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 TomCollins
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 Re: Autoflower ak47 short rider and lowryder???  [Re: Grower420]
#393669 - 04/01/10 09:49 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Hate to tell you this but fem seeds are kind of a scam. Your chances of getting hermies are pretty high and you could just end up with straight males anyway.  I fell for the same trap. Live and learn.
This member grew something very similar, however it was indoors:
https://www.growery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/316727/fpart/1/vc/1
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andyistic said:
Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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TomCollins
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Re: Autoflower ak47 short rider and lowryder??? [Re: Union420]
#395646 - 04/04/10 02:54 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Union420 said:
Sorry but this is false. If a breeder makes female seeds using the 'right' techniques you WILL get %100 females with no hermie tendencies. Growers like Soma use stress techniques that later compromise the product because it encourages hermies.
The right way to do it is to take a number of plants from a selected strain you plan to create fem seeds with and test this crop first to eliminate plants that herm easily. You then take the females that wouldnt herm and spray these using STS or GA, they will then be forced to herm and the resulting seed will produce fem seeds with no herm tendencies, if you do get a herm its grower error.
This is merely an opinion and not based on fact. Sure, in theory if the seeds are produced correctly and your growing conditions are optimal then there is very little reason to assume you'll have anything but female plants. This is the same when you use normal seeds as well.
According to this article: http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/394
Female plants, grown from feminized seeds are more prone to become hermie through stress than female plants grown from normal seeds.
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However, silver linings often have a cloud attached and it was true in this case. The female plants that developed from hermaphroditic seeds had the drawback of being far more likely than ordinary plants to develop male branches – turn “Herman” – when stressed. More than once, a power, pump or light failure caused enough stress to the plants that they easily went hermaphroditic. Outdoors we had even more trouble; in bad-weather years we could end up with a plant from a feminized seed developing male flowers and blowing pollen all over the other plants, ruining our dreams of a sinsemilla crop. We decided that feminized plants might have a place in our business’ industry, but it wouldn’t be in our gardens.
Your absolutely right that, if everything GOES RIGHT, then there is nothing at all to worry about really. The problem is the plants are volatile. As you can see in the article, any possible "accidental" mistake can potentially ruin your entire crop.
Also bear in mind that feminized seeds can become male anyway.
My point is feminized seeds are not reliable and are over priced. That's just my 2 cents.
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andyistic said:
Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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TomCollins
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Re: Autoflower ak47 short rider and lowryder??? [Re: Union420]
#397626 - 04/07/10 12:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Union420 said:
I see what you guys are saying but like you said, if conditions are right everything will go fine. Reg seeds can go hermie under stressfull conditions too, so I would put fem seeds done right in the same category as reg seeds as far as probability to herm goes.
Again, this is nothing but your opinion. Not fact.
Also, I would have to disagree with you in that plants grown from regular seeds hermie just as easily as feminized seeds if exposed to stress. According to the article, the result of their experiment was that feminized seeds have a higher tendency to hermie under stress than plants grown from regular seeds.
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Union420 said:They are priced high lol, I agree with that but 'some' places price them fairly like Greenhouse. Id say the problem with fem seeds is finding a place that does them right at a rite price, well GHS is one of only a few which dosent leave much choice for growers.
It doesn't matter. The pricing is unjustified for what they do. Simply put, the only benefit to feminized seeds is that in theory, a female plant can be guaranteed if it is grown in optimal conditions.
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Union420 said:Dont get me wrong reg seeds are always gonna be the go to in the long run but fem seeds do have benefits more so than say autoflower strains. For instance, from a company that sells single seeds one can purchase several different strains for the price of a 10 pack of one strain and being that there female and you get them all to germ you now have many strains to work with rather than just one. For someone like me who has a hard time deciding what strain to get its great because I have the ability to get say ten different strains at once. Most people buy a strain or two at a time for the price I pay for ten, I get bored easily and aside from that I dont like to continuously order and all that mess so in a predicament like mine it works out, but again Im not downing reg seeds but fem seeds are far from a rip off is all im saying kno what I mean.
Any seeds have more benefits than an auto flower in that case. Also, as I have said before and I can guarantee this from experience, just because you use a feminized seed does not guarantee you a female. Sorry. It does not.
The chances are really high if the conditions are good, but unfortunately the price is unjustified for this fact.
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andyistic said:
Ok so let me bring you idiots up to speed.
The admins are tired of this shitfest being made the joke of the weed community on the Internet.
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TomCollins
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Re: Autoflower ak47 short rider and lowryder??? [Re: Grower420]
#397830 - 04/07/10 06:15 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grower420 said:
look at you guys argueing about female seeds LMAO..
Wow, in that case I'm out. I was arguing to save you some bucks man but I guess that doesn't matter very much.
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Grower420 said:i dunno about all that i just know that the lowryder is hermie free! its a deviant! soo there is your proof that fem seeds can be made to be made only into females! read the decriptioon on atitude if you dont believe me its lowryder 1 or 2
 Holy crap....
A trusted cultivator and moderator agreed with me. Nuff said.
Go ahead and buy your seeds.
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TomCollins
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Re: Autoflower ak47 short rider and lowryder??? [Re: Grower420]
#397847 - 04/07/10 06:34 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Grower420 said:
no its just i already bought my fem seedsi usually but reg i just bought some auto female seeds
English or German please.
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