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Most annoying weed to manicure
    #337491 - 12/28/09 03:04 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Look at all the fuckin branches and leaves! This weed branches at EVERY node, which makes for a beautiful overall bush, but goddamm is it going to take awhile to trim up :frown:

Any suggestions on attacking this bitch?



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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #337493 - 12/28/09 03:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Just give up and send it to me. :awesome:


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: 81renaissance]
    #337494 - 12/28/09 03:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

are you coming up here with bubblebags?!? :crankey:

we're gonna make hash by the ounces :vaped:


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #337495 - 12/28/09 03:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i'll bring bubblebags for some hash where you at brah

/orders bubblebags online

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: usg543]
    #337503 - 12/28/09 03:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #337509 - 12/28/09 03:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Look at all the fuckin branches and leaves! This weed branches at EVERY node, which makes for a beautiful overall bush, but goddamm is it going to take awhile to trim up :frown:

Any suggestions on attacking this bitch?





I'll trim it for half. Or less.

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Triptonic]
    #337526 - 12/28/09 04:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Way I look at is those smaller buds on the branches won't amount to much but good hash material anyways.  Just chop the branches off and toss the buds in the hash pile to dry, then manicure the colas.  Of course if you have any side branches which you feel will leave a nice dry bud, keep them.  But if they're going to be tiny, airy, popcorn buds why bother trimming them.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #337541 - 12/28/09 05:07 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Way I look at is those smaller buds on the branches won't amount to much but good hash material anyways.  Just chop the branches off and toss the buds in the hash pile to dry, then manicure the colas.  Of course if you have any side branches which you feel will leave a nice dry bud, keep them.  But if they're going to be tiny, airy, popcorn buds why bother trimming them.




this is how i would do i, and how i did do it a few months ago. now i've got like 3 or so pounds of trim (3/4 of a large rubbermaid container) that needs to be ground up and made into something good.

someone give me a good hash recipe.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337544 - 12/28/09 05:12 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Really what I would do is send me as much bud as you can and then I will smoke it. Its a win lose situation. But what isnt now a days :shrug:

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Triptonic]
    #337556 - 12/28/09 05:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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someone give me a good hash recipe




1.) Buy bubble bags
2.) Freeze trim
3.) Make bubble hash using trim

Bubble hash would be the way I'd go if you want to process a large amount of trim at once.  You could hand sieve it, but, that involves a ton of work.  You could solvent extract it, but, that can be kinda pricey/lot of work/dangerous.  Invest in a 5 gallon set of bubble bags, find a local med patient who has a set you can borrow, or bring your trim to someone who has bags and process it there.  You'd honestly be best off investing in the set, over time they will pay for themselves :wink:


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #337558 - 12/28/09 05:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

only one problem ... i have no money to invest in said bubble bags, although i have thought about it in the past. i don't mind doing some extra work though, do you know of a good method for hand sieving?

or does someone have a set of bags i can borrow and ship back? it's really not imperative that i do this now, although i am thinking i should grind it all up sometime soon and possibly make some butter and brownies for my mother with some of it. but hash would be nice for me.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337575 - 12/28/09 06:22 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Join Harry's cause, I believe he's looking for a set as well.

In all honesty you could probably make bags yourself for a hell of a lot cheaper.  If anything, all you really need is a piece of silk screen and a a smooth surface to collect the resin heads from.

You'd want to buy a screen in the 70-90 micron range, you'll get the most quality hash with a screen this size.  If you want to hand sieve you'll probably want to stretch the silk screen over a small wood frame so it's nice and taut (think bouncing a quarter off of it).  Spare wood for the frame, or if you have one to spare, a nice sized sturdy picture frame can be modified.  Then place the screen over your collection surface and put some trim on the screen.  Rub the trim into the screen using firm but somewhat gentle pressure (you don't want to mash the plant matter into the screen, nor do you want to rip it).  I wouldn't spend too long with each pile, maybe a minute or two.  Don't throw away the screened trim either.  You could always use it in cooking, or if you have some more time and cash later on, put it through either a solvent or bubble bag run.

You'll start to see the resin heads dropping fairly quickly if you're using high quality trim.  Once you feel like you've collected it enough you can scrape up the resin, funnel it into a small cellophane bag (plastic bottom on cig packs), then with some heat and pressure you can form the loose resin into a nice slab of hash to smoke.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337576 - 12/28/09 06:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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only one problem ... i have no money to invest in said bubble bags, although i have thought about it in the past. i don't mind doing some extra work though, do you know of a good method for hand sieving?

or does someone have a set of bags i can borrow and ship back? it's really not imperative that i do this now, although i am thinking i should grind it all up sometime soon and possibly make some butter and brownies for my mother with some of it. but hash would be nice for me.





just sell an ounce then buy bubble bags with that :happyweed:

hell I think they even have a set of the smaller bags for like $90


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #337579 - 12/28/09 06:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

hrm, making my own bags seems easier and i'm already pretty crafty so i could probably do it without any major problems. or i could just save up some money and buy a set of bags. like i said, it doesn't NEED to be done any time relatively soon, but it would be nice.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337584 - 12/28/09 06:33 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

All you need is some sturdy canvas, some silk screen of varying micron size, and some decent stitching skills.  That's all bubble bags are, just silk screen and canvas, just make each bag a little larger then the last and go down in micron size as you move up in bag size. 

If the people at the art supply store is don't know what a micron is, just ask for mesh size instead (tighter mesh = smaller micron).


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #337585 - 12/28/09 06:34 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yeah, i could totally do this. if i do manage it, then i will have to lend them to harry. :smirk:


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337587 - 12/28/09 06:37 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yea and make a tek, we love those!


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: ChillWillis]
    #337589 - 12/28/09 06:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i will be putting all my effort into making the thing and probably be way too lazy to make a tek. that is a neat idea though.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337590 - 12/28/09 06:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

MAKE A TEK MISSY!

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Triptonic]
    #337592 - 12/28/09 06:42 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

if you guys are lucky, maybe.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337595 - 12/28/09 06:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I didn't see a gift under my tree from Acidic_Sloth, so......


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: ChillWillis]
    #337597 - 12/28/09 06:49 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

you didn't ask, otherwise there might have been.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337598 - 12/28/09 06:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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if you guys are lucky, maybe.



I dont need luck I have a gun :lol:

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #337601 - 12/28/09 06:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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you didn't ask, otherwise there might have been.



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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Triptonic]
    #337607 - 12/28/09 07:01 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

:rofl:


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: ChillWillis]
    #337611 - 12/28/09 07:08 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

TEK IT UP PLZZZZ!

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #337717 - 12/28/09 10:45 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Look at all the fuckin branches and leaves! This weed branches at EVERY node, which makes for a beautiful overall bush, but goddamm is it going to take awhile to trim up :frown:

Any suggestions on attacking this bitch?







When it comes to trimming, how much of the trichome covered leafs do you leave on? Do you just cut it off and use it for hash?


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: NightGrower]
    #337740 - 12/29/09 12:31 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I'm not too surprised to see this thread from you Harry. I seem to recall looking at some of your recent harvest pictures and noting that some of them looked like a real bitch to trim.

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: NightGrower]
    #337742 - 12/29/09 01:10 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Look at all the fuckin branches and leaves! This weed branches at EVERY node, which makes for a beautiful overall bush, but goddamm is it going to take awhile to trim up :frown:

Any suggestions on attacking this bitch?







When it comes to trimming, how much of the trichome covered leafs do you leave on? Do you just cut it off and use it for hash?





well check it out, that's a before and after shot of the same bud. you tell me if you think I'm leaving too much or not enough sugar leafs on it. :lol:
I do plan on making loads of tasty hash though :thumbup:


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #337749 - 12/29/09 03:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i would personally take a bit more off, but i'm a perfectionist. really though, they look pretty damn good to me.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #337779 - 12/29/09 09:50 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Harry_Ba11sach said:
Look at all the fuckin branches and leaves! This weed branches at EVERY node, which makes for a beautiful overall bush, but goddamm is it going to take awhile to trim up :frown:

Any suggestions on attacking this bitch?







When it comes to trimming, how much of the trichome covered leafs do you leave on? Do you just cut it off and use it for hash?





well check it out, that's a before and after shot of the same bud. you tell me if you think I'm leaving too much or not enough sugar leafs on it. :lol:
I do plan on making loads of tasty hash though :thumbup:





The after shot looks great, I only see crystals galore!
As for the rest of it.... you gotta make the hash and let us know how good it is, qualities and taste, etc.

Spark it, light it, vape it, enjoy!


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: NightGrower]
    #337831 - 12/29/09 01:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Patience! 

It usually takes me about 8 hours to trim 4oz.

With that said I also trim off EVERY leaf possible...  It really makes a big difference in bag appeal and how smooth the smoke is when cured.

Less leaves = Smoother smoke

I usually cut any fan that has a leaf stem long enough for me to get the scissor tips into the buds to snip them off out of view from the outside of the nugget.  If that made any sense.  I cut them off below flush with the surface so there is less stem material in the finished product.  It all goes to hash anyway right!?  Personally I like my buds to be leaf free.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Inverted]
    #337856 - 12/29/09 02:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

but look at that strain.... if I remove every leaf there won't be anything left to smoke!


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #337862 - 12/29/09 02:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Unfortunately that's how many of the plant's I have grown have come out.  The bud will be great, you just won't get the yields you thought.  It happens all the time.  Not that many strains have really high Calyx to Leaf ratios.  Check this bagseed, it's got the same issue.




I ended up keeping a sack of just the sugar trim and smoking it while the nugs cured.  It got me stoned as fuck, just a liiiitle harsh.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #338044 - 12/29/09 08:57 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Supplies you need to get decent hash, without bubble bags.
1. Mixing bowl (bigger the better)
2. panty hose (get a couple packs there pretty cheap)
3. Mirror
4. dried trim
5. razor blade
6. sullofane from cigarette pack
Now what we do here is put your shake preferably right out of the freezer, pack as much in the mixing bowl as possible(leave enough room for shake to shake) , now we slip the panty hose over the mixing bowl. Now we turn the bowl upside down and shake repeatedly over you mirror for 2-3 minutes per full mixing bowl. Now that we have done this you take your razor blade and scrape the resin glands from the mirror, and put this matter in your sullofane, now just repeat until you are satisfied with the amount you have, now all thats left to do is press it with your fingers. The heat alone from your fingers should be enough to work it together. Now I am not saying this is going to make some bomb hash or anything but this shit will put you out on yor ass. This is what I usually do with my leftover trim, So if you dont like this method try a different one this is just one that I can use and get pretty good quality hash with for cheap.

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: blueberry D]
    #338066 - 12/29/09 09:39 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

yay! thank you!


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: blueberry D]
    #338069 - 12/29/09 09:41 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

would you mind posting a picture of hash made with this method? sounds easy enough but I'd like to see how it comes out


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #338070 - 12/29/09 09:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Pantyhose works in a pinch, you just have to be careful using it.  It tends to rip pretty easily if you're not paying attention or you stretch it too taut.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #338071 - 12/29/09 09:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I wonder if you could use it in a similar method to bubble bags where you grind up the weed with ice water and then filter the water through the panty hose...


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #338072 - 12/29/09 09:44 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

You'd need something heavy for the work bag though.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #338074 - 12/29/09 09:46 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

what about a 5-gallon button and then you just pour it out through panty hose?


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #338084 - 12/29/09 09:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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what about a 5-gallon button and then you just pour it out through panty hose?




Do you mean Bucket?

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Inverted]
    #338092 - 12/29/09 10:23 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think the glands would go right through that shit, but maybe not.  depends on the um count.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #338099 - 12/29/09 10:43 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Sorry but no pics but the water thing don't work to well, like coda said panty hose rips very easily but they are cheap. I do get a decent amount can't say that I have weighed it to get exact ratios or whatever but i'm telling you very cheap with pretty good quality, and if you really wanna spice it up a bit more which I have also tried is to make honey oil and mix it with your leftover resin glands that are on your mirror or in the sullofane, and you get a bad ass smoke that sends you to space for hours. If anyone tries this tell me what you guys think Hope I helped a few peeps out here with this.

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Inverted]
    #338131 - 12/30/09 02:32 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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what about a 5-gallon button and then you just pour it out through panty hose?




Do you mean Bucket?

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lol uhhh....no? I totally meant button........ you've never seen a 5-gallon button before? what are you, some kinda nahtzi*?

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Harry_Ba11sach]
    #338258 - 12/30/09 04:55 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

actually, that would be Nazzy in IB speak :wink: 

Honestly I wouldn't bother with trying to use panty hose as a bubble bag substitute.  Seems like the water would stretch the mesh of the panty hose too much, and the weight of the water itself may be enough to tear it.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: coda]
    #338279 - 12/30/09 05:31 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I thought the same thing.

Maybe if you have no other choice you may try doubling up?  Or say using small containers such as a mason jar and doing multiple smaller runs...

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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Inverted]
    #338280 - 12/30/09 05:58 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i may try this with a small amount of the trim i have. i asked a friend of mine if he knew anyone who had a set of bubble bags that i could borrow and he said he'd ask some people. hopefully he can find someone who does because that would make it so much easier.


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #338290 - 12/30/09 06:50 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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i may try this with a small amount of the trim i have. i asked a friend of mine if he knew anyone who had a set of bubble bags that i could borrow and he said he'd ask some people. hopefully he can find someone who does because that would make it so much easier.




You have probably seen this but if that falls through...


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Re: Most annoying weed to manicure [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #338300 - 12/30/09 07:32 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

ohh, nice! i hadn't seen your reply. that sounds like a wonderful idea.


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