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 Stoneth
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 Dead mans grow room. 
#156149 - 12/05/08 03:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Here it goes first joural
Curently is veg. under a 250 MH.
Running at a 3 on and 1 off
Room size is 3 by 4 by 7 tall.
Just realizing they are different but off same plant. Seeds where off same plant not clones.
One occulating fan on low speed.
Ventulation 84 cfms.
Feeding by dip when light is on. At 1 gph.
Using flora nova nutrent mix.
Im going into my 4th week. Here are pics up to date.http:// http:// http:// http:// http://
They are same age down to cracking. Seeds came from same mother dont know why theyre so different help if u can and Ill update weekly if Im able. Thats all for now I think.
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Dr. Penguin
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#156213 - 12/05/08 05:17 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Seeds from the same mother are as different from one another as a human family. Genetics are variable generation to generation. The only way to get very uniform plants is to clone or, to a lesser degree, have true breeding strains.
Your plants look great. I hope to see more soon! 
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#160575 - 12/11/08 01:09 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Just updating Ive just learned of the addives I shouldve been using weeks ago. Also got my hands on a chart to show me when to add what. Another addive I was recommended was called SUPER thrive and it seems to have given new life to the smaller plant cant wait to see.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#160676 - 12/11/08 05:58 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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What exactly did you add? I am also using the floranova and it seems to do fine. I am using it by itself. Also, what chart are you using? Looks great so far!
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#161047 - 12/12/08 10:51 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Ok heres the chart Ive gotin my hands on as follows
floranova floranova floralicious liquid
Grow Bloom Plus Koolbloom
seeding 2.5ml 0 0 0
MildGrowth 5ml 0 0.5ml 0
Growth 10ml 0 1ml 0
Aggressive 12.5ml 0 1ml 0
Growth
Transition 5ml 5ml 1ml 2.5ml
Bloom 0 10ml 1ml 5ml
Aggressive 0 12.5ml 1ml 5-10ml
Bloom
Ripen 0 5ml 1ml 5-10ml
This chart is based on a US gallon.
I have seen a different in the last 3days.
Hope this helps u.
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#162258 - 12/13/08 11:24 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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OK Im going into week 5 and big sis is going good, but little sis is super slow and small.
Here are updated pics.   
Now a question for the experenced grower I know that if I cut the fan leaves the limbing will go faster. I plan on taking clones and was wondering if this is a good idea or not. Ive seen many growers who choose not to cut fan leaves unless there were problem with the leaf itself curious. Im leaving them be until I get some advice on this matter. I like the feed back thanks.
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 Yrat
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#162349 - 12/14/08 12:39 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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cutting the fan leaves will not help branching as much as topping or bending the plant over. try bending the top down, pointing towards the ground, and tie it there with some string. it will start branching within a couple days, and you won't lose the top of the plant.
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Yrat]
#162515 - 12/14/08 01:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool by doing this will it stil grow upwards.
Also would I want to do this now or should I wait another month. I have never used this way of growing so I would like to be sure Im not going to hurt the plant.
Ill wait for a reply before starting this thanks.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#162921 - 12/14/08 09:41 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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yes, the plant will continue growing upwards. the new branches will grow upwards, and the top that you bend down will gradually re-orient itself and begin growing up again. by removing the main top from the light source, the plant "thinks" it has been topped, and begins to branch.
i always like to induce this response without actually removing parts of the plant.
it does look a little small to try this now, i would wait at least a couple more weeks.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Yrat]
#163114 - 12/15/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Cool Ill try that in a few weeks then thanks again.
Now does anyone have any ideas about the little sis. It stil refuses to go. Should I just start a new plant or give it more time. It did grow about 1cm and a hole 2small leaves in around 2weeks. But it stil appears super small in conparesion. Just wondering.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#163224 - 12/15/08 07:03 PM (15 years, 4 months ago) |
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Quote:
stoney.69 said:
I know that if I cut the fan leaves the limbing will go faster
don't think so
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: ditc]
#171286 - 12/27/08 11:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well theyre 5 weeks old. Ill be cutting clones in a day or two.
   
Well as u can see theyre doing great.
Little sis has growed 3inches in the last week.
Big sis is offering up 5 maybe 6 clones. I will see in a couple days. It has really filled out in the last week.
Ill update with more pics in a few days.
Happy New Years to all.
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#176947 - 01/07/09 07:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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Damnit shit went all fucked up and both plants are dead.
Two problems caught me with my pants down:
Problem one on the 4th sometime my bulb blew dont know how long they where in the dark.
Problem two Drippers quit working unsure how long.
Ive tried all I know to save them but it is not looking good. The larger of the two seems to be trying to come back. But I feel it wont make it.
My camera is dead so no pics, but the leaves turned white and drawed up like a fist.
The only good news is the 5 clones are coming along well.
Ill update when I know for sure. Peace!!!!
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#176958 - 01/07/09 08:22 PM (15 years, 3 months ago) |
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RIP
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
#194022 - 02/10/09 12:05 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
FurrowedBrow said:
RIP
where da clones at?
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They should teach african engineering at the college level. mcgyver 101
Harry_Ba11sach said:
Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: MFDoom666]
#194092 - 02/10/09 07:25 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
MFDoom666 said:
Quote:
FurrowedBrow said:
RIP
where da clones at?
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: OregonMeds]
#194243 - 02/10/09 05:59 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Damn guys didnt mean to tune u out I forgot no pics for now.
But all 5 clones took root.
I lost 2 due to a small mistake resulting in roots breaking and they did not recover.
As for the three that did they are going great.
Hight is about 16 inches.
width or round is about 24 inches
Im in the third week of flowering and all looks good.
I had to change houses due to things started looking wierd in that neighborhood.
Better safe than sorry right.
Things seem to be on track and in 5 weeks I hope to harvest.
It looks like I may get more than I planned on out of these three.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#196262 - 02/15/09 03:08 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quick question for the more experenced growers.
I'm 4 weeks from flushing the clones and still have all large fan leaves on the plants.
Should I cut these to allow light to reach though easier or leave them to the end of the grow? I have seen pics showing both. I'm just curious as to which is better. They are very bushy looks like alot cola type buds being the limbs passed the top by about 6 to 8 inches. Thanks for any help. Pics in a few days.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#196266 - 02/15/09 03:37 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cutting leaves always seems to stunt growth more then helping anything. What I always do is just tie down the big leaves to get them out of the way if absolutely necessary.
Cutting just a few big leaves shouldnt hurt it that bad, but if you go crazy hackin at them then you will stunt them. I never cut leaves off, unless in very low numbers.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: OregonMeds]
#196278 - 02/15/09 05:04 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Cool I'll try to tie back the leaves then. This will not be easy to do but without pics I don't know how to explain. These by far are the best bushs I've ever grown. So dense you can't see the top from the bottom or the other way around. Thanks for the info.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#197131 - 02/18/09 07:32 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I've seen where they cut the big fingers in half, you still keep leaf function and your buds get more light, if you trim 10% of leaves per day, till you trimmed 50% of them, then that should help a lot.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: The_Centre]
#197157 - 02/18/09 11:35 AM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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If you must trim leaves (which I do not recommend) trim them in one shot. If you cut small bits off the leaves every day the plant will try to repair the damage thus wasting energy.
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#197172 - 02/18/09 12:32 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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I'm not trimming at this point.
I went with tieing and pulling the limbs down and out.
This seems to be working the light back down into the plant.
They are responding well.
I can't wait to see just how much bud I will get.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#197203 - 02/18/09 02:57 PM (15 years, 2 months ago) |
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Quote:
stoney.69 said:
I'm not trimming at this point.
I went with tieing and pulling the limbs down and out.
This seems to be working the light back down into the plant.
They are responding well.
I can't wait to see just how much bud I will get.
Excellent choice bud! You wont regret it 
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#203113 - 03/04/09 07:49 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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OK guys it's their 6 week of flowering.
I think things are going good.
I'll let you tell me.
    
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#203144 - 03/04/09 09:22 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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i love the dark color of those leaves
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 Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#203160 - 03/04/09 10:04 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Sweet
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#203240 - 03/05/09 08:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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I will rarely cut off my large fan leaves when they are blocking the light from reaching other bigger colas. Otherwise, like Oregon said, I think it causes more harm than good.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#203272 - 03/05/09 11:17 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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lookin good bro! those are the from the 3 cuts?
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Chapter 4]
#203400 - 03/05/09 04:46 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Yeah man they are the three clones that made it through the booboos.
Thanks to everyone as well.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Stoneth]
#203578 - 03/06/09 07:46 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Looking a LOT better bud! Excellent come back 
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Stoneth
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 Re: Dead mans grow room.Update drying time! [Re: Stoneth]
#206572 - 03/17/09 10:20 PM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Today I cut and hung the little ladies, triming the fan leaves off of course.
Wet at this point I have 5 lbs of fans drying. Off all three plants.
The smallest plant is about 2 lbs.
Then one at 5 lbs.
And the big girl is 8.5 lbs.
These are wet and still in the pot.
Sorry no pics but my camera is with my little one at her Grandmothers.
I will take pics of the finsh product when it drys in about 10 to 14 days.
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Re: Dead mans grow room.Update drying time! [Re: Stoneth]
#206647 - 03/18/09 11:00 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
stoney.69 said:
Sorry no pics but my camera is with my little one at her Grandmothers.
 Pics or it didn't happen! lol
I want pics dammit! Keep us posted man.
EG
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Yrat]
#206649 - 03/18/09 11:01 AM (15 years, 1 month ago) |
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Quote:
Yrat said:
i love the dark color of those leaves
Looks like too much nitrogen to me. Sorry for the double post btw.
EG
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room.Update drying time! [Re: Stoneth]
#209655 - 03/28/09 05:32 PM (15 years, 30 days ago) |
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I have been trimming up the buds today 5 quarts jars full, and still more to go. I had to take a break so I through I would share these pics with you guys. Still a little leafy I know but will work for me.
  
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Re: Dead mans grow room.Update drying time! [Re: Stoneth]
#209930 - 03/29/09 12:07 PM (15 years, 30 days ago) |
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Very nice! Do you have your final yield yet?
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room.Update drying time! [Re: Dr. Penguin]
#210123 - 03/29/09 08:04 PM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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Not yet man. It's still curling and all. If I was to guess somewhere around 6 to 7 ozs maybe. Not as much as I hoped, but considering I'm still learning and all that's cool. I think I may have done better with shorter clones when floweriing began really.
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: ethnoguy]
#210354 - 03/30/09 08:50 AM (15 years, 29 days ago) |
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Quote:
ethnoguy said:
Quote:
Yrat said:
i love the dark color of those leaves
Looks like too much nitrogen to me. Sorry for the double post btw.
EG
i would consider too much nitrogen to be burning the plants
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: Yrat]
#210553 - 03/30/09 08:27 PM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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Thats true, but when things are getting that green you get warned by the plants. Burning is not far behind IME.
EG
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Re: Dead mans grow room. [Re: ethnoguy]
#210612 - 03/31/09 07:46 AM (15 years, 28 days ago) |
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definitely agree.
great green color, but don't go over the edge 
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"There are a thousand hacking at the branches of evil
to one who is striking at the root"
~ Henry D. Thoreau
Strike The Root
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Re: Dead mans grow room.Update drying time! [Re: Stoneth]
#280437 - 09/14/09 10:43 PM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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Stonefuck what was your final yield on this? Its been in my favorites for like an entire year and I've been meaning to ask this for awhile.
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Stoneth
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Re: Dead mans grow room.Update drying time! [Re: mhbound]
#280593 - 09/15/09 11:15 AM (14 years, 7 months ago) |
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It was just over 240 grams man.
There's a new grow in the works now.
Waiting on seeds and new light atm tho.
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