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Should i move them to system ?
    #530899 - 02/26/11 09:54 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hi there
i am a new grower here and i don't know if if put that seedlings to system or should i wait fir them
i am both spraying and giving half strength solution to them
please give me your ideas i don't have any other seeds so i don't have much choice
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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #530923 - 02/26/11 12:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

What kind of system? I would say yes, once roots are poking through you need to do something with them.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: Flying_Dog]
    #530934 - 02/26/11 01:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

my system is atami wilmas dripper system shown in the picture i have a grow tent and 320m3/h fan and 250 w hps with reflector and waiting for 2x 100 w grow lights


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #530938 - 02/26/11 01:17 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Nice, yeah I'd go ahead. Remember 1/10-1/4 strength on the nutes for now.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: Flying_Dog]
    #530987 - 02/26/11 04:25 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

nice. yeah diff, right when mine broke threw the top of my plug there was a baby root on the bottom an i drop them in my dwc system, just becarful w the baby root, but you well see great progress afterward. ill show you a pic of mine after a week an a half

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #531036 - 02/26/11 08:43 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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kopilcom said:
hi there
i am a new grower here and i don't know if if put that seedlings to system or should i wait fir them
i am both spraying and giving half strength solution to them
please give me your ideas i don't have any other seeds so i don't have much choice
thanks





I'd go to the system yes.
But those plants aren't ready for nutes yet.


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: Stoneth]
    #531138 - 02/27/11 01:38 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it shouldnt matter, but just watch the bottom of the rockw there should be a lil sprout, but let me know how it goes.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: jutfan]
    #531180 - 02/27/11 07:03 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)



i saw a small root but only one of 4

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #531305 - 02/27/11 06:22 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

nice thATS exactly how mine looked in the plug. an i put it right in the bucket. heres a picof mine after bout 10 days


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: jutfan]
    #531726 - 03/01/11 08:34 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i moved them to bigger rockwools and tomorrow i will move them (which showed roots) to system
but one is not standing right do you know why is that?


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #531733 - 03/01/11 09:43 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

how far away is the lights? a fan blowing lightly is also good for seedlings i have found out. makes them stronger.


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: lostinbq]
    #531743 - 03/01/11 11:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it is about 3 inches far away from the light, do you think i amde a small stick to support seedling?

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    #531756 - 03/01/11 12:24 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #531758 - 03/01/11 12:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

no only one 100 watt clf

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Re: Should i move them to system ? *DELETED* [Re: kopilcom]
    #531780 - 03/01/11 03:07 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #532093 - 03/02/11 02:23 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i am using the bulb in the picture

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #532138 - 03/02/11 09:01 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

could i use hps for all grow period? and i tested my tent today i build the system in and used 250w hps in it the temprature is 90F is that too high? and what is the highest temp could it be?
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Re: Should i move them to system ? *DELETED* [Re: kopilcom]
    #532167 - 03/02/11 10:19 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #532204 - 03/02/11 11:42 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

thanks for ypur answers

actually i used lots of money and i cant buy anything for a while i am using only a fan which is 320 m3/h should i leave the tents doors open to lower temperature i dont have any other seeds and i want to make them grow and get some seeds and also they are afgan strain
thanks again

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #532207 - 03/02/11 11:46 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes you can use hps for all growth stages, you would have to adjust the distance from plants accordingly though.

I am not familiar with the bulb you are using and whether it is even suitable for growing plants(the osram 100w). But at first glance the seedlings appear light deprived and possible high temps. A spot light is going to generate a lot of heat compared to a simple cfl bulb. 

You can do the seedlings under the hps just keep it far enough away not to be causing any heat damage as they can die very quickly while this young. With hps lighting your nodes will be farther apart than if you used more of a blue spectrum light but it will work very well.

90 degrees is high, not lethal but high. Ideal temps in my opinion are 74-80, and with CO2 slightly higher80-85ish. The high temps will cause some stretch and thinner leaves but by all means still yield well if everything else is in order. When you get to around 100 degrees and it stays there, your plants will suffer more dramatically.






Key word here is not lethal, they will be airy, and low potency.  I had a round a few years back where I balanced in the 90's and ruined the whole crop.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: Flying_Dog]
    #532228 - 03/02/11 12:32 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i set up hps on them now 18/6 hours i wish i wont ruin them

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #532923 - 03/03/11 08:34 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hope all goes well. update pics

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: jutfan]
    #533136 - 03/04/11 07:40 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

thanks i hope it will be ok
i will add some fresh pictures today and i am waiting for your ideas

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #533192 - 03/04/11 09:52 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

pics first, ideas come second lol...


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: lostinbq]
    #533419 - 03/04/11 11:42 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

here is new pictures
sorry not quality pictures but i think you can see
my lights in 18/6 period now and feeding with half strenght solution
i am using atami wilma organics +bloombastic set
and the ph between 5 and 6

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    #533506 - 03/05/11 09:59 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #533527 - 03/05/11 12:05 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

its good to hear that actually i have an important question in 2 months (or 2,5 moths) could i able to harvest them , i have a really important job in May ( i wish it would be in the end of May)
thanks

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #533725 - 03/06/11 04:02 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

The plants are still going to take more time then end of may most likeily. Even if you flipped right now, the plants won't flower till a certain level of maturity is reached. Usually thats around 20 days but can take longer.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: Flying_Dog]
    #533937 - 03/06/11 04:37 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Could I make my lights open 24 hours to speed up vegetative stage?

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #534680 - 03/08/11 01:53 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it is afganhi strain.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #534981 - 03/08/11 09:28 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Should be fast and fast to respond. 24 hrs won't hurt and you will get more growth but thats debatable. From what i have seen 18/6 makes them taller and more distance from node to node. 24 hr keeps them just shy of the 18/6 plant in height but with tighter nodes and a node or two more. I generally always veg 18/6 to save on electric but now that I think of it for some reason I left them on 24 going to go drop that right now.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: Flying_Dog]
    #535048 - 03/09/11 12:27 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

actually my only problem is time (because of appointment) after caring for over 2 months i dont want to lost them.

they are doing right now although i have 2 days electricty lost :smile: they are making their 6th leaves as i see  i will picture them today?

i have another question when should i have give them full strength solution?
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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #535110 - 03/09/11 10:08 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i lost my power before and used the awesome powerful sun. and still no hermie during the flowering.


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #535229 - 03/09/11 04:08 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Shut off by a act of nature or just shut off? PM me if it was shut off I will tell you how to turn it back on. If you don't pay withn 24 hrs of turning it back on it can result in a felony usually they come out to turn it off again if it goes back on your in a world of shit. This info for those that pay to late in the day for them to come out, not to defy utility companies you will get arrested!

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: Flying_Dog]
    #535419 - 03/10/11 12:21 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

it is turned off naturally due to heavy snow. i used 250 w hps that dont make much bills for me. where i am living people using electric heater i dont use heater but lamp :wink:
i changed to lights 24 h on, and wow hydroponics seem really fast

what do you think about them here is new pictures


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #536197 - 03/12/11 03:09 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

is 24 hours makes a faster development or should i turn to 18/6 ?

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #536251 - 03/12/11 10:48 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

they say 24 hrs makes it grow faster but other pplz say that the 18/6 has properties to make roots grow faster witch causes great plant growth. most will say that 18/6 saves wear and tare on equipment and cut electric costs. really it is all in your own preference. i go 24/0 for first 3 weeks myself then 18/6 then 16/8 till flowering or sex is determined.

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: lostinbq]
    #537074 - 03/15/11 04:17 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

hi there thanks for your answers
my plants now 10 inch (25 cm) long if i change the lights to flowering will they start to produce some buds? i think the crop will be small but i dont have much time and i dont want to destroy them. at least i will get a few grams

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #537147 - 03/15/11 01:48 PM (13 years, 1 month ago)

here is some freash pictures
are they looking good?


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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: wishcouldeletethis]
    #537363 - 03/16/11 09:40 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

i will change the lights 12/12 i know i will very little yield although i dont know their sex now

my question do they both flower and grow? and what do you think the yield will be?

and i will give full strength solution right?

thanks

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #538064 - 03/19/11 05:05 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

any ideas?

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Re: Should i move them to system ? [Re: kopilcom]
    #538088 - 03/19/11 10:04 AM (13 years, 1 month ago)

Also it looks like you're still misting their leaves, even under the HPS. I would advise that you stop that during flower especially if you live somewhere with high humidity as it can cause budrot.


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