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Invisibletsollost
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temperature advice
    #202161 - 03/03/09 03:42 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

what do you guys usually set your vapes at? i've found a good spot but i'm just trying to get some other opinions. so what's the optimal temp


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Re: temperature advice [Re: tsollost]
    #202181 - 03/03/09 10:29 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

420 degrees


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Re: temperature advice [Re: Hefe]
    #202184 - 03/03/09 10:38 AM (7 years, 9 months ago)

180-200°C (356-392°F) is the most effective range for cannabis according to:
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Evaluation of a Vaporizing Device (Volcano Vaporizer) for the Pulmonary Administration of Tetrahydrocannabinol. By A. HAZEKAMP, R. RUHAAK, et.al. JOURNAL OF PHARMACEUTICAL SCIENCES, VOL. 95, NO. 6, JUNE 2006




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Re: temperature advice [Re: tsollost]
    #312031 - 11/07/09 10:48 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

I've heard it varies from strain to strain, ie. indicas are best a little hotter and sativas a little cooler or something like that.

In general, I start a bowl in my volcano at 368F and I move up a couple degrees after every balloon until the bowl is gone at 380F or so.


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Re: temperature advice [Re: tsollost]
    #312060 - 11/07/09 11:58 PM (7 years, 30 days ago)

There's not really a simple answer to your question.

Optimal temperature for YOU depends on what kind of high you want (more sativa heady or indica stone), what kind and quality herb you have, how efficient your vape is, the moisture content of the herb...


What vaporizer do you have?
What quality herb do you normally vape?


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Re: temperature advice [Re: Fox]
    #312066 - 11/08/09 12:05 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

I tend to agree, Fox, except I'm not so sure about temperature dictating whether the high is more indica- or sativa-like, wouldn't that just depend on the strain?


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Re: temperature advice [Re: nick-onelove]
    #312068 - 11/08/09 12:13 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Yes you're correct it does depend on the strain.  But there's a but...

THC has a lower boiling/vaporization point than the other cannabinoids, CBD.. CBN....

If you have say a 50/50 hybrid and would like a more sativa high, you set the temps low in hopes of only vaporizing the THC and very little of the other compounds.  If you want a more indica stone you crank up the temps to vaporize more CBN and CBD which account for the sedative effects of an indica.


Try and find a 50/50 hybrid and do some experiments with temp ranges.  Once you perfect the art you can choose what kind of high you want. 

Keep in mind quality of herb plays a big role in getting this down.  The higher the quality, the easier it is to find the right temps and know where to set it to achieve the high you're looking for.


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Re: temperature advice [Re: Fox]
    #312071 - 11/08/09 12:20 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

******as you can see below, the temp ranges are very close together and sometimes overlap each other.  It takes practice to get it down and it helps if you know the genetics or the dominant traits of the herb you'll be vaporizing.*****




Phytocannabinoids, their boiling points, and properties

Δ-9-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)
Boiling point: 157*C / 314.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic

cannabidiol (CBD)
Boiling point: 160-180*C / 320-356 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic

Cannabinol (CBN)
Boiling point: 185*C / 365 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Oxidation, breakdown, product, Sedative, Antibiotic

cannabichromene (CBC)
Boiling point: 220*C / 428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

Δ-8-tetrahydrocannabinol (Δ-8-THC)
Boiling point: 175-178*C / 347-352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Resembles Δ-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic

tetrahydrocannabivarin (THCV)
Boiling point: < 220*C / <428 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic, Euphoriant





Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, and properties

β-myrcene
Boiling point: 166-168*C / 330.8-334.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Analgesic. Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antimutagenic

β-caryophyllene
Boiling point: 119*C / 246.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Cytoprotective (gastric mucosa), Antimalarial

d-limonene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Cannabinoid agonist?, Immune potentiator, Antidepressant, Antimutagenic

linalool
Boiling point: 198*C / 388.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antidepressant, Anxiolytic, Immune potentiator

pulegone
Boiling point: 224*C / 435.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Memory booster?, AChE inhibitor, Sedative, Antipyretic

1,8-cineole (eucalyptol)
Boiling point: 176*C / 348.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor, Increases cerebral, blood flow, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antiviral, Antiinflammatory, Antinociceptive

α-pinene
Boiling point: 156*C / 312.8 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, Bronchodilator, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antineoplastic, AChE inhibitor

α-terpineol
Boiling point: 217-218*C / 422.6-424.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Sedative, Antibiotic, AChE inhibitor, Antioxidant, Antimalarial

terpineol-4-ol
Boiling point: 209*C / 408.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: AChE inhibitor. Antibiotic

p-cymene
Boiling point: 177*C / 350.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antibiotic, Anticandidal, AChE inhibitor

borneol
Boiling point: 210*C / 410 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antibiotic, Δ-3-carene 0.004% 168 Antiinflammatory

Δ-3-carene
Boiling point: 168*C / 334.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory





Flavonoid and phytosterol components, their boiling points, and properties

apigenin
Boiling point: 178*C / 352.4 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Anxiolytic, Antiinflammatory, Estrogenic

quercetin
Boiling point: 250*C / 482 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antioxidant, Antimutagenic, Antiviral, Antineoplastic

cannflavin A
Boiling point: 182*C / 359.6 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: COX inhibitor, LO inhibitor

β-sitosterol
Boiling point: 134*C / 273.2 degree Fahrenheit
Properties: Antiinflammatory, 5-α-reductase, inhibitor


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Re: temperature advice [Re: Fox]
    #312073 - 11/08/09 12:26 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Interesting, great info Fox, it makes sense I just never really put it together.


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Re: temperature advice [Re: nick-onelove]
    #312077 - 11/08/09 12:32 AM (7 years, 30 days ago)

Yeah I stumbled upon it when I was trying to figure out how to work my vape.

Used the same herb, one day the temp was too low and it was just an amazing wake 'n bake.. I cleaned the house, worked on my van, wrote some music...  however the herb was still slightly green and I wanted it to be crispy brown so the next day I cranked up the temp and well... lets just say I ate everything in sight and didn't move a muscle for 4 hours then had a nice few hour nap.

I looked up the boiling points for the different compounds and WHALAH!  after some practice I was choosing my high. 

pretty nifty.


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