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    #374201 - 02/26/10 05:20 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

maybe you could try grafting many different plants to one root stock.



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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374204 - 02/26/10 05:30 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

Would say it's easier or harder than cloning? it sounds like fun to me but also a good way to kill a couple different plants at once. :lol:


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374215 - 02/26/10 05:45 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

and also, why do all those people in Amsterdam grow their indoor plants so freakin' tall? they must love their hash over there or something :shrug:


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374216 - 02/26/10 05:47 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I don't think it's much harder than cloning. I wonder how this could be applied for outdoor growers... Maybe ShroomJew23 can tell us about his outdoor plantations using this method.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374231 - 02/26/10 06:18 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

lol. I think it would be very cool to flower a plant with 5 different strains on it, but the real advantage I see is in keeping mothers. you could have 15 different strains and still keep yourself under the plant limit. where I'm at we're only allowed 3 vegging plants per patient, so assuming you keep a mom for each strain that really limits the amount of cuttings you can take. Keeping all your genetics on a single plant could allow you to take more clones and keep the flowering room full. Very awesome idea, I might have to try this. Do you know of any better videos? they didn't really do a very good job of explaining in that video


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374238 - 02/26/10 06:26 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

So I was reading around trying to find some more info, and amongst all the idiots (one guy claimed that cannabis and hops are the only two plants in the world that are dicots :facepalm:)  someone successfully grafted a cannabis branch to a grapevine. :eek:

I have an enormous lilac bush in my backyard, and I think grafting a single branch of an early-finishing cannabis strain would be a perfect way to grow a little outdoors and disguise it from my neighbors. Do you think that would work? I think it would be worth it for me at least to test. worst that happens is I lose a cutting or two


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374240 - 02/26/10 06:29 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

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I have an enormous lilac bush in my backyard, and I think grafting a single branch of an early-finishing cannabis strain would be a perfect way to grow a little outdoors and disguise it from my neighbors.




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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374241 - 02/26/10 06:29 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I think it would be worth a try, that's for sure.  Don't you have way over 3 vegging plants now?  You're breaking an illegal law.  :lol:


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374247 - 02/26/10 06:31 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

no, I have my own license plus I'm legal caregiver for 4 patients. I'm still within my legal limits :wink:

I think the best would be to graft a branch to the top of a tree. then you could just water the tree to keep the plant happy and it would get full sunlight etc.

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374252 - 02/26/10 06:34 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

You're going to revolutionize Guerrilla Gardening, making it Ninja Gardening! :thumbup:


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: 13eetleJuice]
    #374254 - 02/26/10 06:35 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I hope so. it would be very cool if this works but I think I need to practice with some indoor cannabis-to-cannabis grafts before hand so I have some idea of the proccess. If anyone wants to help me with the research please post the links in here so I can read them!


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374260 - 02/26/10 06:40 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

Ninja Gardening, i love it!  Finding information is one thing i can help you with here.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374262 - 02/26/10 06:42 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

This is a short bit about grafting cannabis that came from R.C. Clarke's Marijuana Botany...

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Grafting

Intergeneric grafts between Cannabis and Humulus (hops) have fascinated researchers and cultivators for decades. Warmke and Davidson (1943) claimed that Humbles tops grafted upon Cannabis roots produced ". . . as much drug as leaves from intact hemp plants, even though leaves from intact hop plants are completely nontoxic." According to this research, the active ingredient of Cannabis was being produced in the roots and transported across the graft to the Humulus tops. Later research by Crombie and Crombie (1975) entirely disproves this theory. Grafts were made between high and low THC strains of Cannabis as well as intergeneric grafts between Cannabis and Humulus, Detailed chromatographic analysis was performed on both donors for each graft and their control populations. The results showed ". . . no evidence of transport of inter mediates or factors critical to cannabinoid formation across the grafts."

Grafting of Cannabis is very simple. Several seedlings can be grafted together into one to produce very interesting specimen plants. One procedure starts by planting one seed ling each of several separate strains close together in the same container, placing the stock (root plant) for the cross in the center of the rest. When the seedlings are four weeks old they are ready to be grafted. A diagonal cut is made approximately half-way through the stock stem and one of the scion (shoot) seedlings at the same level. The cut portions are slipped together such that the inner cut surfaces are touching. The joints are held with a fold of cellophane tape. A second scion from an adjacent seedling may be grafted to the stock higher up the stem. After two weeks, the unwanted portions of the grafts are cut away. Eight to twelve weeks are needed to complete the graft, and the plants are maintained in a mild environment at all times. As the graft takes, and the plant begins to grow, the tape falls off.




http://www.weedfarmer.com/cannabis/botany_guide.php


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374266 - 02/26/10 06:53 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

In searching for info I came across a bit of interesting information. Apparently there is a transfer of genetic materials between cells of grafted flowering plants.

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/7048005_Historical_and_modern_genetics_of_plant_graft_hybridization

http://www.springerlink.com/content/l833714442252h53/fulltext.pdf?page=1


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374270 - 02/26/10 06:57 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

The dutch are limited to five plants so I guess they veg them a bunch longer which may explain the height of their plants.

The video seemed detailed enough to tackle graphing. You want to make complimentary v cuts having the cutting being taken as the "male end" and the branch the cut is being put onto the "female end" the dude in the video says some rooting hormone will seal the wound quickly but he doesn't bother and he just applies a bandage of some sort.

For clarity the male end will be cut so stem is shaved off leaving a v and the female end will have a v cut out of it.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374274 - 02/26/10 07:01 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

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The dutch are limited to five plants so I guess they veg them a bunch longer which may explain the height of their plants.

The video seemed detailed enough to tackle graphing. You want to make complimentary v cuts having the cutting being taken as the "male end" and the branch the cut is being put onto the "female end" the dude in the video says some rooting hormone will seal the wound quickly but he doesn't bother and he just applies a bandage of some sort.

For clarity the male end will be cut so stem is shaved off leaving a v and the female end will have a v cut out of it.






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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374278 - 02/26/10 07:05 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

This is sick. I'm going to try this.

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Dephect]
    #374286 - 02/26/10 07:17 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Triptonic]
    #374316 - 02/26/10 07:45 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

Don't alot of rooting compounds work by breaking down the outer tissue of the stem?  I would think that would be a bad thing for a tender graft...

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: DudeTron]
    #374319 - 02/26/10 07:47 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I dont think you use rooting compounds though. Not sure on that one, but I dont think I heard him say it in the video.

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: DudeTron]
    #374320 - 02/26/10 07:50 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

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Don't alot of rooting compounds work by breaking down the outer tissue of the stem?  I would think that would be a bad thing for a tender graft...




I believe most cloning solutions are just artificial hormones that promote new growth. At 3:50 on he talks about applying clonex to seal the wound.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374352 - 02/26/10 08:31 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

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The dutch are limited to five plants so I guess they veg them a bunch longer which may explain the height of their plants.

The video seemed detailed enough to tackle graphing. You want to make complimentary v cuts having the cutting being taken as the "male end" and the branch the cut is being put onto the "female end" the dude in the video says some rooting hormone will seal the wound quickly but he doesn't bother and he just applies a bandage of some sort.

For clarity the male end will be cut so stem is shaved off leaving a v and the female end will have a v cut out of it.


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Yeah you're right, I guess it can't be too hard right? and he was saying that he basically used a plastic bag as a humidity dome and airs it out once a day? sounds simple enough.

What was his bandage of choice?

And you don't think a plant that flowers in springtime like lilac would cause any sort of hormonal issues with the cutting right?


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374362 - 02/26/10 08:42 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I'm inexperienced with cannabis grafts so I don't know about grafting to other species.

He recommends a clothes pin but seems to have used a twist tie. You could use anything that applies pressure around the stem though to keep the two plants in contact until the wound heals up.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374387 - 02/26/10 09:30 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

oh yeah I remember now. I don't have clothes pins but I think the twist tie would be a viable idea. I can't decide if rooting compound is the best option or not.... You're not technically trying to root the cutting, but you do want the vascular tissues to combine so I suppose I can see how that could be useful. an argument could be made that the root system is just an extension of the vascular cambium.

hmmm... This is a good one for my brain-hole


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374417 - 02/26/10 10:19 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

This is an awesome thread
Keeps us posted on your experiment Harry


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: MushrooMan420]
    #374421 - 02/26/10 10:28 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I certainly will :smile: it'll be awhile though. None of my clones are currently large enough to take cuttings from so it'll be a couple weeks before I attempt this


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374442 - 02/26/10 11:37 PM (14 years, 24 days ago)

I will be trying this too :smile:

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374476 - 02/27/10 03:14 AM (14 years, 24 days ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said: someone successfully grafted a cannabis branch to a grapevine. :eek:





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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374478 - 02/27/10 04:25 AM (14 years, 23 days ago)

This link has some interesting info including the following:

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Why Grafting
Dwarfing: To induce dwarfing or cold tolerance or other characteristics to the scion.

Ease of propagation: Because the scion is difficult to propagate vegetatively by other means, such as by cuttings. In this case, cuttings of an easily rooted plant are used to provide a rootstock. In some cases, the scion may be easily propagated, but grafting may still be used because it is commercially the most cost-effective way of raising a particular type of plant.

Hybrid breeding: To speed maturity of hybrids in fruit tree breeding programs. Hybrid seedlings may take ten or more years to flower and fruit on their own roots. Grafting can reduce the time to flowering and shorten the breeding program.

Hardiness: Because the scion has weak roots or the roots of the stock plants have roots tolerant of difficult conditions.




It might be interesting to test the grafting of a cutting onto a host plant which has already been introduced to flowering conditions. :shrug: Not sure if that would have any particular real world application but, I'm really baked and can't tell if it's a good idea or not. I can't seem to hold thoughts in my head long enough right now to remember each facet of the previously mentioned idea in order to scrutinize it for validity...  Whhhhooooooowwweeeeeeeeee!!!
It took me ten minutes to type this sentence. :grin: :vaped:

Actually, you should likely disregard my entire addendum because, frankly, I'm an idiot and if you've read this far you probably are too. There, I said it. I've gone and flamed would be readers; innocent browsers of the net whose only mistake is having stumbled upon the cesspool of run-on sentence upon pointless run-on sentence that is another failed post. :palmface:... :facepalm: :suicide:

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374553 - 02/27/10 11:29 AM (14 years, 23 days ago)

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Snurry said:
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Harry_Ba11sach said: someone successfully grafted a cannabis branch to a grapevine. :eek:





pics?




It's one of those sites where you have to register to view pics so I don't have any, but I can link you to the thread and you can read about it if you'd like.

Also, does anyone have any thoughts on this?

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And you don't think a plant that flowers in springtime like lilac would cause any sort of hormonal issues with the cutting right?




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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374776 - 02/27/10 06:06 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

maybe you should save the picture and post it here.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374781 - 02/27/10 06:14 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

yeah but I don't want to register for that site. I guess it would be worth it since I'm undertaking this project...


I've got a Schefflera plant that's very healthy right now... considering attempting my first cross-species graft with that in the next week or two. Any objections/thoughts as to why that might not be the best idea, or go for it?


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374787 - 02/27/10 06:34 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Go 4 it.

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374788 - 02/27/10 06:35 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Ok just for you C.Koons I made an account :wink:

The pics don't show anything without the bandage still attached but here ya go;

Right after the transplant


A couple weeks later, you can see that the grafting was successful because not only is the cutting still alive, but it's clearly adjusted to the sun and looks to be still alive and well a full 17 days after the grafting.


unfortunately nobody updated the thread after that :shrug:


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374790 - 02/27/10 06:38 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Go for it, you wont know till you try.

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Triptonic]
    #374794 - 02/27/10 06:43 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

I'm planning on going for it, but I'm also planning on discussing it here to pinpoint the best course of action.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374795 - 02/27/10 06:43 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

I'm going to email my old professor about interspecies grafting.

I'll get back to you.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374796 - 02/27/10 06:44 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

wonderful, I appreciate it.  Do you have any preliminary thoughts about the compatibility of a schefflera with a cannabis cutting?


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374837 - 02/27/10 07:52 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

I decided to call him instead.

He told me that out of Genus graftings rarely take from his personal experience. So your Lilac of genus Syringa wouldn't be a good idea for cannabis. There's of course exceptions so it's hard to say without trial and error.

He mentioned he noticed with some grafts he has done that it was a matter of attempting a graft many times and just waiting for it to take which I assume may or may not work in your situation.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374840 - 02/27/10 07:56 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

you called your old professor on a saturday night/evening?  You guys must be tight.  That's rad!


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #374843 - 02/27/10 08:00 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

we're mad tight.

I visited with him frequently for his office hours for the last 2 years, took all of the courses he offers, and I've even slept in his office when it was larger and he had a couch. He's basically been a great friend to me other than not lending me his books.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374850 - 02/27/10 08:05 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

hmmm well that's extremely unfortunate. Seeing as how Cannabis sativa is (obviously) in the genus Cannabis that greatly lowers my options for grafts.

I suppose my smartest option would be to attempt an interfamily graft, cannabaceae is somewhat larger and includes some species that don't look as much like traditional marijuana


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374854 - 02/27/10 08:09 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Graft it to yourself.

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    #374858 - 02/27/10 08:14 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

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Graft it to yourself.




Triptonic, for someone who complains a lot because of off topic posts in their threads you sure do make a lot of useless posts.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374861 - 02/27/10 08:17 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

When did I complain about off topic posts? Please tell me.

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Triptonic]
    #374867 - 02/27/10 08:23 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

dude all the time you do. your moderator poll for example. your apology thread for another example.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374869 - 02/27/10 08:25 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

thanks, I didn't want to search his posts for exceptional examples of bitchiness.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374870 - 02/27/10 08:28 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

So I didn't want to graft to hops because I know that's been done before. I'm going to have to spend some time searching around on phylogenetic trees for closely related houseplants that might be useful for grafting. Trema Occidentalis is of the Family cannabaceae and, from pictures I've found on google, appears to be a plant I've seen for sale as a houseplant at retail stores near me. I may have to go pick one up and attempt that before venturing further outside the genus.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374872 - 02/27/10 08:31 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

:rolleyes: you people are rediculous. And its not like it mattered even if I did complain, cuz no one listens anyways. Plus that wasnt really off topic I was still talking about grafting.  :suicide:

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374874 - 02/27/10 08:37 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

I wasn't complaining about your post, I was merely providing an example like you asked. Regardless, you can't seriously think that suggesting I graft the cutting to myself contributes to this conversation in any appreciable manner.

With that said, I'm enjoying the actual discussion at hand, so I'm going to quote myself in the hopes that I may get some legitimate responses from somebody

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So I didn't want to graft to hops because I know that's been done before. I'm going to have to spend some time searching around on phylogenetic trees for closely related houseplants that might be useful for grafting. Trema Occidentalis is of the Family cannabaceae and, from pictures I've found on google, appears to be a plant I've seen for sale as a houseplant at retail stores near me. I may have to go pick one up and attempt that before venturing further outside the genus.




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    #374877 - 02/27/10 08:40 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Why not just try to graft two of your strains together? why do you want to do it on a bush or plant so bad? Just for concealment reasons?

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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Triptonic]
    #374878 - 02/27/10 08:42 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

yes, so I can grow outside without it being obvious. A flower of Purple Erkle on a lilac is more stealth than anything else I can think of. This would allow people to cultivate a single branch in their own backyard without the neighbors noticing, and still yield an ounce or two of outdoor bud per summer.

of course I'm planning on also grafting a single mom to hold 4-5 different strains, but that's not nearly as cool or important


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Triptonic]
    #374879 - 02/27/10 08:42 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

He's posted why already.

He said he had a lilac bush in his backyard and said it would be very stealthy to just water the lilac bush and have the cannabis plant camouflaged.


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374883 - 02/27/10 08:44 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Yep. I feel like it would be very hard for a nosey neighbor to tell that this was growing in my lilac bush without them actually being in my yard


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374890 - 02/27/10 08:54 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

so pissy tonight koons.

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    #374892 - 02/27/10 08:59 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

good lord it's so freakin' hard to track down a reliable phylogeny of Cannabaceae! I can't seem to find a phylogenetic tree anywhere, or even an inclusive list of other genus's that might be included. over 150 species in the family but nobody has bothered to write them down.


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    #374913 - 02/27/10 09:24 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

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good lord it's so freakin' hard to track down a reliable phylogeny of Cannabaceae! I can't seem to find a phylogenetic tree anywhere, or even an inclusive list of other genus's that might be included. over 150 species in the family but nobody has bothered to write them down.




I'll take a look too as this interests me.

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so pissy tonight koons.




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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #374915 - 02/27/10 09:26 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

well I've found out that genus celtis is included in family cannabaceae. I'm not sure right now because all my deciduous trees are leaf-less for the next couple months, but I believe I may have a member of that genus growing in my yard!


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #374921 - 02/27/10 09:44 PM (14 years, 23 days ago)

I wish you luck. Start compiling a list :o


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Re: want to keep moms but are limited to the amount of plants you can keep? [Re: captain.koons]
    #375000 - 02/28/10 02:39 AM (14 years, 23 days ago)

Im going to try and graft it on to some tomatos.

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    #378220 - 03/03/10 11:24 PM (14 years, 19 days ago)

posting so I can come back to it one day

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