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How to help bad trips on marijuana?
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So i have taken a 7 month break from marijuana because the last 2 times i smoked scared me away from a beautiful herb.
My heart would start pounding, i would end up freaking out, the second time i got a pressure in my chest. I thought i was going to have a heart attack. But looking back i think it was just anxiety from an increased heart rate or something.
I want to know how i can help this? i plan to take .5 or 1mg xannax, and only taking 1 or 2 tokes.
my main question would be which would be better to not have another bad trip,
Would it be better to smoke regs, mids, high quality to start with?


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner] * 2
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Dude if the shit gives you panic attacks dont smoke it, it aint a beautiful herb if you're scared shitless and thinking you're having a heart attack. Also nobody calls getting high a "trip".
Pot aint for everybody.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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Just slow down your intake and take it one step at a time man. Smoke a little, see how you feel, smoke a little more, and so on and so forth.

If you start to freak out just get one of your friends to get you a glass of water and something to eat and just calm yourself down. Deep breaths, maybe lie down or something, all I know is that in the millions of years people have been smoking nobody has died or been injured from it, so just keep that in mind and you'll be fine. Its all in your head, just chillout and enjoy the high.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: T-Rex]
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+ music.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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And the more you smoke the better it will be over time


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: T-Rex]
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Troof...... but pot makes me really hate bad music and makes me picky about what I listen to.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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most people call bad experiences with marijuana bad trips :shrug:
And i enjoy it way to much to just give it up.
Steve Buscemi said:
Dude if the shit gives you panic attacks dont smoke it, it aint a beautiful herb if you're scared shitless and thinking you're having a heart attack. Also nobody calls getting high a "trip".
Pot aint for everybody.



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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner] * 1
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Just smoke a little bit at a time. Remind yourself you are just high as shit if everything starts getting fucked up.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: DungenessDank]
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I'm going to try and reassure myself that it will pass soon, if anything does happen.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
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i can't help but wonder if this is a psychological problem.  ur thoughts on that?


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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explain what you mean by psychological problem?


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
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if you were to start a smoke session right now what would you be thinking about?


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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i probably couldn't help but think oh god, what if my heart starts racing, and starts this whole mess over again.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner] * 1
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you shouldn't do it again until you can do it without that psychological hurdle to overcome.  that's just my 2 cents.  but shit, im no doctor man.  I just really think that the mindset is a very important factor in these things.  Psychedelics have shown me that.  thoughts are very powerful things, even if not vocalized.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
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I say don't take the xanax
Marijuana is a great herb
it's all in your head man
before smoking meditate a little bit
relax yourself
confront any worries before smoking
realize you will not be in any danger
close your eyes, relax, and take a puff
then relax and enjoy yourself
don't think too much
:bonghit:
follow these instructions:



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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: FRACTALife]
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Don't smoke as much and zone out with a movie or something to distract you... It's like a blessing in disguise though, I miss the days when I would be freaking out and paranoid, now getting high is more like chasing the dragon, except it's more like a fluffy bunny.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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you guys are having some good ideas, keep them coming. :smile:


FurrowedBrow said:
you shouldn't do it again until you can do it without that psychological hurdle to overcome.  that's just my 2 cents.  but shit, im no doctor man.  I just really think that the mindset is a very important factor in these things.  Psychedelics have shown me that.  thoughts are very powerful things, even if not vocalized.


i have been reading about other peoples bad experiences with cannabis, and others claim to have had anxiety attacks from fast heart rate like me. Which is starting to make me calm down a little bit about the whole thing because i'm not alone, and that i'll be safe just like these other people that have gotten through this.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
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iStoner said:
you guys are having some good ideas, keep them coming. :smile:


FurrowedBrow said:
you shouldn't do it again until you can do it without that psychological hurdle to overcome.  that's just my 2 cents.  but shit, im no doctor man.  I just really think that the mindset is a very important factor in these things.  Psychedelics have shown me that.  thoughts are very powerful things, even if not vocalized.


i have been reading about other peoples bad experiences with cannabis, and others claim to have had anxiety attacks from fast heart rate like me. Which is starting to make me calm down a little bit about the whole thing because i'm not alone, and that i'll be safe just like these other people that have gotten through this.



Id bet you have some deep seated psychological issues, does your family have a history of any mental disorders, e.g schizo, bipolar or severe OCD

My family does, schizo, and I personally cannot take mushrooms right now, no matter what It always goes bad, and even if I think its good its not the beautiful euphoria I once had on them, and that I read about from others.. I plan on giving it time, see how I feel in a few years.. It seems like you are doing the same with weed,

I can personally smoke weed all day and not get a bad trip, but if I smoke and something puts me in a bad mindset it can end up going bad, not so bad I can't get myself out of it, but I may be extremely depressed for a few minutes..

If I could recommend anything make a playlist of music about 2 hours long, and wait for a nice sunny day, lay down in the grass, start your playlist and just relax for a bit, the time will come when you say im ready, smoke slowly, Id reccomend mids or ow quality shit to help prevent intense paranoia or fear , smoke a little bit, lay down , listen to a few songs, if you want, after a few songs, smoke a little bit more, continue cycle, enjoy sun, conquer preconceptions and fears :thumbup:

you dont have to hold your tokes in btw, you will get more stoned that way, but it might be too much for you, blowing tokes will get you stoned very easily and not too intense and gradual .

good luck, cannabis is a beautiful herb, its all about finding the beauty

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Harlz]
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I have a family history of severe depression, but nothing else that i know of. I do have hypochondria though. That was probably some of the best advice i have come by, thank you


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
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Glad to help, hope you can overcome these bad trips :smile:

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Harlz]
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i hope you can overcome your mushrooms bad trips also


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner] * 1
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me too, especially since they are like the easiest entheogen to come by :yesnod::mushroom2:

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner] * 1
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I had this same shit happen to me, and it sucked. I quit for a bit to get a job, and once I was able to smoke again, the herb I loved was kicking my ass up and down.

While I STILL haven't *fully* recovered from it, I found the best thing to do was keep smoking. Thing is, you got used to smoking with a tolerance - so odds are, you're smoking way more than you "need to".

I almost quit altogether, but then I had a party with people who also smoked, and had an awesome day. Now that my tolerance is back up, I still get a bit of what you described, but decreased a lot.

I find that 2-3 beers helps take any edge you might be feeling off too.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Harlz]
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I have felt this before after sobriety breaks. Just start with one hit or 2. Then find something to do. Gardening? Hiking? Pretty much anything to use that anxiety for a good purpose. Do it with a friend if possible. Talking to someone while feeling like that does help! Start small! Work up to I again. Your tolerance will pick up fairly quick and this will just be a memory. Trust me.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: SpaceMonkey] * 1
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People are forgetting that pot makes a lot of folks paranoid...... this isn't anything new I have friends that just cant smoke the stuff anymore because it makes them scared as shit of anything and everything. I have a friend that I've literally smoked pounds of weed with in high school who cant take a single hit without thinking he freaking out. He's not nuts he feels fine without pot but when he tries to toke with us he just cant anymore.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi] * 1
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pot doesn't make me paranoid.  the law makes me paranoid.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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Steve Buscemi said:
People are forgetting that pot makes a lot of folks paranoid...... this isn't anything new I have friends that just cant smoke the stuff anymore because it makes them scared as shit of anything and everything. I have a friend that I've literally smoked pounds of weed with in high school who cant take a single hit without thinking he freaking out. He's not nuts he feels fine without pot but when he tries to toke with us he just cant anymore.



and you're saying he isn't nuts? Psychological disorders dont always have to be obvious to be there.. and years of extensive pot smoking can exacerbate these disorders.. sorry but its true

heard of the diagnosis "paranoid schizophrenic" ?

If not look it up, a lot of the symptoms are very reminiscent of a extreme weed, or other psychedelic freakout,

Dont get me wrong I love weed and psychedelics and I think its the individuals choice whether they use them or not, but I also believe and accept evidence whether I like it or not :vaped::shrug:

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Harlz]
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He isn't paranoid schizophrenic though he's been arrested for weed and sent to a goddamn boys home in his teens for smoking it and subsequently tested for every type of behavioral problem and locked up for a year in a rehab/boy homes because of smoking weed. I think it is the law not the pot because without pot he is quite the model citizen.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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I have hypochondria and my family history of depression


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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FurrowedBrow said:
pot doesn't make me paranoid.  the law makes me paranoid.


This and spiders.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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Fuck me too. I'm not scared of them, I like them and won't kill them. But I sure won't turn my back on the one in my shower. :mad2:


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: RasJeph]
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THEY CAN BE ANYWHERE, SNEAKY FUCKERS.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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Steve Buscemi said:
THEY CAN BE ANYWHERE, SNEAKY FUCKERS.




hate those bastards:kingcrankey:

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Harlz]
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I have a tarantula

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Big_tiggy]
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Those are on my dont step on list.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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I used to get paranoid about getting caught when I was sneaking around smoking without a medical license. But now that I'm not as worried about getting caught I don't get paranoid


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: smurf_master]
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Still plenty of things to be paranoid about like spiders, DEA, rippers, nymphos with vd, shitting your pants at work..... I could go on for days.

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Steve Buscemi]
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Sure I guess if you make it a habit to give into irrational fear


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: smurf_master]
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same thing happened to me man.

same thing happened with me and tripping too.


so i stopped.

i didnt stop until a certain time, or until something happened. i just stopped.

then things felt good in my life. i handled shit i needed to handle. and i started tripping again. now its awesome.

i think it has to do with shit in your life, thats buried in your head.

thats how it was for me at least.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: still beLIEve]
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I cant believe how common this is; I havent experienced anything like this except for maybe once in my life and it was probably in my first year of smoking

Like others have said, I would try just smoking less. Your idea of smoking less potent weed is also a good idea. What do you normally smoke? medical marijuana?

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Picklez]
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FurrowedBrow nailed it i think.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Krackatus]
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Well i'm going over to a good friends house tomorrow, that i have smoked with many times before. His place feels like home, so i'll be pretty chill. So if the marijuana comes to me, and i'm feeling good. i may take that hit :vaped:


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
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FurrowedBrow said:
pot doesn't make me paranoid.  the law makes me paranoid.


:bigyesnod:


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
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iStoner said:
Well i'm going over to a good friends house tomorrow, that i have smoked with many times before. His place feels like home, so i'll be pretty chill. So if the marijuana comes to me, and i'm feeling good. i may take that hit :vaped:



good luck, good vibes, dont be scared :bonghit:


maybe you should try smoking salvia, that will make you love the soothing feeling that comes with bud :lol:

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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Harlz]
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Wanted to let you guys know, last night i got high.
I took a small hit from a bong, started to feel some anxiety that i felt before, and then just ignored it.  It went away very fast. So i continued to take a couple more bong hits of this beautiful white widow we had.
:awehigh:


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: iStoner]
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White widow is great, the pheno that I get from my medical clinic always gives me a great head buzz and then I start seeing little white stars and lights.

Good to hear you're conquering the anxiety, it's the worst. I think I traumatized one of my friends by accident with a edible and he won't smoke again haha.


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Re: How to help bad trips on marijuana? [Re: Shaggy420]
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Shaggy420 said:
FurrowedBrow said:
pot doesn't make me paranoid.  the law makes me paranoid.


:bigyesnod:

:hi5:


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