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Thinking about growing autoflowering strain.
    #341390 - 01/06/10 12:06 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

For my first grow under an HPS. A few questions cuz I want to do this right after all.

1.)Do autoflowering strains do well in soil? (I was thinking foxfarm products)
2.) How big of a pot do you need for an autoflowering strain?
3.) From start to finish on average how long do autofloweing strains take to grow?
4.) How tall does an autoflowering strain get (on average).
5.) Are they easier to grow than a normal strain?
6.) Any good breeders that you know of?

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341403 - 01/06/10 12:40 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

1. yes fox farm and ff nutes work magic.
2. I have had mine in 3 1/2 gallon buckets but they didnt even use it all.
3.85-100 days closer to 90 usually.
4.I had only one go over 2ft mostly 20-22ins.
5.I threw the seeds in cubes than transplanted, they were outside so nature did the rest but give nutes.
6.I grew lowryder 2 and lowryder X ak-47 with great results.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341404 - 01/06/10 12:41 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

That or I was thinking growing 1 or 2 normal size plants and choping them or tying them down....which would be a better option?

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341406 - 01/06/10 12:49 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

A buddy of mine was growing lowryder #2 outdoors a year or two ago and he had them in 5 gal pots and the roots were all the way to the edges, probably dosent need that much though  :shrug:

Im planning on trying some of them outdoors next spring since they stay so short :happyweed:


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341407 - 01/06/10 12:49 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I love LST methods like ScrOG and tying down. If you put one plant in a 5 gallon bucket with a 3x3ft screen ontop with the right strain you could pull a pound. If your doing 2 plants you should think about growing hydro like a deep water culture or a ebb n flo system, both easy and good for new hydro growers. If your looking for time period than go auto but if your looking for starting a mother and growing the best weed you have ever smoked for an indefinite amount of time go with 1 or 2 plants. What wattage is your HPS and whats your grow area look like.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341409 - 01/06/10 12:51 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Id assume its hard to ScrOG an autoflowering plant seeing as there is just one main stem and not really any branches (usually)


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #341410 - 01/06/10 12:52 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Its impossible pretty much to ScrOG a auto strain, I was trying to push trip towards the jedi side(non-auto).


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341411 - 01/06/10 12:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

oh yeah

non auto FTW but if he is looking for speed, there are some strains ive seen that claim to be done 70 days from germination


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341412 - 01/06/10 12:54 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Right now I'm thinking just a plant or two, not as a mother or anything. I think I'm going to do a soil grow. My wattage would be a 400 watt HPS bulb. Not sure what my grow area will look like right now. Although it would be nice to get a lb. off a plant I dont really need that much. I just need to learn how to do things the right way. I would do a hydroponics grow but its to expensive for me. I think I'm just gonna get some good soil and nutes and make my one or two plants really happy. I'm thinking about growing some GDP or something that will chill me out cuz I have anxiety pretty bad.

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: NobodyImportant]
    #341413 - 01/06/10 12:55 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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oh yeah

non auto FTW but if he is looking for speed, there are some strains ive seen that claim to be done 70 days from germination



Time would be an issue possibly where I am at now, but if I move to where I want soon then I dont have to worry about time or landlords.

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341416 - 01/06/10 01:24 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

If you have to worry about landlords than dont grow PERIOD. Ok first off I am hydro biast because thats one of the classes I teach,:naughty:. Hydro is cheap as fuck, go to home depot, get 2 buckets 2-3 gallons is perfect for this,some verm and perlite maybe even hydroton(I do), and a drill if you dont have one. Go here http://www.petco.com/product/109838/PETCO-Air-Pump.aspx?CoreCat=LN_Shopping_FishSupplies_AirPumpsandAccessories and get the strongest one. Drill shit ton of holes in the bottom of one bucket like the size of lincolns head on the penny. hook up the 4 pump outputs,4 airstones, and tubes and place the 4 airstones around the center of the bucket and fill with media mixture. place this bucket inside a non-hole drilled one, add enough water so that the inner bucket has water like 4 inches above the bottom. Single stage nutes are cheap. Your total 35 bucks and that thing will grow you a huge plant. get clones from a buddy or fem seeds online. fuck auto, learn on real plants first.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341419 - 01/06/10 01:29 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

BTW, I will post a Tek on that if wanted. I will make it a project for my under-grads. Muhahahaha


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341423 - 01/06/10 01:55 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yes do a tek, I'm going to bed. Peace.

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341424 - 01/06/10 01:56 AM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341606 - 01/06/10 02:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)


This is what I want my plant to look like, Magash I stole it from your gallery.

Help me get to this point.

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: TheShroomJew23]
    #341625 - 01/06/10 03:50 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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TEK PLEASE lol.

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341641 - 01/06/10 04:47 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Eh, if you're looking to save money fuck DWC.  Just go hempy, no need for pumps or airstones.  All you need is a bucket, some perlite (verm too if you want), and that's it.  Drill a hole two inches from the bottom of the bucket, fill the bucket with your substrate, and place your plant in.

Water the bucket until water dribbles from the hole and you're good to go.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #341642 - 01/06/10 04:49 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Shit can you draw me a diagram in paint? Is that what you are doing with your autoflowering strain? And how do you do nutes with that?

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341714 - 01/06/10 06:27 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

sure man, let me hit my volcano real quick, catch a buzz, and I'll diagram it up for you.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341715 - 01/06/10 06:29 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah thats what he's doing.

Putting holes a few inches above the bottom ensures that the roots don't dry up and always have something to feed on.

It's basically like a poor mans DWC but it works great.

I just love my soil though and would stick to that as it is more forgiving to mistakes.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #341716 - 01/06/10 06:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Sweet man thanks!

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #341748 - 01/06/10 07:03 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)



There's your diagram and here's a quick rundown on the system.

Original Hempy Substrate mixture:

3:1 ratio of perlite to verm.  I have 5 quart buckets so I ended up 3 quarts of perlite and 1 quart of verm.  Mixed that together dumped it in, and just used more perlite to fill in the remaining space.

Note: You can grow in straight perlite if you wish,  I'm noticing they want to be watered a little quicker then those with the verm in them though.  So if you go the straight perlite route it's possible to be a little more work in the end.

The bucket creates a reservoir at the bottom, the hole you drill in prevents you from over watering your plant.  I highly suggest using a steady container like a watering can and remember how much water it takes to cause it to dribble out.  That way you know how much to pour for each plant and can gauge how much water and nutes you'll need per feeding.

I have a little metal watering can that if i fill up almost all the way to the top, will not cause my plants to overflow if they're dry.  I get about three plants worth per gallon of water so to do 8 plants I need 3 gallons of mixture.  It leaves me with a little left over, but feedings come quick so I don't mind storing it.

As for nutes I can highly recommend the Flora Nova Series.  It's a little pricey at around 30 dollars or so per quart, but it's a one part system that gives your plants EVERYthing they need.  All vital macro and micro's are in there.  I'm using this line exclusively with no extra additives (save for maybe some molasses at the end) just to see how well it works by itself.  Lots of people use it, and I love it so far, so it's worth the extra cash IMO.

While the root systems are smaller, you may have to water a little bit daily to give the plant the food and hydration it needs.  But once the root system takes off you'll water about every 2-3 days.  If your plants get big enough, you may find yourself watering once a day.  But that's only towards the end of the grow cycle anyways.

Other then that the same rules still apply.  Start off with some light doses of food, find out how they react, then gradually up the doses as you progress.  It's dead simple honestly and so far has produced some fantastic results for me.  Can't beat the price either (minus nute costs). 

20$ 3 Cu. Ft bag of perlite
3$ Bag of verm
16$ 8 1 gal plastic buckets
2$ Bag of solo cups for babies

So 41 bucks to set up 8 plants.  The perlite will definitely last you, 3 cu ft is a lot.  I got 8 gallons in buckets and filled probably 20-25 solo cups worth too.  I also filled a seedling tray with some as well for clones.  I still have enough perlite to do another bucket or so.  Total cost is 100$ with the nutes in there, but I'll have enough to get me through at least one more flowering cycle before I'll have to order more.

That's hempy in a nutshell, no moving parts, hand watered, and dirt cheap.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #341756 - 01/06/10 07:11 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Dude thats fucking awesome, I'm going this route. Thank you for taking time to explain it to me. I'm only gonna do like one plant so it will be even cheaper. How big of pots do you use?

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341759 - 01/06/10 07:12 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Solo cups for 20-25 days, 1 gal buckets for flowering.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #341761 - 01/06/10 07:13 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

And for the solo cups do you used the same mixture? or do you use soil?

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    #341762 - 01/06/10 07:16 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

same mix, 16 oz cup gets 1.5 cups of perlite to .5 cups of verm.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #341763 - 01/06/10 07:17 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

And since there is no nutes in the solos do I have to add them?

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    #341807 - 01/06/10 07:45 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

yup.  If they're seedlings they can go at most a week without food.  When they're sprouts I'd feed them some Ph balanced water, soon as they start working on their second set of three bladed leaves i'd start hitting them with a light dose of nutes.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #341808 - 01/06/10 07:46 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Should I use the same nutes that you mentioned above or different?

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #341868 - 01/06/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Since you are only going to grow 1 plant you are going to need a bigger container.

He only has them in smaller containers because they are AF and don't get large at all.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Inverted]
    #341872 - 01/06/10 08:31 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah I'm going to get a 5 gal bucket like harry is using.

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #343612 - 01/08/10 08:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Flora Nova Series


So is this the only nutes I need then? For both flowering and vegging?

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Triptonic]
    #345028 - 01/10/10 03:01 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Yes.  I believe it is a 3 part system.

General Hydroponics also comes highly recommended.

Personally I use Neptune's Harvest - Organic Fish and Seaweed Nutrients

I have been using them for a solid 7 years.  It goes a LONG way and my plants show an obvious jump in growth every time I feed them with it.



I absolutely love the stuff.  It grew the worlds largest pumpkin!  :lol:


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Inverted]
    #345181 - 01/10/10 05:30 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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Yes.  I believe it is a 3 part system.




Flora nova is a one part system.  There's a veg line and a bloom line though, so you'll need to pick up both if you're starting from seed.


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #345184 - 01/10/10 05:32 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Alright, got a link to what I need coda?

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    #345189 - 01/10/10 05:35 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)



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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #345199 - 01/10/10 05:39 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

Thanks man.

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    #345344 - 01/10/10 07:02 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

You gotta look around some more too.  Don't just go get the first thing someone recommends.  Every grower has their own personal preferences.

I myself believe you don't have to spend that much on nutrients to get good results.  Walk before you run

I've heard more good reviews on GH than floranova... but I can't tell you anything because i've never used floranova


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: Inverted]
    #345355 - 01/10/10 07:07 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

I think I'm gonna trust Coda, since he is using Hempy Buckets like I am. If I dont use that I'm going to use General Hydroponics.

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    #345782 - 01/11/10 04:43 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

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I've heard more good reviews on GH than floranova... but I can't tell you anything because i've never used floranova




Flora nova is made by GH :wink:


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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: coda]
    #345914 - 01/11/10 07:58 PM (14 years, 1 month ago)

good to know

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Re: Thinking about growing autoflowering strain. [Re: feelfunny]
    #659700 - 02/20/13 08:44 AM (11 years, 13 days ago)

You need to look at the new SUPER autoflowering strains like "Big Bang" from Green House Seeds. They have Huge yield!!

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