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Offlinegrod31
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how likely does this sound.
    #602991 - 12/27/11 02:20 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Talked to my friend he told me "barneys guaranteed all female seeds he popped 8 seeds of Acapulco gold , he got 3 males, kept 2 of them and with the same pollen back bred ag 3 times then crossed w the Hawaiian  snow and back crossed another 3 times to stabilize "

how likely does this sound to you guys.
even if its 100% true how stable could all of that femmed genectics be?


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: grod31]
    #603013 - 12/27/11 09:17 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

If they are feminized seeds, they should all be female.
However, if a plant is stressed, it could make them turn into males or hermaphrodites.
It is always a good idea to space your seedlings a minimum 12" apart and a minimum 16 hours of light.
Soil temp. and air temp. also play a contributing factor.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: jimi_mac]
    #603170 - 12/28/11 01:16 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

anyone else... ?


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: grod31]
    #603200 - 12/28/11 08:07 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Well I'd have to say he's a lucky man to stabilize a strain so quickly.
But what I consider stable may differ from others.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: Stoneth]
    #603241 - 12/29/11 10:15 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Well if he was working with relatively stable strains to begin with (Barneys is very good imo) the result is always gonna be pretty sweet.

When you're working with something that only has a handful of phenos to begin with (on both sides) crossing a couple times probably should eliminate some weird mystery phenos.

This is just my assumptions, and I'm not speaking from experience at all. I think it sorta makes sense taking that into consideration is all.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: RasJeph] * 1
    #603254 - 12/29/11 02:09 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I've herd from a few breeder friends of mine about this question, they say it can take many years to stabilize a strain so all the offspring have the same traits. From what they tell me seeds that give rise to multiple Phenos are not even close to being stable, even if you always get the same few phenotypes from the parents.

But they also said, while its very unlikely, you could luck out and get a stable hybrid in the first few generations of seeds.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: HempMaster]
    #603325 - 12/30/11 11:36 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

cool,
so basically you guys think its possible he got the males from the feminized seeds.
but its unlikely that the strain is stable.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: grod31]
    #603327 - 12/30/11 12:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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grod31 said:
cool,
so basically you guys think its possible he got the males from the feminized seeds.
but its unlikely that the strain is stable.




From what i know you never want to use femmed seeds to breed with, once you get a stable strain then you feminize it.

femmed plants will seed themselves if allowed to fully mature, thats why most femmed strains have a shorter flower period than their regular counterparts.. I discovered this in my last grow, was growing Mazar femmed and i let them flower longer than i should have apparently, luckily i caught it early and only ended up with about 60 seeds from 12 plants...

As for getting males from femmed seeds i'm sure its possible but its only supposed to happen when the plant has been really stressed and usually they go hermie rather than fully male from what i have herd.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: HempMaster]
    #603400 - 12/31/11 10:37 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

i have grown a number of feminized plants weeks past there "finish" date and have only seen Hermie flowers one time.
i understand everything that has been told to me.
Im really just curious as to how likely you guys think that story is as a whole.

so are your 60 seeds feminized or garbage Hermies?


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: grod31]
    #603423 - 12/31/11 05:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I still say unlikely, but yet not totally impossible.
One I don't feel Barnie's Farm has much stability in their strains to start with.
I don't know what method they use to product their female seeds, but methods like STS, and CS are said to be anywhere from 99.5 to 99.9% female.  Which only leaves a window of 0.5% chance of male.
However some other methods suck ass and have a much higher window for males and hermies.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: Stoneth]
    #603435 - 12/31/11 07:11 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Stoneth said:
One I don't feel Barnie's Farm has much stability in their strains to start with.






Of all the breeders out there....which would you say (in your oppinion) has the most stable strains stoney?


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: grod31]
    #603438 - 12/31/11 07:32 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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grod31 said:
so are your 60 seeds feminized or garbage Hermies?




only about 1/2 were fully developed, i gave them to a grower friend, but she hasn't popped any as far as i know. Next time i talk to her i'll ask.

Personally i think if u want truly stable genetics buy regular type seeds of a strain that's been around a long time and is 100% stable, and sex out a female to clone from.

until femmed seeds came along i had never even seen a hermie LOL


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #603444 - 12/31/11 09:38 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Farmer Joe said:
Quote:

Stoneth said:
One I don't feel Barnie's Farm has much stability in their strains to start with.






Of all the breeders out there....which would you say (in your oppinion) has the most stable strains stoney?



In my limited experience Serious Seeds, Mr. Nice, Mandala Seeds, and cali connection.
I have many, many more breeders to experience tho.

I've grown a couple of Barnie's farms strains, LSD, and Blue Cheese.
Ten of each and neither were stable, LSD showing five different traits, and Blue Cheese showing eight.
All were great smoke tho.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: Stoneth]
    #603446 - 12/31/11 09:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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In my limited experience Serious Seeds, Mr. Nice, Mandala Seeds, and cali connection.
I have many, many more breeders to experience tho.





My favs are Dutch Passion and Sensi.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: Stoneth]
    #603449 - 12/31/11 10:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

good to know. I almost ordered barney's Vanilla Kush the last time i went through attitude. there's so many breeders out there....hard to be confident in your choice with that shit.


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Re: how likely does this sound. [Re: Farmer Joe]
    #603525 - 01/01/12 02:16 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

cool thanks for all the opinion bsicly ther is about a >1 chance that this croos is stable apupolco gold X Hawaiian snow
thats what i figured  it was such an outrages thing for me to find ( to good to be true)
i only have 6 seeds so i guess send me vibes for a good pheno(S)


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