Home | Community | Message Board



Please support our sponsors.

Cannabis, Marijuana, Ganja & Greens >> Cannabis Cultivation

Welcome to the Growery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Amazon Shop for: HPS, pH Test Strips

Jump to first unread post. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]
OfflineGreenHavens
High And Mighty
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/08/11
Posts: 31
Loc: The Great State Of WA Flag
Last seen: 5 years, 1 month
Sad little droopy leaves...
    #573672 - 07/21/11 07:47 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Anyone have any ideas on what is causing our leaves to droop like this? And what do we need to change? Thanks!



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinelucas_southoz
Australian
Male


Registered: 08/28/10
Posts: 434
Last seen: 4 years, 9 months
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
    #573741 - 07/21/11 10:09 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Fill this out


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGreenHavens
High And Mighty
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/08/11
Posts: 31
Loc: The Great State Of WA Flag
Last seen: 5 years, 1 month
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: lucas_southoz]
    #573774 - 07/21/11 11:57 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
Clones

2. How old are your plants?
They are 8 days into 12/12

3. How tall are your plants?
20 Inches

4. What type of hydro system are you using?
Ebb n Flow

5. What brand/type of nutrients are you using?
Bontanicare/Hydrozyme/H2O2

6. What is the Ph of your nutrient solution?
6.1

7. What is the PPM/EC of your tap water?
100

8. What is the PPM/EC of your nutrient solution?
2000+

9. What is the temperature of your nutrient solution?
69 F

10. Does your PPM/EC show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check?
Usually a slight rise

11. Does your pH show a rise or fall when you do your daily check?
A rise

12. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
No

13. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
2 600W HPS

14. How close are your lights to the plants?
18 Inches

15. What size is your grow space in square feet?
156 Square Feet

16. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
Humidity 70-80% Temp 75 F

17. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
No

18. How much experience do you have growing?
First time


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflinePernicious
Stranger Danger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/12/11
Posts: 463
Loc: East Coast
Last seen: 4 years, 7 months
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
    #573885 - 07/22/11 12:05 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

to me it looks like overwatering/lights too close

since your doing hydro how often are you changing your reservoir? aside from too much light/water dirty water will make them look like that too.

for instance im growing soil but i am only using a 400w and anything closer then 20" is too close for my girls because i dont have a cool tube reflector and the space is small. 

whats your room temp at?


Edited by Pernicious (07/22/11 12:09 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisibleMagashM
The Feminizer
 User Gallery


Registered: 04/21/08
Posts: 6,494
Trusted Cultivator
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
    #573986 - 07/23/11 12:31 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

The plants look like they were fed to much phosphorus. (Flowering nutrient)


--------------------
All creatures tremble when faced with violence. All creatures fear death, all love life. If we can only see ourselves in others, then how could we possibly hurt another creature?


:growingweed: Join us at the Growery! :growingweed:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGreenHavens
High And Mighty
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/08/11
Posts: 31
Loc: The Great State Of WA Flag
Last seen: 5 years, 1 month
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: Magash]
    #574440 - 07/24/11 11:12 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Alright, so we fixed the lights being too close to the SSH, and moved all of the SSH under one light to keep them at bay for now. We also changed the watering schedule for the ladies. We had them at 8 flood times per 24 hrs, they are now at 4 flood times (4 floods x 15 min, 3 times during the day, and 1 time at night).

I also have another problem arise...I bought a Hanna digital pH meter, but it only goes up to 2000 ppm, then the screen throws me "---" which I assume is it's maximum threshold. What should I do to measure the ppm in the reservoir? Is there another way to measure it?

I will change the nutrients over to the base and bloom formula later when I change out the reservoir, maybe that could remedy the phosphorus problem we were having? We were running the Base, Grow, and Bloom nutes 1000 ml each to prepare for the aggressive transition phase, but I will switch over to full bloom status.

Thanks guys for all the feedback! Keep growing!


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblebrainsOplenty
ganja farmer
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/11
Posts: 729
Loc: zion
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
    #574573 - 07/25/11 08:00 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

isn't 2000 ppm a bit heavy?


--------------------
it's written right here.
it's absolutely clear.
the ganja herb is the healing of the nation.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGreenHavens
High And Mighty
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/08/11
Posts: 31
Loc: The Great State Of WA Flag
Last seen: 5 years, 1 month
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #574647 - 07/26/11 12:33 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

That's what I thought, however, all of the other strains are kicking serious ass with it, so maybe it's just the Silvers? A 100 gallon reservoir is easy to get a high ppm in.We had to use quite a bit of nutrients to get the formula correct.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflinePernicious
Stranger Danger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/12/11
Posts: 463
Loc: East Coast
Last seen: 4 years, 7 months
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
    #574957 - 07/27/11 08:38 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

iunno man ive never had good results with anything going over the 1400-1600 mark. if its working stick with it but thats a pretty heavy ppm.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblebrainsOplenty
ganja farmer
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/11
Posts: 729
Loc: zion
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
    #574967 - 07/27/11 09:09 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

GreenHavens said:
That's what I thought, however, all of the other strains are kicking serious ass with it, so maybe it's just the Silvers? A 100 gallon reservoir is easy to get a high ppm in.We had to use quite a bit of nutrients to get the formula correct.



you may want to get some advice from one of the TC's around here, but i tend to operate on the "less is more philosophy" i'd seriously consider bringing the ppm down a bit, like 1400-1600 like pernicious said.


--------------------
it's written right here.
it's absolutely clear.
the ganja herb is the healing of the nation.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemuse42
Zomberrific


Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 1,000
Loc: West Coast
Last seen: 5 years, 12 days
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #574984 - 07/27/11 10:33 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

2000+ is too high.  Your plants look over watered and over fed.  Also, 2000+ tells me you don't know your ppm.  It could be 2001 or 2500 or more.


--------------------
It looks like it's going to be another Gravity Bong type day...



Edited by muse42 (07/27/11 10:35 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflineGreenHavens
High And Mighty
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/08/11
Posts: 31
Loc: The Great State Of WA Flag
Last seen: 5 years, 1 month
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: muse42]
    #574996 - 07/27/11 11:45 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)



Hey all! Thanks for all the help. We just did a reservoir change tonight, and it looks as though the plants are much happier. One big change that I think helped them out was purchasing a dehumidifier. Knocked our humidity down by 50%! So now our room is averaging a 80F/45% temp to humidity level. Oh and after the full bloom nutes our ppm is chilling right around 1500 ppm. Oh yeah, Muse : the 2000+ ppm is what I was trying to explain above...the meter got up to 2000 and then said "---".So yes, I had no idea what it was at. At the end of the day, all is well in the land of our green women...


Edited by GreenHavens (07/27/11 11:51 PM)


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
OfflinePernicious
Stranger Danger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/12/11
Posts: 463
Loc: East Coast
Last seen: 4 years, 7 months
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: GreenHavens]
    #575035 - 07/28/11 09:07 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

lol they do look much happier. plants are good at bouncing back when you treat them well :grin:


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
InvisiblebrainsOplenty
ganja farmer
Male User Gallery


Registered: 05/14/11
Posts: 729
Loc: zion
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: Pernicious]
    #575325 - 07/29/11 10:26 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

yay...happy plants:growingweed:


--------------------
it's written right here.
it's absolutely clear.
the ganja herb is the healing of the nation.


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemuse42
Zomberrific


Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 1,000
Loc: West Coast
Last seen: 5 years, 12 days
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: brainsOplenty]
    #575327 - 07/29/11 10:33 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

Great news!


--------------------
It looks like it's going to be another Gravity Bong type day...



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinetrikki
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/10/11
Posts: 5
Last seen: 5 years, 3 months
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: muse42]
    #581377 - 08/27/11 12:42 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

1. Are you growing from seed or clones?
clones

2. How old are your plants?
about 8 weeks

3. How tall are your plants?
1 1/2 feet

4. What size containers are they planted in?
2.6 litter containers

5. What is your soil mix?
miracle grow

6. How often do you water and what type of water do you use?
once a day with filtered water

7. What is the pH of your water?
I dont know

8. What kind of fertilizer do you use and what is its NPK ratio?
Im using humbolt county oneness p-n-k is 5-9-4

9. Do you foliar feed or spray your plants with anything?
no

10. What kind of lights do you use and how many watts combined? (HPS, MH, fluorescent, halogen, incandescent "plant lights")
4 ft 2 lamp t-5 flourescent not sure of watts

11. How close are your lights to the plants?
about 7-10 inches

12. What size is your grow space in square feet?
4 1/2 ft x 3 1/2 ft

13. What is the temperature and humidity in your grow space?
the temp is about 76-78

14. What is the pH of the soil?
not sure

15. Have you noticed any insect activity in your grow space?
found out yesterday I had spider mites. I sprayed with a mite killer

16. How much experience do you have growing?
this is my second grow          please help


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemuse42
Zomberrific


Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 1,000
Loc: West Coast
Last seen: 5 years, 12 days
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: trikki]
    #581402 - 08/27/11 02:31 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

um...  help with what?  The spider mites or something else?

Plus it would be best if you started your own thread in this forum for better responses.


--------------------
It looks like it's going to be another Gravity Bong type day...



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinesean
Male


Registered: 08/07/11
Posts: 212
Last seen: 5 years, 2 months
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: muse42]
    #581403 - 08/27/11 02:35 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

MY tree has two strands that are drooping too, maybe too much water


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinemuse42
Zomberrific


Registered: 04/21/10
Posts: 1,000
Loc: West Coast
Last seen: 5 years, 12 days
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: sean]
    #581415 - 08/27/11 03:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

I would say too much water, if you are watering every day.
Proper watering should be only as the plant needs it.  You will get use to the weight of you plants wet and dry over time, but until then you can check buy sticking your finger in the soil.  When the first 2-3 inches feel bone dry, then it is time to water.  Your temps look great so you should not have to water but every 2-3 days I would guess.  You want to water until you get run off.  Which means you should have plenty of holes in you pots.  I add holes to the store bought pots is use. 10-20 more 1/8 inch holes at least.

I would also say, bad choice of soil, small pots, and above all else you need to know your water and soils pH.  This is very important.


--------------------
It looks like it's going to be another Gravity Bong type day...



Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Offlinetrikki
Stranger
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/10/11
Posts: 5
Last seen: 5 years, 3 months
Re: Sad little droopy leaves... [Re: trikki]
    #581445 - 08/27/11 05:00 PM (5 years, 3 months ago)

my plants have popped back up after a watering but I also think I have a calcium and magnesium deficiency. how do I fix that? the tips of my fan leaves are curling downward and turning brown


Post Extras: Print Post  Remind Me! Notify Moderator
Jump to top. Pages: 1 | 2 | Next >  [ show all ]

Amazon Shop for: HPS, pH Test Strips

Cannabis, Marijuana, Ganja & Greens >> Cannabis Cultivation

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Droopy leaves *pics*
( 1 2 all )
Triptonic 4,230 20 05/07/09 03:16 AM
by Inverted
* droopy leaves 1 week into flushing screekrunner 3,212 8 12/03/10 03:47 PM
by brifunforme
* PLEASE HELP My plants leaves turned dry and droopy overnight ......see pics
shelad
1,592 1 05/10/10 11:50 PM
by Hawksresurrection
* Yellowing leaves on outdoors. DelBoycie 1,375 5 09/04/10 08:53 AM
by DelBoycie
* DWC Outdoor, One plant looking sad. Amphiprion 1,710 9 12/01/10 12:17 PM
by Amphiprion
* Extremely Droopy Plant
( 1 2 all )
Dephect 8,125 20 02/20/10 01:53 PM
by Dephect
* .
Hefe
3,617 15 10/08/08 07:02 PM
by t0ad
* Extremely slow growth, and dying leaves of small plants phaseflux 4,843 10 02/06/09 05:42 PM
by RapidRoots

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: FurrowedBrow, Magash, Dr. Siekadellyk, phychotron
5,136 topic views. 6 members, 297 guests and 79 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Toggle Favorite | Print Topic | Stats ]
Search this thread:
Everything Mushrooms
Please support our sponsors.

Copyright 1997-2016 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.03 seconds spending 0.004 seconds on 16 queries.