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Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress
    #599872 - 12/05/11 10:15 PM (5 years, 2 days ago)

As I understand, even if a plant is put in flowering (12/12 lighting schedule) from the moment it sprouts, it will still vegetate for a certain period of time. im guessing this will probably stress/stun/stretch the plant and the end result will not be worth the time and effort (not to mention space in the flower room).

My dilemma is that I have 3 seedlings (2-4 days old) and 2 2 week old plants, which are all from bag seed, but I just ran into lots of official seeds, so I definitely dont want to keep the bag seed plants as mothers (which is what I was gonna do). Plus, I just harvested, so the closet is half empty:/

My question is what is the minimum amount of time i could keep the bag seed seedlings in veg to minimize stress? I'm planning on cutting off any branches and using galon pots. Also, can I trow the two girls(hopefully) that are 2 weeks old in flower right now? I heard that red light and long "nights" induce males in earlly stages, can someone verify this? If so, how long until the plant "decides" on it's sex?


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: Dimo114]
    #599873 - 12/05/11 10:19 PM (5 years, 2 days ago)

You can go 12/12 from seed if you don't care about yields.


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: 81renaissance]
    #599891 - 12/06/11 12:00 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

and even then with the right stock a half ounce+ is still not a problem.

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Dimo114 said:how long untill the plant "decides" on it's sex?



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a planti is put in flowering (12/12 lighting schedule) from the moment it sprouts, it will still vegetate for a certain period of time.




about 2 weeks.


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: 81renaissance]
    #599898 - 12/06/11 12:24 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

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You can go 12/12 from seed if you don't care about yields.




Aw cmon man, thats like sayin "you can work at mcdonalds if you dont care how much u get paid". Don't get me wrong, I love the process, but its bud im after lol.
Or do you mean it will flower right away? As in develop flowers as it grows?


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: Dimo114]
    #599913 - 12/06/11 01:35 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

what do you want to hear man?
it really depends on your genetics and flowering conditions


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: grod31]
    #599914 - 12/06/11 01:50 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

Sorry, didnt mean to offend you or w.e
I was hoping you'd elaborate on what you are saying, as I don't know what the best thing to do here is. This is why I made this thread o.O ...and yes, I tried the search function and google.

So, what would cause me to have extriemly low yields?

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it really depends on your genetics and flowering conditions




What are the flowering conditions I need to achieve?

I really didnt mean to send out any bad vibes :sorry:


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: Dimo114]
    #599919 - 12/06/11 02:13 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

It boils down to, how tall you want the plants in question, and genetics.
If I was going to grow a true sativa indoors, I'd most likely go 12/12 from seed to control over all height, and taking in consideration of their flowering time.

And say if I wanted a bunch of 10 to 12 inch indicas, then I'd start them from seed in 12/12.


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: Stoneth]
    #599924 - 12/06/11 02:31 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

Thanks Stoneth!
Well my canopy is completely uneven as it is, but im going to do sog after these last few bag seed plants. Right now I have a 3 1/2ft tall bag seed "sour strain" (if there is such a thing) and 3 12" tall clones (same plant) and a bunch of empty space cause I just harvested 4 autos I had going.
I have a 2ft deep 4ft wide grow space, so the big girl is on the far right, and the hps is on the far left and slanted pointing right. I put up 4 42watt Cf's to compensate for the 2 1/2 ft distance beetween my hps and the clones/autos :frown:. I only flowered it cause I was gonna use it for a mother, but this strain takes 2-3 weeks to root, so I threw her in right after discovering that....she was 11" at the time...i guessed 2 ft at most after the stretch.  :goat:
Yeah...its really bad in there...i was on the verge of chopping her for hash countless times now.


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: Dimo114]
    #599927 - 12/06/11 02:50 AM (5 years, 2 days ago)

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Well my canopy is completely uneven as it is, but im going to do sog after these last few bag seed plants. Right now I have a 3 1/2ft tall bag seed



Next time you find yourself in this spot, learn to tie them down.
The more even you keep the canopy the better.


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: Dimo114]
    #599950 - 12/06/11 09:38 AM (5 years, 1 day ago)

Well, you asked for the earliest flip with minimal stress, and you can grow from seed at 12/12 without much "stress"...unless the genetics are stupidly easy to hermie.

I had a lot of bagseeds going, and only had enough room for X amount of plants in the veg cabinet. This seedling was about 8 days out of the cube when I put it in the flower room (better than throwing it away, right?)...it ended up female and here she is at 5 weeks:



:shrug: Not bad for something that was just gonna be in the trash. Its about as long as a standard bic lighter.


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Re: Earlyest time to flip w/ minimal stress [Re: A To The K]
    #600406 - 12/08/11 07:48 AM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I'm kind of doing a 12/12 from seed with mine,although I gave em 24/0 for the first five or so days,until I decided to do so.You can easily get an ounce per plant if you grow out the right strains,but then again,you can get tiny plants that only yield a few grams at best if they don't take well to it:crazy:I really think we need experiments done on some major strains to see which ones react better to this newer way of growing:grin:


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