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best, easiest set up for noobs
    #57111 - 06/13/08 10:05 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I am new to this site, and was wandering around reading as much as I can, and I was wondering whats you guys take on being a noob and wanting to start a few indoor hydro plants, what would be the easiest, to maintain for a beginner?

I visit a local shop frequently, and they have what looks like the square PVC fence post covers that cover 4x4 posts? with like 6 3-4 inch holes drilled in line, with what look like little black baskets. Not sure, but it looked like there was only one input and on output for each tube. Would be a constant flow system??? thought it would be okay if you wanted to keep smaller plants.
Let me know what you guys think, I want to seriously look into a first set up that will allow me to learn and expand.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: fantasy2reality]
    #57925 - 06/15/08 04:23 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Ebb & flo systems are pretty easy to use, I started out with a  3x3 American Hydroponics table.

you can also make 5gal buckets into Ebb&flo.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: SRH]
    #57959 - 06/15/08 05:30 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

you have any design specs? I am waiting on a book on Hydroponics, but I know that the best experience and set ups come from the people that have done it, and trial and error'd a few times.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: fantasy2reality]
    #57999 - 06/15/08 06:32 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #58219 - 06/15/08 11:12 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

ebb flow is easier than a bubbler? :eek:


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: pong]
    #58248 - 06/15/08 11:45 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lol i dunno bout that plug bubbler in change water once weekly bang zoom


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #58322 - 06/16/08 03:32 AM (8 years, 5 months ago)

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lol i dunno bout that plug bubbler in change water once weekly bang zoom




huh?


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: pong]
    #58421 - 06/16/08 12:20 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

bubbler hydro setup is easier IMO


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #65991 - 06/25/08 06:36 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

DWC is easiest and has the upside of not spreading infection amonst your plants (no shared reservoir)

DWC or deep water culture is the same thing as a "bubbler hydro setup".

Basically you just get a net which can be make shift where your roots grow and a bucket the net sits in filled with nutrient rich water and a bubbler to keep the water airated.

maintaince = changing the water.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: captain.koons]
    #67614 - 06/27/08 08:26 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

I think the DWC is the way to go for me being a beginner into hydro... Now as far as energy use... what would I be looking at for say 4-6 plants?


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: fantasy2reality]
    #67627 - 06/27/08 09:24 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

fuck nothing

those aquarium pumps are like 10-15watts.

10 plants would be the same consumption as a flood table flooding for 15minutes 4 times a day or so.

both = very low energy consumption.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: captain.koons]
    #68613 - 06/29/08 07:55 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Okay, and what would I need for lights?

Is it the same as soil growing?


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: fantasy2reality]
    #68667 - 06/29/08 09:28 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

lights are whatever you want for any grow.

High Pressure Sodium is good

High Pressure Sodium with a MH conversion is better.

High Presure Sodium with another MH setup is even better.


Ballast, Bulb, Reflector = a lighting setup... air cooled reflectors are better, digital ballasts are more effective and some bulbs have better energy usage and even sometimes more wattage. (a argos bulb will do 430w on a 400w ballast)


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: captain.koons]
    #68960 - 06/30/08 08:14 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

Good quality spectrum adjusted HPS lamps are great for vegging and make MH lamps redundant.  You only really need a HPS these days.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: Hanky]
    #69689 - 07/01/08 11:57 PM (8 years, 5 months ago)

yeah but if you have a vegging room and a flower room

you would still want a MH over a HPS.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: fantasy2reality]
    #175623 - 01/05/09 08:58 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

hmm


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: Hanky]
    #175958 - 01/06/09 12:06 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Good quality spectrum adjusted HPS lamps are great for vegging and make MH lamps redundant.  You only really need a HPS these days.




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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #175961 - 01/06/09 12:07 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Agreed.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: C3R3AL KiLLRx]
    #175965 - 01/06/09 12:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Good quality spectrum adjusted HPS lamps are great for vegging and make MH lamps redundant.  You only really need a HPS these days.







You would be kind of silly to dedicate HPS lamps to a veg room.


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Re: best, easiest set up for noobs [Re: captain.koons]
    #177745 - 01/08/09 10:41 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

you can get HPS bulbs with the adjusted light spectrum more blue but thats what ive read and heard...never tried


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