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Awesome!
    #401724 - 04/15/10 10:10 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Fuckin illegal immigrants piss me off.

Arizona gets +1 for this IMO


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Re: Awesome! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #401749 - 04/15/10 10:39 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

"It appears to mandate racial profiling."

Hi! Thebooedocksaint. do you agree with that^?


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Re: Awesome! [Re: iDl]
    #401766 - 04/15/10 11:41 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

If you are Mexican then you can geeeeet ouuuuuuuuuut. Or nurse my nurseries on the cheap.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: Tangerines]
    #401769 - 04/15/10 11:43 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

My best friend is an illegal mexican. He's got fake id's and a social security number and everything  :lol:


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Re: Awesome! [Re: elcharrosays]
    #401772 - 04/15/10 11:46 AM (6 years, 7 months ago)

That's funny. I am sure there are a good number here once they get their fake creds.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: elcharrosays]
    #401780 - 04/15/10 12:04 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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iDl said:
"It appears to mandate racial profiling."

Hi! Thebooedocksaint. do you agree with that^?




I don't agree with profiling.

But I agree with the end it seeks.

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My best friend is an illegal mexican. He's got fake id's and a social security number and everything  :lol:




If my best friend was an illegal, I'd murder him.

:awebig:

Or just call immigration on his ass. Most likely the second.




On a side note, I just want a law to come out that makes it so people wont investigate the murders of people that were here illegally. That would be AAAAAWWWWESOME XD

Because if they aren't here legally, they deserve none of our legal protection.


That's my 2 cents.

Until then I will continue including incinerated illegals in my fertilizer.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #401831 - 04/15/10 12:50 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Naw dawg see now you just sound like a piece of shit.

His parents are legal and they went through all of the legal processes for their children but then 9/11 happened and everything has been stalled since.

Laws and border's aside, a human being has the right to do whatever it takes to lead the best life possible. Legally, you shouldn't be smoking pot. Do you give a fuck? Fuck the law.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: elcharrosays]
    #401833 - 04/15/10 12:51 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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Laws and border's aside, a human being has the right to do whatever it takes to lead the best life possible. Legally, you shouldn't be smoking pot. Do you give a fuck? Fuck the law.




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Re: Awesome! [Re: elcharrosays]
    #401835 - 04/15/10 12:52 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

Fuck the law indeed



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Re: Awesome! [Re: elcharrosays]
    #401859 - 04/15/10 01:06 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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His parents are legal and they went through all of the legal processes for their children but then 9/11 happened and everything has been stalled since.

Laws and border's aside, a human being has the right to do whatever it takes to lead the best life possible. Legally, you shouldn't be smoking pot. Do you give a fuck? Fuck the law.




Now you're saying "Unjust laws exist; therefore no laws should be followed."

A nation has a right to decide who is, and who isn't allowed within its borders. No I don't give a fuck about whether or not smoking pot is illegal, because it being illegal is unjust. However a country is fully justified to make certain things necessary to live here legally.

And if his parents are legal why isn't he legal?

I honestly don't give a fuck, if he is not in America legally than he should not be here. The end.


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Naw dawg see now you just sound like a piece of shit.




Naw dawg now that seems like a personal attack outside of the Dome.

If we are going to have a discussion, I would prefer it be civil.

You say something constructive and I will respond.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #401864 - 04/15/10 01:09 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I mean i guess your all entitled to your opinions, no matter how ignorant some of you may be


I wish I could drop all of you in mexico with no ID on a 10 strip of strong acid  :feelsgoodman:


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Re: Awesome! [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #401871 - 04/15/10 01:17 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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I mean i guess your all entitled to your opinions, no matter how ignorant some of you may be




:andyistic:

Because I am the one being ignorant.

Also, more on topic: what are we ignorant about?

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I wish I could drop all of you in mexico with no ID on a 10 strip of strong acid




How is that even relevant? I have a feeling very few Illegals are just dropped in America with no ID on Acid.

And if I was in mexico with no ID I'd just let them deport me to america.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: elcharrosays]
    #401874 - 04/15/10 01:18 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

I wasn't calling you a piece of shit, I was saying you were giving the appearance of being one. One is an accusation and one is an ambivalent opinion.

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If my best friend was an illegal, I'd murder him.




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Until then I will continue including incinerated illegals in my fertilizer.




Civility, eh?


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And if his parents are legal why isn't he legal?



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but then 9/11 happened and everything has been stalled since.





He's lived here since he was 4, graduated high school, works and pays taxes and deserves to be here every bit as much as you or I.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #401875 - 04/15/10 01:18 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

So what's your beef with the illegals here in america?  Creating a law that allows people to murder without justice isn't going to happen.  Unless its the government that's doing the killings.  Sounds like you need a psychedelic trip my friend.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #401876 - 04/15/10 01:20 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

You know we used to have a creed that went like, give us your poor and your hungry, or something like that.  But now the process is just too much.  That's why mexican's dont bother.  You want to be on a waiting list for 3 years and then maybe get citizenship status?  :lol:  no one does.  i think that's the problem.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #401878 - 04/15/10 01:22 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

The Native Americans and the lizard people should build an underground army and kick all of us white illegal immigrants out of their home lands.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #401883 - 04/15/10 01:29 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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I wasn't calling you a piece of shit, I was saying you were giving the appearance of being one. One is an accusation and one is an ambivalent opinion.

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If my best friend was an illegal, I'd murder him.




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Until then I will continue including incinerated illegals in my fertilizer.




Civility, eh?


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And if his parents are legal why isn't he legal?



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but then 9/11 happened and everything has been stalled since.





He's lived here since he was 4, graduated high school, works and pays taxes and deserves to be here every bit as much as you or I.




I meant starting from then, I was meaning don't do it again (because I was stopping since I felt there was discussion to be had). I very much don't like people here illegally a lot. If they couldn't get the paperwork done, then they shouldn't be here.

Well, just to be clear. The is a new bill being proposed that would help him become a citizen since he came over before the age of 6.


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So what's your beef with the illegals here in america?




Because if they aren't here legally.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #401887 - 04/15/10 01:35 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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The Native Americans and the lizard people should build an underground army and kick all of us white illegal immigrants out of their home lands.



Yea, I should kick you out of my home land. (but I'm not serious, I don't give a shit who is here.)

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You know we used to have a creed that went like, give us your poor and your hungry, or something like that.  But now the process is just too much.  That's why mexican's dont bother.  You want to be on a waiting list for 3 years and then maybe get citizenship status?  :lol:  no one does.  i think that's the problem.




And that is also 100% true, that really really is the problem. I would prefer it to be more streamlined. But I also very much believe in the necessity to be able to decide who gets to live here and who does not. There is only a finite number of jobs available in America, and having people that aren't here legally employed decreases the number available to legal citizens.

And you can say that they do jobs others don't want to do, but I will respond that anyone with a large enough need for money will seek out money.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: Thebooedocksaint]
    #401901 - 04/15/10 01:51 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

You just said your beef is with them breaking the law?  This sounds like racism masked by a legal issue.  I was expecting you to say that the illegals take our low wage jobs, extra costs to the tax payer from frequent ER visits since they dont have insurance, etc.


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Re: Awesome! [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #401909 - 04/15/10 01:59 PM (6 years, 7 months ago)

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You just said your beef is with them breaking the law?  This sounds like racism masked by a legal issue.  I was expecting you to say that the illegals take our low wage jobs, extra costs to the tax payer from frequent ER visits since they dont have insurance, etc.




I don't care what color skin they are, they can be white for all I care. I'm pretty anti-racist actually.

I did also say earlier "There is only a finite number of jobs available in America, and having people that aren't here legally employed decreases the number available to legal citizens."

But the reasons you stated are reasons that I support it remaining illegal.

Plus Elcharro is the only one who has even mentioned a specific race. I don't even care their country of origin, I just don't want people that haven't completed everything required for citizenship to be here.

-----Edit----

I also want to mention it wouldn't even matter if there are finite jobs either, or any other reasons.

I just very much respect a sovereign countries right to decide who is and who is not legal to reside within its borders. Because that countries opinions and rules regarding people are based on those that reside within the country.


Also, I have to go to class.


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