldn't beat my wife because people don't like it..


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    #608555 - 02/06/12 04:22 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

You shouldn't beat your wife because she has the human right not to be beat. Dolphins have no rights other than the ones superficially imposed on them.

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    #608568 - 02/06/12 07:31 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

hawks- the fact that you value the feelings and lives of dolphins more than cows, pigs, chicken, or sheep is due to your biases.  Nobody in the first world NEEDS to kill for survival, but if you eat 99% of mcommercial meat you are paying for carnage of greater scale than what is happening in the vid.

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    #608613 - 02/06/12 07:13 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

fuck dolphins,it's bob marley's birthday.


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    #608614 - 02/06/12 07:15 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

dolphin slaughter is actually the name of my newest anti-animal-rights group band.

Ever heard tweaked salughterd dolphin noises to dubstep backdrops?

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    #608636 - 02/06/12 09:10 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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hawks- the fact that you value the feelings and lives of dolphins more than cows, pigs, chicken, or sheep is due to your biases.  Nobody in the first world NEEDS to kill for survival, but if you eat 99% of mcommercial meat you are paying for carnage of greater scale than what is happening in the vid.






Where did I ever state this??


I understand that your trying to infer this since I am speaking up in defense of one animal.  But that is a really weak conclusion. 

I'm a vegetarian man. 

I don't have a problem with people who eat meat.  I have a problem with the way the animals are treated.  I don't care if your killing an animal if it's for your survival.  But what's going on is not for that, as is our beef/chicken/and swine industry.  And all animal products I DO consume come from local certified humane farms.


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    #608707 - 02/07/12 01:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

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Thebooedocksaint, I agree with you 100%. However, if you think Denmark is bad, you don't even want to look into Japan... I watched a documentary on Japanese dolphin slaughter a while ago. Basically, they corral these dolphins by freaking them out hitting these long metal poles in the water, tie em up in a net; then they pick the "best" few to sell to places like Seaworld and kill the rest in a similar manner to the Dutch. However, the point was made in the documentary that dolphins have an extremely high toxic level of mercury. This was all focused on one small fishing village in Japan. And these people fucking knew it! so they lied on the labels of meat they'd sell at stores calling it mackrel or dog or some shit. But in defense of the "tradition" of their local economy, these shady fuckers lied and people got sick- not overtly but like birth defects, sinility. There was even some rule that said it was mandatory that Japanese school children had to eat EVERYTHING in their school lunch. Guesss what? There was fucking dolphin. Oh oh but get this, shit changed because a town council member's child went to that school.

It also mentioned some sort of Japanese treaty to not massacre dolphins and I think that's why this fishing village was dead serious about it's secrecy. And if there's an agreement on paper saying we shouldn't kill dolphins [openly] it's because deep down in our conscience, we know it's wrong, especially in light of the brutality of it.


A. It's toxic to eat.
B. As much as we deny it, everything we do affects the environment for better or worse. Whether they're endangered or not, to say this doesn't have an affect on the environment is such a sign of human arrogance and ignorance. Driving your car affects the environment doesn't it? So killing thousands and thousands of dolphins every year by ambushing them on their annual mating routes just might leave a slightly larger differently shaped footprint.
C. Dolphins are fucking cool.
D. To even argue whether or not they're endangered being the sole pivot of consideration as to if it affects the environment is just  :facepalm:





I reply to every comment with this. Even though a lot of them are hilariously stupid and meant to be ignored. You fuckers are seeming to forget the endpoint. Hint: It ain't so the world won't starve.


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