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OfflineDungenessDank
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Iluminigger doing it again
    #482740 - 09/27/10 09:23 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: DungenessDank]
    #482747 - 09/27/10 10:07 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

1st off, that article is terrible, I'll be pissed if that happens.

2nd, your picture is the stupidest fucking thing ever. I mean, a Halliburton sticker on his arm? Halliburton was run by Cheney... if whoever made that is seriously pissed at Halliburton they need to know that Obama has nothing to do with it. Federal Reserve, FEMA, Monsanto? seriously? wtf!


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #482783 - 09/27/10 01:34 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
1st off, that article is terrible, I'll be pissed if that happens.

2nd, your picture is the stupidest fucking thing ever. I mean, a Halliburton sticker on his arm? Halliburton was run by Cheney... if whoever made that is seriously pissed at Halliburton they need to know that Obama has nothing to do with it. Federal Reserve, FEMA, Monsanto? seriously? wtf!




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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #482807 - 09/27/10 03:13 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
1st off, that article is terrible, I'll be pissed if that happens.

2nd, your picture is the stupidest fucking thing ever. I mean, a Halliburton sticker on his arm? Halliburton was run by Cheney... if whoever made that is seriously pissed at Halliburton they need to know that Obama has nothing to do with it. Federal Reserve, FEMA, Monsanto? seriously? wtf!





in this instance i think obama is a figurehead for the government.  We all know how connected those corporations are to the government, not obama.  Obama is just a puppet.


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #482813 - 09/27/10 03:25 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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FurrowedBrow said:
Obama is just a puppet.




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Offlinekyuzo
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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #482814 - 09/27/10 03:26 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

While I agree that any major politician is likely to be beholden to special interests, I think it's silly to assume those special interests all have the same agenda.


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: kyuzo]
    #482815 - 09/27/10 03:27 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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I think it's silly to assume those special interests all have the same agenda.




How so?


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: King Koopa]
    #482817 - 09/27/10 03:30 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

it's everyone's interest, making money for me and my friends.


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: King Koopa]
    #482825 - 09/27/10 03:57 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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King Koopa said:
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kyuzo said:
I think it's silly to assume those special interests all have the same agenda.




How so?





Well the recent health care debate was a perfect example:  many industries that focused on manufacturing supported health care reform, because it would likely lesson the funds wasted on insuring their employees and make them more competitive with high end manufacturers in places like Japan and Germany.  While the health care industry was naturally opposed to it, because any reform would likely hurt their bottom line

from Nam: <<<Ninety-seven percent of NAM members provide health care benefits to their employees. Since 1999, employer-sponsored health care premiums have increased by nearly 120 percent. These rising health care costs are unsustainable. They are threatening the ability of manufacturers to create jobs and compete in the global economy.

The NAM and its members are extensively involved in promoting health reform that reduces out-of-control costs and improves patients’ access to care. Manufacturers believe it is critical to preserve what’s working in our current system while addressing the inefficiencies and problems that cost billions of dollars a year. >>>
http://www.nam.org/Issues/Health-Care/Health-Care-Reform.aspx

does Nam support reform because they give a shit about some workers?  Fuck no, they're concerned about their bottom line, which the medical industry is happy to dig into


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: kyuzo]
    #483023 - 09/28/10 10:21 AM (6 years, 2 months ago)

How is that not the same agenda?

It's all about $$$ C.R.E.A.M


Also Harry: His administration gave a no-bid 600 million dollar contract to a Halliburton subsidiary for military support through 2011.


Edited by DungenessDank (09/28/10 10:35 AM)


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: DungenessDank]
    #483069 - 09/28/10 02:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

because the agenda of one totally undermines and contradicts the agenda of the other?


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: DungenessDank]
    #483079 - 09/28/10 02:52 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

If you'll note, that's actually just an extension of a pre-existing contract from 2003 when we first invaded


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #483109 - 09/28/10 03:53 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Does it make it anymore right ethically?


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: DungenessDank]
    #483140 - 09/28/10 06:13 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

My friend, who's career military, once put it this way: how many companies do you think  can perform the job Halliburton is doing in Iraq and Afghanistan? Now while this guy is pretty critical of their performance there, and the general level of fraud going on, it's still a solid point: it takes some serious resources, so they simply lack competition

Another thing is, while I generally don't agree with privatizing aspects of our military, there is some serious cash to be saved by hiring some sinhalese to wash towels and flip burgers, as opposed to using a highly trained soldier (which costs us about 400 grand per deployment) who could be doing something much more demanding and tailored to his skills


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: kyuzo]
    #483211 - 09/28/10 09:29 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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kyuzo said:
Another thing is, while I generally don't agree with privatizing aspects of our military, there is some serious cash to be saved by hiring some sinhalese to wash towels and flip burgers, as opposed to using a highly trained soldier (which costs us about 400 grand per deployment) who could be doing something much more demanding and tailored to his skills




And then there's my friend whose going to be doing the same mechanic work on the same Blackhawks for way, way more money now that he's working for a private contractor. :lol:


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: DungenessDank]
    #483214 - 09/28/10 09:31 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Hay guise u want me 2 suicide bomb him?


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: ltd]
    #483218 - 09/28/10 09:33 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

:huxleyfacepalm:


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: NizzyJones]
    #483219 - 09/28/10 09:35 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

Wat the face for u not liek my ideas


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: NizzyJones]
    #483226 - 09/28/10 09:42 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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kyuzo said:
Another thing is, while I generally don't agree with privatizing aspects of our military, there is some serious cash to be saved by hiring some sinhalese to wash towels and flip burgers, as opposed to using a highly trained soldier (which costs us about 400 grand per deployment) who could be doing something much more demanding and tailored to his skills




And then there's my friend whose going to be doing the same mechanic work on the same Blackhawks for way, way more money now that he's working for a private contractor. :lol:





That doesn't mean the government is actually paying more for employing him via a third party. After all, how much of that 400k, per deployment, actually makes it into the soldiers pocket?


PS there is a pretty bad brain drain going on in the military, as well, due to the private contractors.  The bad thing is that you, as a tax payer, payed for all that specialized training the private contractor is taking advantage of


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Re: Iluminigger doing it again [Re: ltd]
    #483227 - 09/28/10 09:44 PM (6 years, 2 months ago)

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