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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #168764 - 12/24/08 04:38 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Hopefully the light wont be too expensive then or it might not be worth it. I want something that will give me a far yield. How much dry weight do you personally get off of each plant, just an estimate


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: CookieMonster]
    #168857 - 12/24/08 07:16 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Hopefully the light wont be too expensive then or it might not be worth it. I want something that will give me a far yield. How much dry weight do you personally get off of each plant, just an estimate




this time probably not much, they are small.  Last grow-op was outside, which is unfair as a result of inside.... but personally i hope for at least an 1/2 oz each, these babies are small; except one is stretching quite a bit and i topped one so the underbranches would come up and bush out a bit.


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #172097 - 12/29/08 02:24 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

hows about an update Mr. T0ad?  How those ladies lookin?


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #172357 - 12/29/08 07:49 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Hey man glad to see your back.  your plants look great btw!

So, an update is due I suppose.

This week has been a challenging, and very argumentatively the most annoying week that I have had.  First, it starts like this...

So i go fishing, right, and I assume that everything is gonna be OK while I'm smoking joints out in lake kissimmee bass fishing, right, and so here I am enjoying my time when my girlfriend calls me.  Mind you, its about 11pm @ night and i've got a submersible lantern in the water & am enjoying myself and the conversation goes as follows:

"Hello?"

"Hey honey somethings wrong with your light"

"What are you talking about?"

"Your light is still on"

"Shit WTF, is the timer on?"

"Yeah"

"Whats the dial say"

"3pm"

"It's fucking eleven!!"

"Alex must have messed with it"

"ALEX?!"

"Yeah, i was watching him"

")%@#($&@)#(%&*@#()*%@)#%"

and the rest is unnecessary.

The idea here is that my old lady was watching her retarded brother Alex.  Somehow, he was playing in the room (which this is a closet grow, mind you) and he must have somehow turned & played with the timer dial.
After having her fix it and banned him forever from our room with my mighty power and since I wear the pants thats how it goes. . .  So, undoubtably, i noticed delayed growth in one of my females, I believe she became stressed from the extra light and then not having a standard 12hour dark period.  The other plant seems to suffer still from not being rooted into the tub, this has come as a disappointment, and I think it is coming time to change the tub again.  There has become a smell to the nutrients, and I am sure the plants could use a refresher at this point.  I have already sinced added pH balanced water (2 gals) to drop the EC content a bit and the plants have reacted positively to that also.  They have since perked up a bit; one plant is becoming a shrub while the other is very sativa like in growth and is exhibiting a lot of floral noding.  Very happy, will probably clone her over the other.  The other had seen too much stress, I worry for its quality but we'll see how that goes. :smile:




and the many tops, and bushing out from middle.


Those were from tonight, 

Below is from christmas day.




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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #172402 - 12/29/08 08:54 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

Looking sexy!  Hopefully they weren't too stressed out.  So was the light cycle just fucked up or was there light 24/7 for a few days?


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #172448 - 12/29/08 10:24 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

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Looking sexy!  Hopefully they weren't too stressed out.  So was the light cycle just fucked up or was there light 24/7 for a few days?




light cycle got screwed up and one plant really had delayed and stunted growth patterns, i wish that it would stretch a bit with the red light but its a no go.  The other one is stretching nicely


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #172729 - 12/30/08 09:59 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

banned him from the room. permaban? :lol:

hopefully all the plans will be alright. How long until they start flowering? Or have they already started?


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: CookieMonster]
    #174286 - 01/02/09 09:24 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

they have already started pre-flowering, and are in actvie 12/12 phase so flowering period. 

i have had some issues as of late, some nasty signs of deficiencies.  I cannot decide whether P or K, and I question whether its just salt buildup.  The nutrient solution has begun to have an overpowering smell - I am changing it today and having it a lighter concentration of nutrients, i think this is where i went wrong.  The plant shows signs of root rot, which can be related to toxic-salt (high EC) and the overly high pH can be attributed similarly i think, or at least the battle i have had with it. 

I am definately gonna bend over that tall one. . .

Curling tips of leaves downward or upward is usually a sign of overfertilization?  The last two days i have top-fed pH balanced water to rid of any excess salts built up in the cups to see if anything had gotten locked out or what

the fan leaves have turned yellow w/ dark brown/black splotches and necrotic patches on some.  I have ripped them off to help w/ transpiration.  Any ideas?

starting w/ the oldest ones first, and the newer growth on top seems to have a brighter inner color of the leaves, signs of a deficiency of sorts. What, i dont know as I tihnk i have covered all the nutes w/ my selection so i start to think about salt buildup at this point, nute lock out. something to that effect


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #174336 - 01/02/09 11:20 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

i just foliar fed a weak tiger-bloom nutrient solution.  Hoping this will stop any P def I may have, K i have heard is not suggested to supplement that way.  I've come to a decision on how I am going to change my nutrients.  I will keep the bath (the tub) w/ only Tiger bloom & I will feed top GH omni certified organic fish oil once or twice a week for K supplement + other things.  I may purchase a MagiCal bottle just in case...


im gonna flip the plants around too, so that the opposite sides of the plant now will recieve light. . . notice in the pictures how the tallest is always on the riight? well, it'll be on the left now. 

I have seen the excess salt that this stuff can lead on the old tub that didnt rinse out.  I took some tylex and a shower-bath-soap-spungy-thing and cleaned the tub and rinsed it well.... the preperations are underway


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #174417 - 01/02/09 04:56 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

so now, I am waiting for the old tub to finish draining only half way there. . . the plants are now sitting in the tub, flipped over as i stated before & I noticed on the taller plant (whose roots never grew into the tub) was not close to the geolite on the bottom of the cup and so as it was somewhat dried up i pushed it down the cup as far and as gently as I could, and now it sits much deeper.  Watering it on top will be easier and tis will help soak it and get the root to grow down. 

I kept the concentration somewhat mild.  I wanted the plants to get a chance to get a lot of water and then the chemicals involved, I think this will help keep the EC low.  if there becomes deficiencies, i will add more nutrient...

the pH a steady 6.0; I am looking for improvements.  The old tub looked and had a very uncooperative smell; i will take a picture and post it. 

when I get a little but of cash I am gonna get the nozzles to put a submersible pump.  I think that would have stopped the problem I had with the other tank.  Looking at it, I think the concentration I used was too strong, or that I should not use certain nutrients a certain way.  My pH was always extremely high coming home from work; and I adjusted daily.  Water I adjusted in a gallon is still 6.0 pH a week later - so there had to be an overabundance of nutrient which caused a high EC which burnt the hell out of my plant, thats what I believe is what happened.

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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #177257 - 01/08/09 12:05 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

OK.

Plants are suffering big time, though today I had finally got the cash to purchase GH FloraMicro, more ph Down, & DNF 0-50-30 --- . . . I know the plants will love this stuff a lot, and w/ the micro it should whack out any nutrient deficiencies i have right now out of the ball park. 

I am embarassed to post photos, this is not my normal quality grow, so once the plants recover I will show pictures.



The tall sativa like plant has MANY MANY flowering budsites.  They are filling in with thick pistils & beginning to form calyxes.  I can't wait for them to swell up the next month or so.

My bushy topped plant has begun to stretch its colas out and the budsites are appearing on that plant as well, with this nutrient getup, it should really kick in much faster, esp w/ the DNF bloom stuff.  No distinct smell just yet. :smile:

Waiting for a few days to pass on so I can see the change in the plants, i am desiring to see a much more positive change.    the fan leaves have mostly all yellowed up and shriveled, and now the new growth exhibits magnesium deficiencies which from what I understand is often common indoors.

Wish me luck, i haven't had much recently. lol


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #177432 - 01/08/09 03:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)




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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #177879 - 01/09/09 01:25 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

No need to be embarrassed, your plants aren't looking too bad. Now that you have the new ferts and Ph solutions are you seeing any change?


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: Dr. Penguin]
    #178462 - 01/09/09 10:47 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

giving a week.  One has shown improvement def in growth within a day;

those pictures are old in comparison.  My plant no longer appears like so, it seems much more nude now.


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #178643 - 01/10/09 01:58 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

the one who had been improving is still doing very well.  The leaves had begun to become straight & the budding sites are developing well.  It too is showing small MG deficiencies.  adding epsom salt today to supplement, and i wonder if the other plant is suffering from severe MG deficiency. 

The tips of the leaves are burnt; and some have curled upwards into a tiny compact ball shape; this is definately magnesium.  Also, according to the marijuana bible by jorge cervantes mg def can in severe cases cause yellowing & dying of leaves from bottom to top.


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #178657 - 01/10/09 04:03 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

This is what happen in my last grow.

Why add Epsom salt and how do you apply it?


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: KaptKid]
    #178878 - 01/10/09 09:14 PM (10 years, 6 months ago)

epsom salt is magnesium sulfate, it is one of the most simplest forms it omes in, cheap & effective, only downside i think would be if it made your PPMs shoot and sky rocket up, but I had found a small (decent) amt for a foliar spray of MAGICAL by technaflora from a sample bottle i thought i threw away & used that for hte mean time, but im adding epsom salt to the reservoir tomorrow.


you can mix it w/ water I have read 2tblspoons per gallon, but i am going to do 5 for my 15g reservoir, so 1tbspn for every 3 gallons since there is already a minute amount of magnesium from the TIger Bloom that I had been using, i guess it was not enough for the plants growth.


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #179271 - 01/11/09 11:09 AM (10 years, 6 months ago)

So the plant that is recovering is showing even more signs of recovery - the leaves on the budsights have straightened out for the most part, no droopiness!  His plant roots have re-thickened up.  Previously they had rotted a bit, but they have rebirthed themselves and are lookings nice.

the other plant, is near death. 

I look back and notice that the plant that is near death had not ever been able to grow a root system into the water below, i question and wonder if this caused a congested root issue with the plant and whether the plant has any chances or not of surviving.  still keeping a good 1 day feed 1 day water 1 day dry regiment which has worked for my plants before




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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: t0ad]
    #187522 - 01/22/09 11:11 PM (10 years, 5 months ago)

I'm curious to see how those buds are developing!  Sorry about the deceased plant.  RIP


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Re: t0ad's adventure in gardening... a grow journal. [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #189156 - 01/25/09 12:25 AM (10 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm curious to see how those buds are developing!  Sorry about the deceased plant.  RIP




yeah im mad due for an update.

ill get some budshots later; i have been sooooo busy recently i hadnt even checked up on the girl.


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